Dame asks for trade (And there it is)

[BassPlaya]

Time for a dick pic........

 

[Strenuus]

any reason to post a Malika Andrews video..
... is a good reason

Lol it wasn't directed at you, just my apathy towards the entire situation


I'm enjoying it before the inevitable shit trade we will most likely get back lol

 

[BIG Q]

Lol it wasn't directed at you, just my apathy towards the entire situation


I'm enjoying it before the inevitable shit trade we will most likely get back lol

I am the eternal pessimist myself and expect everything to cave and Portland is hosting a shit show until the trade deadline. I take solace knowing we can do the Ayton trade outside of a Dame trade, so when judging the inevitable trade, I will back Phoenix out and see what we really get for Lillard sans Phoenix.

 

[Mediocre Man]

"Several GM's" expect a Dame Trade within 1 week

Shocking

 

[Mediocre Man]

Stuff.
Was told I shouldn’t post useless stuff, but stuff nonetheless

 

[BIG Q]

Stuff.
Was told I shouldn’t post useless stuff, but stuff nonetheless

Post what you want. I have tough enough skin to have never blocked anyone here. Opinions and assholes, everyone here has both. If you have insight on the Blazers, I for one want to read it.

 

[Natebishop3]

Good old Barry Jackson is always there for a laugh.

 

[TBpup]

Good old Barry Jackson is always there for a laugh.

Maybe Barry thinks if he repeats it for long enough, more people will believe it is true regardless of facts.

"refuse"....what a joke.

 

[inconceivable]

Good old Barry Jackson is always there for a laugh.

They want us to give them arguably best player in franchise history coming off his best statistical year who is under contract for the remainder of his high performance years for their 3rd/4th best player (one we don't want or need) plus scraps.

People keep bringing Dame's contract and emphasize how much he will be making at age 35-36 to make it negative when you should really look at how much he is paid for the next 4 seasons. He can be excellent to very good in that span.

Players been getting 50mil/year left and right these days, making you raise your eyebrow.

 

[Natebishop3]

Have to believe that Toronto is a legit threat because of all the anti-Toronto smoke coming from Dame's mooks and the Heat fanbois.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I also believe the Blazers are undervaluing Herro and overvaluing OG

 

[Natebishop3]

I also believe the Blazers are undervaluing Herro and overvaluing OG

I think the entire league overvalues OG, and that's why I want him.

 

[Graduate32]

Well, if that anonymous scout wants to get his team to throw in some actually quality assets in exchange from Herro, I'd welcome it, but it doesn't seem like that offer has presented itself.

 

[Natebishop3]

Well, if that anonymous scout wants to get his team to throw in some actually quality assets in exchange from Herro, I'd welcome it, but it doesn't seem like that offer has presented itself.

The anonymous scout most likely works for the Heat

 

[Sheldon Shape]

Good old Barry Jackson is always there for a laugh.

Yeah, because Herro doesn't have injury issues at all...

 

[inconceivable]

I also believe the Blazers are undervaluing Herro and overvaluing OG

Herro is undervalued because he is not a position we need. A Herro-level wing would be valuable. Yes, OG is overrated. Can be a piece to help an already established team but I don't think he should healdine a Dame trade.

 

[sheed30]

Well, if that anonymous scout wants to get his team to throw in some actually quality assets in exchange from Herro, I'd welcome it, but it doesn't seem like that offer has presented itself.

lol the scout is probably Udonis Haslem lmao

 

[Kano John]

Barry Who?

 

[Graduate32]

I also believe the Blazers are undervaluing Herro and overvaluing OG

In a vacuum, I think you could be right. That said, if no one is giving substantial assets for Herro now, the Blazers can't afford to take on Herro and figure it out later. We'd have at least one too many guard mouths to feed, and if we weren't killing Herro's value, we'd be killing whatever value Ant has, or we'd be stifling Scoot and/or Shaedon.

So either Miami finds that "real" Herro value now that actually gives the Blazers something significant or the Blazers continue to be right in prioritizing an asset like OG, even on his expiring contract.

Honestly, I think Barry and Miami have the stronger case (though I don't necessarily agree myself) in arguing that the Blazers should be valuing Jovic higher than they currently are. I think the Herro case from a Blazers perspective is pretty cut and dry.

 

[sheed30]

I also believe the Blazers are undervaluing Herro and overvaluing OG

Not from what we currently need as a team, OG fits what we need, Herro doesn’t, which makes OG more valuable for us.

The risk is OG can leave after one season

 

[robson]

If that kind of tweets is all Miami have, it does not look good for them.

And: Wasn't Herro injured in last playoffs, when Miami really needed him? Lol

 

[Natebishop3]

 

[Freshtown]

Love it

 

[RonBrewer]

Blazers trade Lillard to Miami unlikely

https://hoopswire.com/blazers-consider-damian-lillard-trade-with-heat-to-be-unlikely/

 

[illmatic99]

How did Dame and Goodwin not see this an outcome when they went scorched earth?

 

[wizenheimer]

How did Dame and Goodwin not see this an outcome when they went scorched earth?

I still am convinced that Goodwin didn't just do that on his own....I think Pat Riley has his fingerprints all over the scorched earth tactic; just like he has his fingerprints all over the Miami bloviators spewing anti-blazer bullshit over the last 3 months

 

[THE HCP]

Sure did... until he decided to napalm every bridge on his way out of town.

I think you’ll survive!

