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BonesJones said:
3rd best.. whatever the hell you wanna call it. Doesn't take away from the point which you ignored.
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Do you really think he's third best coming off ruptured Achilles? I'd rather have Capella or Nurkic.
 
BonesJones said:
You and millions of other people. I'm not eatching a national broadcast bro. Just gonna stay tucked away with my Blazers and that's it.
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Same. I'm a Blazers fan for life. The rest of the league can go eat a Costco sized bag of dicks. Not watching one single non-Blazers game.
 
BonesJones said:
You have a gambling issue.
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You would've won the Magic bet last season. Maybe you'll be right about this too. But I really don't think so. Showtime is back in LA. NBA ratings were great in 80s because of Lakers/Celtics. Having star players on big market teams has always been the formula for success in the NBA. That's why they fixed lottery to send Ewing to the Knicks instead of the Kings.
 
I knew the warriors would be a lock for the title before this move. Now if cousins comes back healthy that’s just gonna be insane. I guess my issue with olshey is he hasn’t set us up well for the future for when the warriors crumble apart. It just sucks for dame and really any other all stars during this time who want to win. Nothing you can do about it. It’s just so one sided. I can already see it. Warriors and Boston in the finals next season with the warriors taking it all again. But then they have to figure out what they are doing with Klay and draymond.
 
KingSpeed said:
You would've won the Magic bet last season. Maybe you'll be right about this too. But I really don't think so. Showtime is back in LA. NBA ratings were great in 80s because of Lakers/Celtics. Having star players on big market teams has always been the formula for success in the NBA. That's why they fixed lottery to send Ewing to the Knicks instead of the Kings.
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Yeah, I easily would've. But forum bets aren't productive and aren't worth the hastle and annoyance brought to them. So quit trying to bet all the goddamn time.

You keep referencing the "formula"...

The "formula" has never produced THIS. This is uncharted territory for any sports league.
 
Some media guy posted Boogie is going to the Warriors to rehab.
Might take a little longer for a man of Boogie's size to recover from this ACL injury.
 
BonesJones said:
Yeah, I easily would've. But forum bets aren't productive and aren't worth the hastle and annoyance brought to them. So quit trying to bet all the goddamn time..
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Okay.

If Cousins was really healthy and able to make an impact, I think he would've signed a max contract somewhere. If he's good this year, he won't turn down money to play elsewhere in 2019-20. I think this signing is him admitting that he's not as good as he once was. Reminds me of our Festus Ezeli signing. Cousins' better days are behind him and he just wants a $5.3 million ring.
 
KingSpeed said:
Okay.

If Cousins was really healthy and able to make an impact, I think he would've signed a max contract somewhere. If he's good this year, he won't turn down money to play elsewhere in 2019-20. I think this signing is him admitting that he's not as good as he once was. Reminds me of our Festus Ezeli signing. Cousins' better days are behind him and he just wants a $5.3 million ring.
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You quoted a post from a different conversation than this one, so I'm done.
 
BonesJones said:
Holy crap...
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This is what you said:

The last time the Lakers were good, you didn't have the best C in the NBA signing for $5M to join a team with 4 other all-stars that had won 3 of the past 4 championships.

I don't think I ignored that. I mean, don't you admit that you thought the Warriors will win in 2019 before this signing? Has anything changed?
 
KingSpeed said:
This is what you said:

The last time the Lakers were good, you didn't have the best C in the NBA signing for $5M to join a team with 4 other all-stars that had won 3 of the past 4 championships.

I don't think I ignored that. I mean, don't you admit that you thought the Warriors will win in 2019 before this signing? Has anything changed?
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An ALL STAR C signed for $5M to join a dynasty with 4 OTHER ALL STARS, because of the lack parity and competitive balance. That lack of such things make the league broken.
 
trailblazer18 said:
I understand the frustration @BonesJones And others feel, but @KingSpeed is right on this one. NBA ratings will continue to grow with these moves. Ratings are controlled by big markets, not Blazer fans. Big markets have fans all over the place.
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Big market fans don't outweigh casual and smaller-market fans, and most big market fans tuned in anyway.
 
