Detroit

[Further]

Take a Luden

 

[julius]

I'll let Further tell you why your reply was a giant fail. In this case 3 was not a magic number.

Or was it?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It's from a De La Soul song. Unless you mentioned that your favorite drama movie was "blood sucking freaks who was just like yo mama" the response wars destined to fail.


Big props and mega reps going plug one style to SlyPokerDog in the Daisy Age!

I've seen De La Soul 4 times in concert, lol.

 

[Further]

I've seen De La Soul 4 times in concert, lol.

I bought tickets to go once, but didn't realize I was going to be out of the nation at the time of the concert. I remember being in the frankfurt airport depressed that I was missing a De La show at that moment.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

I bought tickets to go once, but didn't realize I was going to be out of the nation at the time of the concert. I remember being in the frankfurt airport depressed that I was missing a De La show at that moment.

They played The Bite 7 or 8 years ago. Really odd choice for The Bite so there were maybe 100 people there. My friend and I pushed our way up to the front of the stage. At one point, and I swear to god this is the truth, they tossed a mic down to me and I got rap a couple of lines of Buddy.

[video=youtube;IKl5LpQsI6M]

 

[Further]

They played The Bite 7 or 8 years ago. Really odd choice for The Bite so there were maybe 100 people there. My friend and I pushed our way up to the front of the stage. At one point, and I swear to god this is the truth, they tossed a mic down to me and I got rap a couple of lines of Buddy.

[video=youtube;IKl5LpQsI6M]

Man, how cool! That whole 3 feet high and rising album was huge for me. Loved it. Never got too into the rest of their work, but that album was awesome. I don't know nursery rhymes well, so when I have to sing to a baby to get them sleep, I usually sing Tread Water.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Man, how cool! That whole 3 feet high and rising album was huge for me. Loved it. Never got too into the rest of their work, but that album was awesome. I don't know nursery rhymes well, so when I have to sing to a baby to get them sleep, I usually sing Tread Water.

Get the Grind Date, second favorite album after 3 Feet.

Right now I'm watching this - https://myspace.com/jimmykimmellive/live/paul-mccartney-live-stream/24

 

[Further]

Get the Grind Date, second favorite album after 3 Feet.

Right now I'm watching this - https://myspace.com/jimmykimmellive/live/paul-mccartney-live-stream/24

Maybe I'll switch over. Listening to the Further show going on down in Eugene, but it kind of sucks. They just announced going on hiatus and it sounds like that are just mailing it in.

 

[julius]

It's funny how a thread about detroit and it's current situation, turned into a De La Soul thread

 

[SlyPokerDog]

It's funny how a thread about detroit and it's current situation, turned into a De La Soul thread

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[Further]

It's funny how a thread about detroit and it's current situation, turned into a De La Soul thread

Would you rather it turn back to A Democrats eat babies thread?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

It's because 84% of the population in Detroit is black.

#WhatEveryRepublicanThinksButWillNeverSayInPublic

Except you-know-who:

"Rush Limbaugh claimed the large black population in Detroit caused a "white flight" from the urban center to suburbia, ultimately leading to the city's demise."

 

[MarAzul]

It's because 84% of the population in Detroit is black.

#WhatEveryRepublicanThinksButWillNeverSayInPublic

Except you-know-who:

"Rush Limbaugh claimed the large black population in Detroit caused a "white flight" from the urban center to suburbia, ultimately leading to the city's demise."

What are you saying? White people left and the Black people can't run the town? Jesus man! They may tar and feather you.

 

[DaLincolnJones]

Would you rather it turn back to A Democrats eat babies thread?

damn man, you are still yapping despiteyour pledge to shut the fuck up?

 

[DaLincolnJones]

It's because 84% of the population in Detroit is black.

#WhatEveryRepublicanThinksButWillNeverSayInPublic

Except you-know-who:

"Rush Limbaugh claimed the large black population in Detroit caused a "white flight" from the urban center to suburbia, ultimately leading to the city's demise."

why would anyone listen to him..he is an entertainer, nothing else

 

[Masbee]

It's because 84% of the population in Detroit is black.

#WhatEveryRepublicanThinksButWillNeverSayInPublic

Except you-know-who:

"Rush Limbaugh claimed the large black population in Detroit caused a "white flight" from the urban center to suburbia, ultimately leading to the city's demise."

Wouldnt that be better for blacks?

I mean all those racist white crackers flee the city and leave behind one of the great city infrastructures in the entire world. Blacks are the majority, control the govt and can run the town. Why cant this work?

 

[maxiep]

It's sad to see a racist like Fez Hammersticks spreading his hate on this board.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

It's sad to see a racist like Fez Hammersticks spreading his hate on this board.

You're soooo oppressed [/green font]

 

[mook]

Is it a bad thing that a city is allowed to fail? When corporations and individuals fail we consider it part of the creative destruction of the free market. Maybe that logic should apply to whole cities as well. I know I don't want any of my own tax dollars used to prop up that wasteland.

How many people left Detroit and became part of the thriving success of other cities? It's easy to point at the hulking wasteland of those buildings, but it's harder to see the new opportunities found by people motivated to move somewhere that positioned them for success.