 

[Natebishop3]

https://www.si.com/nba/2023/09/26/nba-mailbag-does-damian-lillard-trade-make-sense-raptors

"So now Toronto is in the mix for Damian Lillard? I like Masai’s [Ujiri] aggressiveness but I don’t see how dealing for Dame makes sense. Do you? —Arnold, Virginia

There’s a lot of smoke in league circles about Blazers-Raptors talks. Toronto’s interest, I believe, is genuine. They have young pieces (O.G. Anunoby, Scottie Barnes), big contracts and enough draft capital to make an enticing offer. And it doesn’t sound like Masai Ujiri & Co. are too worried about Lillard’s publicly expressed desire to play in Miami. Remember, when the deal for Kawhi Leonard went down, Leonard reportedly didn’t want any part of it. Look how that worked out.

That said, I don’t get it. Logistically it’s extremely challenging. In 2018, when Toronto acquired Leonard, the cost was DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a protected first-round pick. Steep, but manageable (obviously) given what the Raptors had.

To land Lillard, who will make $45 million next season, the Raptors would likely have to include a combination of Anunoby, Chris Boucher and Otto Porter Jr. just to make the numbers work. Toronto likely won’t trade Barnes, and Pascal Siakam (age/contract) probably doesn’t interest the Blazers much. But Portland will certainly want the pot sweetened with a blue-chip prospect (Gradey Dick, a lights-out shooter at Kansas) and multiple first-round draft picks.

Where does that get Toronto? Does a Lillard-Siakam-Barnes trio put the Raptors in the mix in the Eastern Conference? If Barnes takes another step after a sluggish second season, maybe. But it’s iffy, and it doesn’t even take into account Lillard’s interest in being there.

What this could do is motivate Miami. Talks between the Blazers and Heat have reportedly been dormant for some time. And, yes, Miami is certainly among the teams keeping an eye on Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation in Milwaukee. But are the Heat really willing to, ahem, burn another season of Jimmy Butler in the hope that Giannis is available? Or is the threat of Toronto landing Lillard enough for Miami to plus up whatever offer it had on the table?"

 

[blazerkor]

https://www.si.com/nba/2023/09/26/nba-mailbag-does-damian-lillard-trade-make-sense-raptors

"So now Toronto is in the mix for Damian Lillard? I like Masai’s [Ujiri] aggressiveness but I don’t see how dealing for Dame makes sense. Do you? —Arnold, Virginia

There’s a lot of smoke in league circles about Blazers-Raptors talks. Toronto’s interest, I believe, is genuine. They have young pieces (O.G. Anunoby, Scottie Barnes), big contracts and enough draft capital to make an enticing offer. And it doesn’t sound like Masai Ujiri & Co. are too worried about Lillard’s publicly expressed desire to play in Miami. Remember, when the deal for Kawhi Leonard went down, Leonard reportedly didn’t want any part of it. Look how that worked out.

That said, I don’t get it. Logistically it’s extremely challenging. In 2018, when Toronto acquired Leonard, the cost was DeMar DeRozan, Jakob Poeltl and a protected first-round pick. Steep, but manageable (obviously) given what the Raptors had.

To land Lillard, who will make $45 million next season, the Raptors would likely have to include a combination of Anunoby, Chris Boucher and Otto Porter Jr. just to make the numbers work. Toronto likely won’t trade Barnes, and Pascal Siakam (age/contract) probably doesn’t interest the Blazers much. But Portland will certainly want the pot sweetened with a blue-chip prospect (Gradey Dick, a lights-out shooter at Kansas) and multiple first-round draft picks.

Where does that get Toronto? Does a Lillard-Siakam-Barnes trio put the Raptors in the mix in the Eastern Conference? If Barnes takes another step after a sluggish second season, maybe. But it’s iffy, and it doesn’t even take into account Lillard’s interest in being there.

What this could do is motivate Miami. Talks between the Blazers and Heat have reportedly been dormant for some time. And, yes, Miami is certainly among the teams keeping an eye on Giannis Antetokounmpo’s situation in Milwaukee. But are the Heat really willing to, ahem, burn another season of Jimmy Butler in the hope that Giannis is available? Or is the threat of Toronto landing Lillard enough for Miami to plus up whatever offer it had on the table?"

I don't think matching Dame's contract is difficult: OG, Porter, Young, Dick and Precious. That leaves them with Dame, Gary, Barnes, Siakam, Poeltl, Schroder, McDaniels, Boucher, Koloko and two roster spots that they could probably get two good vets at the min with. I don't see a team that is that much better than them in the East. Milwaukee and Boston will be really good but that roster contends. It would definitely be the most talented and balanced roster Dame has ever had.

I think OG logically goes to Indy.

McConnell and Young go with Nurk to Phoenix for Ayton. Phoenix has to send out one of their two players who make 1.9M and aren't recently signed (Goodwin or Wainright).

I don't know for sure what the rest of the compensation for OG would be, I'd like Walker and that would be enough... if they won't give up Walker I think Toppin and two firsts... they have all of their firsts and a second first in this upcoming draft which is the worst out of the Thunder, Clippers, Rockets and Jazz. I would want the better of those two picks in 2024 which will likely be theirs and another unprotected future first.

Ideally for me we end up with Ayton, Walker, Dick and Achiuwa for Dame and Nurk... Porter would get waived. I guess ideally there would even be some picks with that combo of players.

 

[wizenheimer]

I don't think matching Dame's contract is difficult: OG, Porter, Young, Dick and Precious. That leaves them with Dame, Gary, Barnes, Siakam, Poeltl, Schroder, McDaniels, Boucher, Koloko and two roster spots that they could probably get two good vets at the min with. .

I am not sure a 5 for 1 trade this close to training camp is a good idea

for a CBA match, all it would take is OG + Boucher + Young



that way Toronto only has 2 slots to fill rather than 4