BonesJones said:
An ALL STAR C signed for $5M to join a dynasty with 4 OTHER ALL STARS, because of the lack parity and competitive balance. That lack of such things make the league broken.
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Cousins isn't his All Star self anymore. It takes more than a season to recover from a ruptured Achilles. Who was the last big man to bounce back from this injury and return to his All Star self? Looks like he's just signing up for a ring. As for is the league broken, well, the NBA is getting a fuck of a lot of publicity right now and everyone is talking about it. There's no such thing as bad publicity in the entertainment world. I personally will watch the NBA just as much though I may not watch Warriors/Lakers in playoffs if it happens because I don't like either team. I can't root for Durant and I can't root for Lakers. But there's lots of other basketball to watch and the Rockets, who I don't like much either but I can root for them, were up 3-2 over Warriors before CP3 got hurt. I think they have a shot. I don't think Lakers will be more than a 4 seed.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Listening to the local radio here in lA, I fucking love how the Warriors just stole their thunder, at least for the day. Reality just set in.[/QUOT
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Wizard Mentor said:
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Such a joke. No one should be able to take that little below market value. If a player does this, the League should mandate the said players next contract be at only 10% increase over previous year unless it's his original team. Then if he signs another like that, it only goes up to 11% increase. Sure, go ahead, sign that kind of deal WAYYYY below market value, but pay the price going forward.
 
BonesJones said:
Big market fans don't outweigh smaller-market fans, and most big market fans tuned in anyway.
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Yes they do.

As for casual fans (the other part of your statement), they watch when the NBA is interesting and there are big stars in involved. They'll be watching this season. NBA had HUGE ratings when Jordan was beating on the league every year.
 
BonesJones said:
Big market fans don't outweigh casual and smaller-market fans, and most big market fans tuned in anyway.
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Fo every fan tuning out like you, they will gain 5 new fans enticed by the star power and marketing the league will do. The NBA hasn't been making bad business decisions, maybe decisions that fans like you don't agree with, but not decisions that hurt the bottom line. The NBA is in am amazing place popularity wise. Moves like this increase overseas viewing by millions.
 
BonesJones- as he said, the big market fans are EVERYWHERE. Milwaukee fans are in Milwaukee for the most part. Blazers fans are in Portland for the most part. Lakers fans are EVERYWHERE.
 
trailblazer18 said:
Fo every fan tuning out like you, they will gain 5 new fans enticed by the star power and marketing the league will do. The NBA hasn't been making bad business decisions, maybe decisions that fans like you don't agree with, but not decisions that hurt the bottom line. The NBA is in am amazing place popularity wise. Moves like this increase overseas viewing by millions.
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Exactly.
 
KingSpeed said:
Yes they do.

As for casual fans (the other part of your statement), they watch when the NBA is interesting and there are big stars in involved. They'll be watching this season. NBA had HUGE ratings when Jordan was beating on the league every year.
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I will say that some of the big market World Series have been poorly watched in comparison to smaller market matchups. I didn't watch the Finals when LA and Boston were involved last matchup between those two.
 
trailblazer18 said:
I understand the frustration @BonesJones And others feel, but @KingSpeed is right on this one. NBA ratings will continue to grow with these moves. Ratings are controlled by big markets, not Blazer fans. Big markets have fans all over the place.
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Maybe. But just maybe there are way more Casual Fans that big market fans, and all of those are going to be turned off, and not watch the NBA. Another problem is other big market fans. If I'm a bulls fan, I throw up my hands and instead keep closer track of the White Sox, Cubs, Blackhawks, Bears, Hockey,.... As a Chicago fan I have so many choices, I don't need no stinkin NBA. And that turns into the lost revenue for the NBA.

So, for me it's closer to
Winners: California Economy
Losers: Everyone Else
 
KingSpeed said:
Cousins isn't his All Star self anymore. It takes more than a season to recover from a ruptured Achilles. Who was the last big man to bounce back from this injury and return to his All Star self? Looks like he's just signing up for a ring. As for is the league broken, well, the NBA is getting a fuck of a lot of publicity right now and everyone is talking about it. There's no such thing as bad publicity in the entertainment world. I personally will watch the NBA just as much though I may not watch Warriors/Lakers in playoffs if it happens because I don't like either team. I can't root for Durant and I can't root for Lakers. But there's lots of other basketball to watch and the Rockets, who I don't like much either but I can root for them, were up 3-2 over Warriors before CP3 got hurt. I think they have a shot. I don't think Lakers will be more than a 4 seed.
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Talking about how broken the league is doesn't bring them money. You're an NBA fanboy, so you literally ignore the point against them based off semantics that aren't relevant to the point I'm trying to make... That's why I don't have conversations with you regarding stuff like this.
 
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