Detroit is depressing as fuck, and I totally get that it didn't have to be that way. I feel bad for the people who won't get their pensions, and I feel bad for kids born into that fucking squalor. But maybe instead of a revitalization program they should go with a full evacuation program, encouraging the illiterate and poor to bail on that city like all the smart people did long ago. Why encourage people to rebuild on a festering corpse.

 

[Denny Crane]

Obama saved the auto industry, but forgot to do squat about Detroit.

When Katrina hit New Orleans, the govt. spent $108B to rebuild it.

Detroit owes $20B, tops.

Obama blew his $800B + $350B (1/2 TARP) wad.

No excuses.

 

[Nikolokolus]

Is it a bad thing that a city is allowed to fail? When corporations and individuals fail we consider it part of the creative destruction of the free market. Maybe that logic should apply to whole cities as well. I know I don't want any of my own tax dollars used to prop up that wasteland.

How many people left Detroit and became part of the thriving success of other cities? It's easy to point at the hulking wasteland of those buildings, but it's harder to see the new opportunities found by people motivated to move somewhere that positioned them for success.

Detroit is depressing as fuck, and I totally get that it didn't have to be that way. I feel bad for the people who won't get their pensions, and I feel bad for kids born into that fucking squalor. But maybe instead of a revitalization program they should go with a full evacuation program, encouraging the illiterate and poor to bail on that city like all the smart people did long ago. Why encourage people to rebuild on a festering corpse.

Smart =/= means

 

[mook]

I really don't know much about the city of Detroit, to be honest. I do know I'm not excited to ever move there.

But I personally see investing in the recovery of New Orleans as a pretty worthy endeavor (provided it's done in such a way that we aren't rebuilding it every damned time a big hurricane blows by). Even though it's got its own notoriously corrupt politics, it also has a very unique and valuable cultural identity. I may sound like I'm romanticizing it a little, but it really is something of a national treasure. I can see why people would want to live there. And it's in a very strategic location in our country. A city really needs to be where New Orleans is. Can the same really be said about Detroit?

 

[mook]

Smart =/= means

Very true. I should have said "the smart and the wealthy people" in contrast to illiterate and poor.

 

[blue9]

And what should scare people about Detroit, is that it's the model we're following in the United States as a whole. A privileged few feasting off the labor of the common person, all in the name of helping those very people from whom they're leeching.

This isn't Democrat/Republican. This is ruling class/underclass.

Here's a statement that I fully agree with.

 

[mook]

Here's a statement that I fully agree with.

I think there's a valuable lesson in there about one-party rule. It's never a good idea for a single party to be running anything for multiple decades, whether Democratic or Republican.

 

[Denny Crane]

I really don't know much about the city of Detroit, to be honest. I do know I'm not excited to ever move there.

But I personally see investing in the recovery of New Orleans as a pretty worthy endeavor (provided it's done in such a way that we aren't rebuilding it every damned time a big hurricane blows by). Even though it's got its own notoriously corrupt politics, it also has a very unique and valuable cultural identity. I may sound like I'm romanticizing it a little, but it really is something of a national treasure. I can see why people would want to live there. And it's in a very strategic location in our country. A city really needs to be where New Orleans is. Can the same really be said about Detroit?

It's way nicer than any place in England.

 

[blue9]

I think there's a valuable lesson in there about one-party rule. It's never a good idea for a single party to be running anything for multiple decades, whether Democratic or Republican.

Meh. I don't think Detroit's situation has anything to do with political affiliation - it's corruption plain and simple. That's not something that's uniquely Democrat (or Republican).

 

[Nikolokolus]

Sorry I should have elaborated on my point. I agree that it might be time for people to move on and abandon the city, but where do they go and how do they get there and what are they supposed to do when they move into another community with little means of material support? I'm not sure what the right answer is, but if there is a mandatory evacuation I assume that means that Federal and State agencies are going to take responsibility for all of these people. That means, food, shelter, transportation and possibly retraining and trying to fit them into a new community (while the job market is still fairly depressed in most places).

Maybe the government goes old school and brings back the old land-grant system, turns the whole central city into rehabilitated farm-land, and retrains these people how to grow food. I'm half joking ... but just half.

 

[mook]

Sorry I should have elaborated on my point. I agree that it might be time for people to move on and abandon the city, but where do they go and how do they get there and what are they supposed to do when they move into another community with little means of material support? I'm not sure what the right answer is, but if there is a mandatory evacuation I assume that means that Federal and State agencies are going to take responsibility for all of these people. That means, food, shelter, transportation and possibly retraining and trying to fit them into a new community (while the job market is still fairly depressed in most places).

Maybe the government goes old school and brings back the old land-grant system, turns the whole central city into rehabilitated farm-land, and retrains these people how to grow food. I'm half joking ... but just half.

Yeah, I don't know what the solution is.

Maybe the feds should buy the whole goddamned thing and use the city as a military training facility. Most of our future wars are going to be fought in that kind of hellscape anyway. Take the money used to buy it and spend it on bus tickets and food stamps for anybody left. If you can prove you own property there and are still living there, maybe you get a little extra. lol

 

[DaLincolnJones]

I believe that I read in an ealier post that less than half of the population can even read. No matter where they end up, they are going to be reliant upon the government. Odds are that many of the 33 plus thousand people are not model citizens...who will want them in their community? If relocated, are they going to be the cause of further flight?