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riverman said:
Giannis in a recent interview said this off season he will spend a lot of time in Portland with Dame not just working out but hanging together...get Giannis to fall in love with Portland and see what happens down the road.
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If Giannis wants to do fentanyl then he will absolutely love Portland.

Maybe Giannis enjoys picking up other people’s trash during his time off the court. If so, Portland will surely be an attractive city to him.

Sorry for the Snarky response River… I had to
 
PDXFonz said:
If Giannis wants to do fentanyl then he will absolutely love Portland.

Maybe Giannis enjoys picking up other people’s trash during his time off the court. If so, Portland will surely be an attractive city to him.

Sorry for the Snarky response River… I had to
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Is it really that bad? I've seen Videos from Philadelphia, those people Look like Zombies
 
PDXFonz said:
If Giannis wants to do fentanyl then he will absolutely love Portland.

Maybe Giannis enjoys picking up other people’s trash during his time off the court. If so, Portland will surely be an attractive city to him.

Sorry for the Snarky response River… I had to
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riverman said:
I thought this was an interesting video stating that homelessness is no longer legal in Portland ..pretty thorough breakdown by a Portland native.
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PDXFonz said:
If Giannis wants to do fentanyl then he will absolutely love Portland.

Maybe Giannis enjoys picking up other people’s trash during his time off the court. If so, Portland will surely be an attractive city to him.

Sorry for the Snarky response River… I had to
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Prince died from fentanyl in his mansion in Minnesota....I don't think he got the habit it Portland..check out the video I posted from thee "what's going on in Portland" thread
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Let's keep the politics, drugs, etc out of the main forum.
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As big of a Dame fan as I am -- if this is true then shame on Dame but to be fair besides the Blazers thing his marriage was going sideways too so I will give him a little leeway but still not good.
 
Ripcity4life77 said:
As big of a Dame fan as I am -- if this is true then shame on Dame but to be fair besides the Blazers thing his marriage was going sideways too so I will give him a little leeway but still not good.
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Did I miss something?
 
Ed O said:
Sign a massive extension in your 30s. Demand a trade. Don't work out.

Sounds smart.
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Well, the reasoning makes sense. He didn’t want to get hurt and potentially block a trade. But to me, this is a sign of where Dames head was at. How long of a break did he take in the past?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, the reasoning makes sense. He didn’t want to get hurt and potentially block a trade. But to me, this is a sign of where Dames head was at. How long of a break did he take in the past?
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It's hard to know without having more historical info (and specifics) but (a) he's getting paid whether he got traded or not, so he owed the Blazers his best IMO, and (b) as we get older, injuries are more likely and breaking routines in the offseason seems like it's practically begging for injury issues.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Well, the reasoning makes sense. He didn’t want to get hurt and potentially block a trade. But to me, this is a sign of where Dames head was at. How long of a break did he take in the past?
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Ed O's timeline was missing some context:

* Signs max-contract extension
* GM tells him repeatedly that he will build a contender around him
* GM does the opposite of building a contender around him
* Marriage falls apart and the wife he shares 3 children with asks for a divorce
* GM drafts a PG at #3 in the draft and adds another rookie at #23, 4 months after trading Josh Hart
* relationship with F.O. gets ugly and he asks for a trade from the team he hoped to be with for his entire career
* both personal and professional lives are filled with uncertainty, chaos, and distraction
* isn't able to maintain his established off-season conditioning routine

* some fans who have trashed him a ton, find another excuse to trash him some more because of what Doc Rivers said
 
wizenheimer said:
Ed O's timeline was missing some context:

* Signs max-contract extension
* GM tells him repeatedly that he will build a contender around him
* GM does the opposite of building a contender around him
* Marriage falls apart and the wife he shares 3 children with asks for a divorce
* GM drafts a PG at #3 in the draft and adds another rookie at #23, 4 months after trading Josh Hart
* relationship with F.O. gets ugly and he asks for a trade from the team he hoped to be with for his entire career
* both personal and professional lives are filled with uncertainty, chaos, and distraction
* isn't able to maintain his established off-season conditioning routine

* some fans who have trashed him a ton, find another excuse to trash him some more because of what Doc Rivers said
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Predictably, Tarzanheimer comes swinging in on Dame's balls to his defense... Everything is everyone else's fault, obviously.
 
This dumb ass argument about who did who dirty is so fucking tired. Dame demanded a trade and after what our GM said and then did, that was predictable. What most of us didn't know is that Dame's personal life was collapsing at the same time.

With those two things in mind and knowing that the trade itself likely took longer than Dame expected it's not a surprise the dude came into training camp in the worst shape of his career, if that's what happened. It was definitely the most tumultuous off season of the guy's career.

