DNC

[Denny Crane]

It's interesting to think that Republicans say "quit blaming Bush" (which the amount of they are exaggerating), but they themselves didn't even bother to invite him to the convention.

They totally could've spun things to make him out to be a valuable asset.

Even they know that he was a horrible president whose policies (and wars) put us in the situation we're in. As much as they want to try to blame Obama for it (either by saying his "policies" have ruined America...which they haven't, especially since he hasn't done much, or by saying that things that were not his own doing was his doing), they know what the results would be if they invited or highlighted Bush.

Jeb Bush was one of the speakers at the convention.

Republican presidents seem to honor the long standing tradition that a former president doesn't criticize the current one.

 

[RoyToy]

Republican presidents seem to honor the long standing tradition that a former president doesn't criticize the current one.

So that means he doesn't even make an appearance? Maybe even make a little speech endorsing Romney? Hmmm.

We both know why he wasn't there. He practically lost McCain the election.

 

[Denny Crane]

So that means he doesn't even make an appearance? Maybe even make a little speech endorsing Romney? Hmmm.

We both know why he wasn't there. He practically lost McCain the election.

I don't think so.

GHW Bush didn't speak at W's 2000 convention either.

Reagan spoke at the 1988 convention, but there was no sitting opposing party president at that time.

 

[RoyToy]

And I wonder why Reagam spoke. Hmmm.

HW didn't serve two terms like his son did. Two freaking terms! And now he no longer exists!

 

[julius]

I don't think so.

GHW Bush didn't speak at W's 2000 convention either.

Reagan spoke at the 1988 convention, but there was no sitting opposing party president at that time.

Papa Bush didn't speak at the 2000 convention because he hadn't been president for 8 years. Bush was just president 4 years ago.

 

[Denny Crane]

GHW is a former president, period.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

 

[julius]

GHW is a former president, period.

yeah, but we're tlaking about the last president that not only THEY had (in their party) but the last guy PERIOD who was President.

 

[RoyToy]

G.W. Bush
Dick Cheney
Donald Rumsfeld
Colin Powell

John McCain
Sarah Palin

All absent!

Why?!?!?!?!

2000-Jan 20, 2009 doesn't exist!

 

[julius]

McCain was there.

 

[Denny Crane]

yeah, but we're tlaking about the last president that not only THEY had (in their party) but the last guy PERIOD who was President.

And republican presidents respect the office, so they don't make political appearances or publicly criticize Obama (or Clinton when he was in office).

 

[Denny Crane]

G.W. Bush
Dick Cheney
Donald Rumsfeld
Colin Powell

John McCain
Sarah Palin

All absent!

Why?!?!?!?!

2000-Jan 20, 2009 doesn't exist!

Jeb Bush and Condoleeza Rice both made speeches.

 

[julius]

And republican presidents respect the office, so they don't make political appearances or publicly criticize Obama (or Clinton when he was in office).

So you're saying that GW Bush was incapable of showing respect to the office?

 

[Denny Crane]

So you're saying that GW Bush was incapable of showing respect to the office?

No. Parse English much?

 

[RoyToy]

Jeb Bush and Condoleeza Rice both made speeches.

Jeb Bush isn't the former president that served two terms and the most recent past president. I don't know why you keep going to this.

Condoleeza Rice is a great person for the Republicans and Romney to throw out there being an African-American woman. Appeals to two demographics that they're desperately trying to tap into.

People are carefully chosen to be at these things. Like you mentioned, the Republicans went to Reagan in 1988 because Republicans go apeshit over Reagan. It's pretty much the same reason why Bill Clinton is always at these things.

And it's why people like George W Bush and Dick Chaney aren't there. It's probably not smart to invite a guy that had that kind of approval rating he did.

Obama was able to paint McCain as another Bush and it's a big reason why he won big in 2008. Romney wants no part of that.

 

[julius]

apparently I don't read as well as i thought.

 

[Denny Crane]

Jeb Bush isn't the former president that served two terms and the most recent past president. I don't know why you keep going to this.

Condoleeza Rice is a great person for the Republicans and Romney to throw out there being an African-American woman. Appeals to two demographics that they're desperately trying to tap into.

People are carefully chosen to be at these things. Like you mentioned, the Republicans went to Reagan in 1988 because Republicans go apeshit over Reagan. It's pretty much the same reason why Bill Clinton is always at these things.

And it's why people like George W Bush and Dick Chaney aren't there. It's probably not smart to invite a guy that had that kind of approval rating he did.

Obama was able to paint McCain as another Bush and it's a big reason why he won big in 2008. Romney wants no part of that.

Obama literally had 5x the money McCain did. It allowed him to go after states traditionally republican and forced McCain to defend those.

If Obama wants to tie Romney to W via the people who spoke at the convention, then there's two.

The RNC was all about fresh faces, not rehashing previous administrations - other than this past miserable one.

 

[RoyToy]

Obama literally had 5x the money McCain did. It allowed him to go after states traditionally republican and forced McCain to defend those.

If Obama wants to tie Romney to W via the people who spoke at the convention, then there's two.

The RNC was all about fresh faces, not rehashing previous administrations - other than this past miserable one.

Exactly right!

 

[MARIS61]

Bill Clinton's speech will be more anticipated than President Obama's.

It's all good.

I'm pretty sure he's pro-Obama.

 

[MARIS61]

This is a much more diplomatic response. Although I personally think the birth certificate thing is a lame duck argument, I fail to see how someone's Constitutional eligibility for the presidency correlates with someone's religious beliefs.

