Zombie Derrick Jones to Portland (1 Viewer)

[B-Roy]

Not saying you're wrong, but I listened to ths presser twice and I didn't catch where he said DJJ was starting. Can you timestamp when he said that? I thought he did say something about DJJ and Covington being interchangeable.

"Depending on who starts at 3, we assume it's Cov.....and Derrick."

I guess you could interpret that is as saying either Cov or Derrick will start at the 3, but given that the context of the question was whether Melo is going to come off the bench, and right before this Neil basically said Melo would likely come off the bench and play 20-22 minutes, I think it's inferred that (at least in Neil's mind, who knows about Terry) that Cov and Derrick will be starting at the forward spots.

 

[Tince]

"Depending on who starts at 3, we assume it's Cov.....and Derrick."

I guess you could interpret that is as saying either Cov or Derrick will start at the 3, but given that the context of the question was whether Melo is going to come off the bench, and right before this Neil basically said Melo would likely come off the bench and play 20-22 minutes, I think it's inferred that (at least in Neil's mind, who knows about Terry) that Cov and Derrick will be starting at the forward spots.

Thank you... He worded that so weird; specifically talking about the SF position he lists 2 people as the starter.

 

[B-Roy]

I remember this game. Jones spent a good amount of time on Dame and defended him well.

 

[Scalma]

Check this shit out



I wonder how many people would’ve had an issue with giving Oubre the full MLE, had he been a free agent. Zero?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Check this shit out

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I wonder how many people would’ve had an issue with giving Oubre the full MLE, had he been a free agent. Zero?

Usage tends to skew people's perceptions of a player's ability.

 

[Scalma]

Usage tends to skew people's perceptions of a player's ability.

It just tells you who's being used correctly

 

[kjironman1]

The coach is literally supposed to design who to pass it to ahead of time.

With multiple options for different looks depending on where the double comes from.

 

[kjironman1]

Do you guys think Blazers should play a lot of zone defense next year since Jones has been so successful with that?

They will.

 

[kjironman1]

I totally agree turnovers can happen when you split a double, as with any play. I think it's a complicated assessment when determining when Dame should try to split a double team.

Happens all the time but he also has to make a decision quick. Part of the game.

 

[kjironman1]

A lot of guys do it routinely though in the NBA. Elite PGs shouldn’t have too much problem with it.

Dame does it about 1/3 of the time at least.

 

[blazerkor]

Happens all the time but he also has to make a decision quick. Part of the game.

Quick might be a little simple. He has to do it in a window after the trap has been committed to but before it's smothered him because if he just makes a quick decision we are in a situation where we can't take advantage of the 4 on 3 and they can play ball denial against Dame... taking out our best option. I really hope we see him getting it this season having practiced against a trap of RoCo and DJJ.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I've kind of written off Derrick at this point. I love the dunks and occasional blocks, but he just doesn't seem to help much out there. I'm not seeing the defense. He's not a terrible three point shooter, but I'd rather give all his minutes to Nassir Little and even a few to Elleby. I think Jones is all sizzle and no steak. Anyone got stats to prove me wrong?

 

[Labinot41]

I've kind of written off Derrick at this point. I love the dunks and occasional blocks, but he just doesn't seem to help much out there. I'm not seeing the defense. He's not a terrible three point shooter, but I'd rather give all his minutes to Nassir Little and even a few to Elleby. I think Jones is all sizzle and no steak. Anyone got stats to prove me wrong?

I think he could be better but we basicly knew Stotts wouldn't use him right. I don't think it’s Jones' fault

 

[Tince]

I think he could be better but we basicly knew Stotts wouldn't use him right. I don't think it’s Jones' fault

Did Spoelstra not use him right either?

 

[kjironman1]

Did Spoelstra not use him right either?

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C'mon.
That is just not fair. Spoelstra didn't know what he had for three years. Stotts never won a championship either. Spoelstra has earned the right to get mediocre results from a mediocre player. Stotts has not earned that right!

 

[Tince]

C'mon.
That is just not fair. Spoelstra didn't know what he had for three years. Stotts never won a championship either. Spoelstra has earned the right to get mediocre results from a mediocre player. Stotts has not earned that right!