I'm still a Dame fan and I hope this means that if he dedicates this off season to getting better like he has in the past that he'll have a big year with the Bucks and if Giannis is healthy, that they have a chance to get Dame his first ring.
 
blazerkor said:
This dumb ass argument about who did who dirty is so fucking tired. Dame demanded a trade and after what our GM said and then did, that was predictable. What most of us didn't know is that Dame's personal life was collapsing at the same time.

With those two things in mind and knowing that the trade itself likely took longer than Dame expected it's not a surprise the dude came into training camp in the worst shape of his career, if that's what happened. It was definitely the most tumultuous off season of the guy's career.

I'm still a Dame fan and I hope this means that if he dedicates this off season to getting better like he has in the past that he'll have a big year with the Bucks and if Giannis is healthy, that they have a chance to get Dame his first ring.
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I think it's more a matter of @RR7 hitting the nail on the head.......Doc doing Doc and blaming his players for his (and Griffin's) shitty coaching....Dame could have been All World, but that isn't enough to get past Doc's ineptitude and Milwaukee's incredibly thin bench.......
 
wizenheimer said:
Ed O's timeline was missing some context:

* Signs max-contract extension
* GM tells him repeatedly that he will build a contender around him
* GM does the opposite of building a contender around him
* Marriage falls apart and the wife he shares 3 children with asks for a divorce
* GM drafts a PG at #3 in the draft and adds another rookie at #23, 4 months after trading Josh Hart
* relationship with F.O. gets ugly and he asks for a trade from the team he hoped to be with for his entire career
* both personal and professional lives are filled with uncertainty, chaos, and distraction
* isn't able to maintain his established off-season conditioning routine

* some fans who have trashed him a ton, find another excuse to trash him some more because of what Doc Rivers said
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None of the additional context matters to me in terms of as a basketball fan. (As a human? Sure. But as a human it's ridiculous he makes about a thousand times the American per capita income, or about 3,000 times the global per capita income.)

He signed on the line that is dotted and he should have been ready, willing, and able to play for any team that was paying him.

If he was giving money back then it would be a different matter, but I don't think there's any indication that he did that.

I'm not trying to shit on him, but his unwillingness/lack of ability to work out in spite of being physically healthy hurt his performance, hurt his team, and opened him up (IMO) to additional injuries.
 
wizenheimer said:
Ed O's timeline was missing some context:

* Signs max-contract extension
* GM tells him repeatedly that he will build a contender around him
* GM does the opposite of building a contender around him
* Marriage falls apart and the wife he shares 3 children with asks for a divorce
* GM drafts a PG at #3 in the draft and adds another rookie at #23, 4 months after trading Josh Hart
* relationship with F.O. gets ugly and he asks for a trade from the team he hoped to be with for his entire career
* both personal and professional lives are filled with uncertainty, chaos, and distraction
* isn't able to maintain his established off-season conditioning routine

* some fans who have trashed him a ton, find another excuse to trash him some more because of what Doc Rivers said
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Do you know his wife asked for a divorce? I do not know so wondering if that is a fact or conjecture. Was he unable to maintain his established off-season conditioning routine because he went on a continental tour during the NBA Playoffs telling everyone that would listen that Portland had a choice to make, or was it the International tour he was on that might have affected his conditioning routine? You and I argued about him killing his trade value. Never thought he would take the summer off and not work on anything. I am sure divorce is hard, filled with uncertainty, chaos and distractions. But the one thing a player can control is what he can control, his routine. This is not a gotcha. This is a cautionary tale. I am sure Lillard wanted out of Portland as soon as his marriage crumbled, whenever that was. Flight is half of the human response. The other half being fight. He chose his response, Portland obliged, within reason. I hope the best for him and his family, but I can't help but think that Portland dodged an unfortunate bullet. Just wish they had gotten more for Holiday when they traded him to Boston. Portland got robbed.
 
wizenheimer said:
is there anything I said in that post that is inaccurate?
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I know you are not asking me, but possibly? Was it confirmed Lillards wife demanded a divorce? Seriously do not know the answer. If you know this as fact, ok. Don't need you searching for a link. I'm not gonna do it. Not being argumentative. I never heard this part.
 
BIG Q said:
I know you are not asking me, but possibly? Was it confirmed Lillards wife demanded a divorce? Seriously do not know the answer. If you know this as fact, ok. Don't need you searching for a link. I'm not gonna do it. Not being argumentative. I never heard this part.
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I read that it was mutual but that Dame's wife was the one who wanted the marriage to end. She is demanding sole custody of the children

having gone thru a divorce myself, it's not an easy time
 
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