Proof of gullibility would suggest him being President might be disastrous for the country.

The "holy underwear" isn't much different than wearing a cross around my neck, a yamaka on my head, a nun's habit, a priest's collar, a hijab, a turban (for some), etc. I just decide to do it under my clothes instead of in front of everyone. It's a sign of my religious commitment.

Lacking the pride or courage to openly advertise your religion like the others you mention doesn't sound very Presidential.

You've misspoken about African Americans. They've always been allowed in the church. It's the Priesthood they were denied, which is admittedly an important part of the religion, but not the same thing as barring them from the faith wholesale.

So, they can ride the bus, as long as they sit at the back of the bus. Gotcha.

...

 

[PapaG]

Obama's lackeys are in meltdown mode. Should be a fun week...

 

[barfo]

The RNC was all about fresh faces

82-year-old Clint is certainly fresh.

barfo

 

[julius]

Obama's lackeys are in meltdown mode. Should be a fun week...

Here? You have a strange definition of "meltdown"

Although you excell in fallacious arguments

 

[D-Rock]

This is a much more diplomatic response. Although I personally think the birth certificate thing is a lame duck argument, I fail to see how someone's Constitutional eligibility for the presidency correlates with someone's religious beliefs.

Proof of gullibility would suggest him being President might be disastrous for the country.

The "holy underwear" isn't much different than wearing a cross around my neck, a yamaka on my head, a nun's habit, a priest's collar, a hijab, a turban (for some), etc. I just decide to do it under my clothes instead of in front of everyone. It's a sign of my religious commitment.

Lacking the pride or courage to openly advertise your religion like the others you mention doesn't sound very Presidential.

You've misspoken about African Americans. They've always been allowed in the church. It's the Priesthood they were denied, which is admittedly an important part of the religion, but not the same thing as barring them from the faith wholesale.

So, they can ride the bus, as long as they sit at the back of the bus. Gotcha.

Apples and oranges. Zags was making the same type of lame comparison you are. The birth certificate relates to Obama's ability to even put his name on the ballot. Yours and Zags biased views on Mormonism only effect your perceived belief of Romney's capabilities as President. Pretty easy to see the lack of parallel.

Sorry, I forgot we were in the "look at me! look at me!" generation. Nothing can be sacred or private anymore otherwise it's secret and/or cultish. Just because I don't share all of my life with the media I lack pride or courage? That's why I (as well as Romney and presently over 55,000 others) paid to serve a 2 year mission to share my beliefs; because I was lacking pride or courage to openly advertise my religion... Makes sense... I guess if you're looking for outward displays of LDS faith, you can look for CTR rings. CTR stands for Choose the Right. Those are kinda like the Mormon equivalent of the WWJD wrist band things. Or you could look for these on key chains. That's a pretty much dead give away the guy is active in the church.

I know you're not a fan of any religion, so the following may not mean much to you, and you threw out the devil wink, so you're probably being a little tongue-in-cheek, but I'll thrown this out there anyway. I don't know the reasoning behind the LDS church's stance on blacks and the Priesthood prior to '78 and can't relate from my own experience since I wasn't alive when that standard was in effect, but I always find it interesting that Mormons get special treatment on this issue considering many other faiths did similar or worse; including virtually every protestant church (and especially evangelicals) I can think of that wasn't a "black" church. Gotta love double standards!

 

[Eastoff]

Apples and oranges. Zags was making the same type of lame comparison you are. The birth certificate relates to Obama's ability to even put his name on the ballot. Yours and Zags biased views on Mormonism only effect your perceived belief of Romney's capabilities as President. Pretty easy to see the lack of parallel.

Sorry, I forgot we were in the "look at me! look at me!" generation. Nothing can be sacred or private anymore otherwise it's secret and/or cultish. Just because I don't share all of my life with the media I lack pride or courage? That's why I (as well as Romney and presently over 55,000 others) paid to serve a 2 year mission to share my beliefs; because I was lacking pride or courage to openly advertise my religion... Makes sense... I guess if you're looking for outward displays of LDS faith, you can look for CTR rings. CTR stands for Choose the Right. Those are kinda like the Mormon equivalent of the WWJD wrist band things. Or you could look for these on key chains. That's a pretty much dead give away the guy is active in the church.

I know you're not a fan of any religion, so the following may not mean much to you, and you threw out the devil wink, so you're probably being a little tongue-in-cheek, but I'll thrown this out there anyway. I don't know the reasoning behind the LDS church's stance on blacks and the Priesthood prior to '78 and can't relate from my own experience since I wasn't alive when that standard was in effect, but I always find it interesting that Mormons get special treatment on this issue considering many other faiths did similar or worse; including virtually every protestant church (and especially evangelicals) I can think of that wasn't a "black" church. Gotta love double standards!

There's nothing more unusual or bizarre in mormonism as compared to generic christians, but he doesn't seem to be talking about it very much. Because he knows the republican base is now evangelicals that fear mormons.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Julian Castro is tearing it up.

San Antonio is investing in education and jobs while Portland is investing in bike paths and bioswales.

 

[RoyToy]

Julian Castro is lighting it up

 

[maxiep]

Julian Castro is tearing it up.

San Antonio is investing in education and jobs while Portland is investing in bike paths and bioswales.

They also have a better basketball team.

 

[maxiep]

Interesting juxtaposition. The RNC seemed to be trying to appeal to the head, while the DNC seems to be trying to appeal to the heart.

 

[RoyToy]

Republicans don't have hearts

I keed...I keed...