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This may be an unpopular opinion but i think the Knicks have a better Trade package than the Sixers for Lillard if Dame wanted out.

Quickley/Barrett/Toppin > Simmons/Maxey
 
No way Morey trades Simmons for CJ. So thirsty.
No way Morey takes Simmons into the regular season and I very seriously doubt that Dame is traded by then. So, I'll say it again, CJ is the best fit available for what that Sixers team needs. Morey has to know all of this. So I just think we'll see what happens but Simmons will almost surely be somewhere else to start the season and as long as Olshey is willing to pony up CJ and other valuable assets, this is where Simmons should be.
 
No way Morey takes Simmons into the regular season and I very seriously doubt that Dame is traded by then. So, I'll say it again, CJ is the best fit available for what that Sixers team needs. Morey has to know all of this. So I just think we'll see what happens but Simmons will almost surely be somewhere else to start the season and as long as Olshey is willing to pony up CJ and other valuable assets, this is where Simmons should be.
You sound as delusional as Morey.
 
What a piece of junk article, throwing shit out there hoping it will stick. Whats happened with integrity in reporting? of course thats not reporting it gossip for clicks.
It's just some hometown bullshit wishful thinking. Stories like that have always been written in local papers but now national outlets like B/E and The Athletic have writers for every team putting stories out. The columnist showed that it was obviously a Sixers fan piece when he said, "It would be much more reassuring for me to write, 'the moves so far in free agency have made it a lock that Damian Lillard will become a Sixer',"...

Let's just hope that unlike Dumas's bullshit this doesn't get picked up by anybody as news.
 
You sound as delusional as Morey.
In what way was that post delusional? Do you think the Sixers are going to go into the regular season with a player making 33M that won't even talk to them? Do you think there are players available that are a better fit for what the Sixers need than CJ... that they would get extra assets with?

Oh and I also hope you just think Morey only sounds delusional because he's not actually delusional. He's measuring his options, trying to drive Simmons' value back up and biding the small amount of time he does have. Those trade proposals that he supposedly made that got flatly turned down because they were so outlandish were aimed to do nothing more than get something for Simmons at the highest point he can possibly get in between his offers he knew would be turned down and the ones he'd been receiving.
 
I think we should tell Morey and trade for Dame starts with Embiid and Simmons plus 3 1st's. Start the negotiations there. I don't think we trade Dame, but if we do hold out for a kings ransom.
 
I think we should tell Morey and trade for Dame starts with Embiid and Simmons plus 3 1st's. Start the negotiations there. I don't think we trade Dame, but if we do hold out for a kings ransom.
I think Morey-On can eat a D&#K!
 
No way Morey takes Simmons into the regular season and I very seriously doubt that Dame is traded by then. So, I'll say it again, CJ is the best fit available for what that Sixers team needs. Morey has to know all of this. So I just think we'll see what happens but Simmons will almost surely be somewhere else to start the season and as long as Olshey is willing to pony up CJ and other valuable assets, this is where Simmons should be.
Beal is probably a better fit than CJ.
 
In what way was that post delusional? Do you think the Sixers are going to go into the regular season with a player making 33M that won't even talk to them? Do you think there are players available that are a better fit for what the Sixers need than CJ... that they would get extra assets with?

Oh and I also hope you just think Morey only sounds delusional because he's not actually delusional. He's measuring his options, trying to drive Simmons' value back up and biding the small amount of time he does have. Those trade proposals that he supposedly made that got flatly turned down because they were so outlandish were aimed to do nothing more than get something for Simmons at the highest point he can possibly get in between his offers he knew would be turned down and the ones he'd been receiving.

There is something called good faith negotiations tho and I feel like he is shooting himself in the foot more than anything.

Ultimately it may drive the price downwards.

I think they were hoping to get into the season with Simmons so he could show off his new shooting ability but I think that’s out the window.
 
There is something called good faith negotiations tho and I feel like he is shooting himself in the foot more than anything.

Ultimately it may drive the price downwards.

I think they were hoping to get into the season with Simmons so he could show off his new shooting ability but I think that’s out the window.
I agree, I think he is hurting his credibility in terms of what his offers are. At the same time if he just says that he's now open to offers from other GMs he can probably push it a little further now. I think it's an effective mind game if you're willing to give up some control. So he's relinquished control but he's also expanded the universe of what could be asked for... even if that doesn't increase the player's value. I think he's desperate right now to recoup some of what Doc and Embiid destroyed.
 
Beal is probably a better fit than CJ.
Oh, definitely... Beal is the best fit for what they need but Washington doesn't want to trade Beal and Beal just said he's excited about his new teammates and continuing to try and win with his team. So he's even further away from being attainable than Dame... IMO. So CJ is Beal Lite and even if Beal were available, if the Sixers were to try and get Beal for Simmons the they would be the team sending out assets and if they end up taking a deal in which they get CJ for Simmons, they'll be receiving assets along with CJ.

CJ is their best move that will be available in the time constraints that I think they're operating within. So I really do think that's the deal that will happen if Neil is smart enough to part with CJ and some other assets.
 
If Dame requests a trade our best option is to blow up the team and get as many picks as we can. I believe the closest we have been to having enough talent to compete for a championship recently was with Oden Aldridge and Roy. All which we essentially acquired through the draft( I know Aldridge was a draft day trade but that was essentially trading for a number 2 pick) I really hate getting good enough make the first round but then losing giving up our draft picks. Its really our only hope to build a contender. This is all though if Dame firmly wants out though otherwise we try our best to compete now with him. He desperately needs a second star and CJ isn't it.
 