OK OK OK... my bad!

 

[Chris Craig]

C'mon.
That is just not fair. Spoelstra didn't know what he had for three years. Stotts never won a championship either. Spoelstra has earned the right to get mediocre results from a mediocre player. Stotts has not earned that right!

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I think he could be better but we basicly knew Stotts wouldn't use him right. I don't think it’s Jones' fault

Olshey can only hope that this is what Jones thinks; and as a consequence Jones will not exercise his option.

 

[Mr. Robot]

djj could offer more, if that idiot of the coach would play him the right way

djj should play a lot with nurk and cut to the basket often

 

[Rastapopoulos]

djj could offer more, if that idiot of the coach would play him the right way

djj should play a lot with nurk and cut to the basket often

You'd think this would've been a good strategy with Bam, but I guess that idiot Spoelstra didn't see it

 

[Mr. Robot]

You'd think this would've been a good strategy with Bam, but I guess that idiot Spoelstra didn't see it

i can speak only for stotts, cause i saw what nurk did with dame, cj mccollum, harkless, aminu, vonleh and layman cutting to the basket and we can do that with djj

nurk is that guy that can change entire look of one teams offense with his passing from both low and high post, why arent we doing that often is a mystery for me

stotts put djj in the corner to shoot threes and hes not even average 3-point shooter

 

[kjironman1]

i can speak only for stotts, cause i saw what nurk did with dame, cj mccollum, harkless, aminu, vonleh and layman cutting to the basket and we can do that with djj

nurk is that guy that can change entire look of one teams offense with his passing from both low and high post, why arent we doing that often is a mystery for me

stotts put djj in the corner to shoot threes and hes not even average 3-point shooter

Maybe Nurk is getting into shape again and working with him to do this? Maybe they need a little more time to get things rolling?
I watched last game pretty close. Nurk is way better this week than last.

 

[bobf]

I've kind of written off Derrick at this point. I love the dunks and occasional blocks, but he just doesn't seem to help much out there. I'm not seeing the defense. He's not a terrible three point shooter, but I'd rather give all his minutes to Nassir Little and even a few to Elleby. I think Jones is all sizzle and no steak. Anyone got stats to prove me wrong?

His advanced stats are better than Melo's. He's young and still likely to improve. His 3 point % is up from around 29% career to 33% this year.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

His advanced stats are better than Melo's. .

This is called "damning with faint praise" or "lowering the bar"

 

[bobf]

djj could offer more, if that idiot of the coach would play him the right way

djj should play a lot with nurk and cut to the basket often

Funny I want Powell to play with Nurk so he can get some more shots. I guess everyone should play with Nurk (except Melo).

 

[bobf]

This is called "damning with faint praise" or "lowering the bar"

What it really means is I want DJ and Little to take all of Melo's minutes. But DJ advanced stats are also better than Little's... though I don't really buy it as I don't think Nas has been used enough for him really gel.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

What it really means is I want DJ and Little to take all of Melo's minutes.

I'm with you for the most part, except if it's Blazer ball, all tied up, and Dame, CJ and Kanter have fouled out. Melo can still get his shot off on ANYbody.

But DJ advanced stats are also better than Little's... though I don't really buy it as I don't think Nas has been used enough for him really gel.

Agreed. Trouble is, every time he seems to get into a groove, he hurts himself or gets sick.

 

[bobf]

I'm with you for the most part, except if it's Blazer ball, all tied up, and Dame, CJ and Kanter have fouled out. Melo can still get his shot off on ANYbody.


Agreed. Trouble is, every time he seems to get into a groove, he hurts himself or gets sick.

According to Stotts, Melo is also useful if the game is tied and you need a stop. Brad Stevens agrees.

Little, even when he plays I feel like he doesn’t get used or involved enough in the offense. He seems like a great finisher around the rim and through contact.

 

[SIeepwalker]

This is called "damning with faint praise" or "lowering the bar"

Well Melo's playing more than anyone else off the bench so...

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Hollinger before free-agency began put Jones in a category of what type of contract he should get:

Less than the max but more than the MLE.

Yikers