*IF* Dame asks for a trade and Morey puts Embiid on the table instead of Simmons - what say you?

Philly is “open to keeping Simmons” fwiw…
 
Since there’s no improvement to our team. When do you think Dame ask for a trade? Middle of the season or next season?
 
Since there’s no improvement to our team. When do you think Dame ask for a trade? Middle of the season or next season?

Honestly, if I'm Dame and the team made zero actual upgrades this offseason, I'm bailing.
 
Honestly, if I'm Dame and the team made zero actual upgrades this offseason, I'm bailing.
Are you even a Blazers fan? Dame will want to stay here just because we are Portland. And he knows Olshey is doing everything he can to bring a title to our town. He even got over not having valet parking everywhere.
 
Agree that Dame wants to (and has to) stay but Dirk also mentioned that he may would have left the Mavs if he would have see no chance to win a ring. So, I am not always to sure if thinks can develop different from what we think/expect.

but before we trade Dame anywhere I would give away everything else to improve this team and try to make a run with Dame as the leader (and to be honest I also do not see an other worthy option)
 
Honestly, if I'm Dame and the team made zero actual upgrades this offseason, I'm bailing.

Are you even a Blazers fan? Dame will want to stay here just because we are Portland. And he knows Olshey is doing everything he can to bring a title to our town. He even got over not having valet parking everywhere.

If Dame thinks Olshey is doing everything he can (which isn't a very logical conclusion) he might give it the whole season. A few reporters have said that Dame wants to give Chauncey a chance and if that doesn't go well he'll ask out by the deadline. That's what I think makes sense... unless Neil makes a big move and then he might see what we can do in the playoffs. He does want to win a championship and his preference is to win it here but he's not sacrificing winning for this city that he loves.
 
If Dame requests a trade our best option is to blow up the team and get as many picks as we can. I believe the closest we have been to having enough talent to compete for a championship recently was with Oden Aldridge and Roy. All which we essentially acquired through the draft( I know Aldridge was a draft day trade but that was essentially trading for a number 2 pick) I really hate getting good enough make the first round but then losing giving up our draft picks. Its really our only hope to build a contender. This is all though if Dame firmly wants out though otherwise we try our best to compete now with him. He desperately needs a second star and CJ isn't it.
We could do it for picks if we made Dame wait until next off season but we can't do it for picks now. Dame could make any roster in this league a playoff team and then we're just left with our picks and their non lottery picks.

If Dame demands a trade we need to get a package of young studs and draft assets. Nothing less than players who are likely to be good if not great and picks that may be high for a guy getting MVP votes and by that metric is the sixth best player in the league. Then we could cash in CJ for picks and contracts that match and are good or expiring. We could cash in RoCo and Nurk too.

Ideally it would be great to trade Dame for Ingram, Hayes and picks. Then CJ, RoCo and the NOLA picks can go to Philly for Simmons. We could just give Nurk to the highest bidder. The fact is Ant, Nas, Ingram, Simmons and Hayes, DJJ plus picks and whatever we get for Nurk is a great young core to build around. We probably wouldn't miss the playoffs so it wouldn't net us lottery picks but we would have two guys in Simmons and Ingram who can both be all nba players and the rest are really good role players.
 
If Dame thinks Olshey is doing everything he can (which isn't a very logical conclusion) he might give it the whole season. A few reporters have said that Dame wants to give Chauncey a chance and if that doesn't go well he'll ask out by the deadline. That's what I think makes sense... unless Neil makes a big move and then he might see what we can do in the playoffs. He does want to win a championship and his preference is to win it here but he's not sacrificing winning for this city that he loves.

If CJ is still here, Neil didn't do everything he could.
 
I was looking at the 76ers reddit and they all seem to think Lillard is going to be traded there any day. I don't get it?
 
I was looking at the 76ers reddit and they all seem to think Lillard is going to be traded there any day. I don't get it?
They're either delusionally optimistic and fueled by bullshit media or we're in the dark over here. I'm pretty sure it's the first one but if it happened I wouldn't be completely shocked. Dame said make big changes urgently and Neil has said he can't. That probably isn't enough for him to bail but that's only probably.
 
Don't know if this has been posted elsewhere (forgive me if so), but I thought it is at least worth discussion. I wanted to cite the Spike Eskin recent claim in his podcast (The Rights ro Ricky Sanchez) that there has been a ton of chatter about a three-team deal being discussed (Philly-GSW-PDX) around Simmons-Dame-etc.: https://www.rightstorickysanchez.com/podcast/080821.



This seems to be the first instance in which the claims go beyond the standard "Morey/Philly is interested," to the "there has been movement on this front" vibe. I will also say that I have found Spike Eskin to be a generally credible and levelheaded, especially considering that his day job is in sports radio. For instance, he has been a frequent voice on Zach Lowe’s podcast, and Zach doesn’t tend to go for attention-grabbing, hot-take artists.

I have no doubt that he is hearing such things, but he is likely hearing it completely from the Philly side. How reliable are his sources speaking to the Blazers' perspective on this matter is a COMPLETELY different story. The first fifteen minutes or so of the podcast address the Dame-to-Philly "smoke."
 
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