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Sinobas said:
I'm in favor of keeping Muslims out, and also illegal immigrants. As far as deporting, limit it to people with a violent criminal record.
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Buh Bye Kareem! Fuck you and that muslim ass "sky hook"!
 
dviss1 said:
Buh Bye Kareem! Fuck you and that muslim ass "sky hook"!
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There was actually a time when much of the Muslim world was becoming pretty liberal. I hope they can go back to that, but right now, the fundamentalism is rampant and dangerous.
 
Sinobas said:
There was actually a time when much of the Muslim world was becoming pretty liberal. I hope they can go back to that, but right now, the fundamentalism is rampant and dangerous.
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Sinobas.... You don't have a clue what Muslims believe. I could say A LOT of the same things about Christianity. And I'd be speaking from experience.
 
dviss1 said:
Sinobas.... You don't have a clue what Muslims believe. I could say A LOT of the same things about Christianity. And I'd be speaking from experience.
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I don't? How on earth would you know that?

Christians are currently not imposing the death penalty on apostates as they do in the Muslim world. I'm not a christian, and I'm not here to defend christianity, but unfortunately, no matter how bad christianity is, it doesn't help anyone suffering under Islamic oppression.If you want to defend such a hateful ideology, I have no time for you.
 
Sinobas said:
I don't? How on earth would you know that?

Christians are currently not imposing the death penalty on apostates as they do in the Muslim world. I'm not a christian, and I'm not here to defend christianity, but unfortunately, no matter how bad christianity is, it doesn't help anyone suffering under Islamic oppression.If you want to defend such a hateful ideology, I have no time for you.
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Because you're not Muslim either. You don't have any relationship with them.

I have childhood friends that are muslim. I've taken time to talk with and understand them. You, from your statement above, don't even have time for someone who would defend them. You know nothing about them yet act like you know all about them... Typical.
 
Trump Transition Team Filled with Hardline Anti-Immigration Advocates


Leigh Ann Caldwell


President-elect Donald Trump is assembling some of the most conservative opponents to illegal immigration for his transition into the White House

Kris Kobach, Kansas' Secretary of State, who is a champion of tough anti-illegal immigration laws and ideas, has been hired for Trump's transition team.

"There's going to be a lot to do there in part because Mr. Trump and Mr. Obama are diametric opposites when it comes to immigration policy," Kobach told Kansas' KWCH. "So there will be a lot of changes."

President Obama was unable to get passed comprehensive immigration reform during his term, but he passed two executive actions that exempt DREAMers and their families from deportation.

In Trump's 10-point immigration plan, he says he will "cancel" the executive orders.

Kobach was the architect of Arizona's SB 1070 law which allows law enforcement to ask people for to prove their immigration status when there is "reasonable suspicion" that they might not be in the country legally. He also coined the idea of "self-deportation," which would make immigration laws so stringent that it would encourage people to leave the country.

As for the wall along the southern border, Kobach said it will get built, "no question."

"The only question is how quickly will it get done and who helps pay for it," he said. Trump has vowed that Mexico will pay for it.

According to a document obtained by the New York Times, leading Trump's "Immigration Reform & Building the Wall" component of his transition is Danielle Cutrona.

She is Sen. Jeff Sessions' counsel on the Judiciary Committee. Sessions has long opposed illegal — and many forms of legal — immigration. During the campaign, Trump adopted many of Sessions' policy positions, including ending federal funding for sanctuary cities and ending "catch-and-release."

Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, said that "personnel is policy" at this point in the administration.

"Who is in the room and who is appointed to these positiosn has massive implications for the American economy, particularly when it comes to immigration," Noorani said.

Trump made immigration central to his candidacy, and after a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan on Capitol Hill Thursday, he said immigration was his top priority.

As for the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the country, Rep. Chris Collins of New York, one of Trump's earliest backers, said deporting them is not part of the plan and that after the border is secure and the "criminal element" is removed, Collins predicts some sort of legalization for the undocumented.

"I think we can do fundamental immigration reform," he said.
 
Hobbesarable said:
Trump Transition Team Filled with Hardline Anti-Immigration Advocates


Leigh Ann Caldwell


President-elect Donald Trump is assembling some of the most conservative opponents to illegal immigration for his transition into the White House

Kris Kobach, Kansas' Secretary of State, who is a champion of tough anti-illegal immigration laws and ideas, has been hired for Trump's transition team.

"There's going to be a lot to do there in part because Mr. Trump and Mr. Obama are diametric opposites when it comes to immigration policy," Kobach told Kansas' KWCH. "So there will be a lot of changes."

President Obama was unable to get passed comprehensive immigration reform during his term, but he passed two executive actions that exempt DREAMers and their families from deportation.

In Trump's 10-point immigration plan, he says he will "cancel" the executive orders.

Kobach was the architect of Arizona's SB 1070 law which allows law enforcement to ask people for to prove their immigration status when there is "reasonable suspicion" that they might not be in the country legally. He also coined the idea of "self-deportation," which would make immigration laws so stringent that it would encourage people to leave the country.

As for the wall along the southern border, Kobach said it will get built, "no question."

"The only question is how quickly will it get done and who helps pay for it," he said. Trump has vowed that Mexico will pay for it.

According to a document obtained by the New York Times, leading Trump's "Immigration Reform & Building the Wall" component of his transition is Danielle Cutrona.

She is Sen. Jeff Sessions' counsel on the Judiciary Committee. Sessions has long opposed illegal — and many forms of legal — immigration. During the campaign, Trump adopted many of Sessions' policy positions, including ending federal funding for sanctuary cities and ending "catch-and-release."

Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, said that "personnel is policy" at this point in the administration.

"Who is in the room and who is appointed to these positiosn has massive implications for the American economy, particularly when it comes to immigration," Noorani said.

Trump made immigration central to his candidacy, and after a meeting with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell and House Speaker Paul Ryan on Capitol Hill Thursday, he said immigration was his top priority.

As for the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants living in the country, Rep. Chris Collins of New York, one of Trump's earliest backers, said deporting them is not part of the plan and that after the border is secure and the "criminal element" is removed, Collins predicts some sort of legalization for the undocumented.

"I think we can do fundamental immigration reform," he said.
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I like it. It's going to offend some people, but it was ALWAYS going to offend SOMEONE. But the harsh truth is that this is LONG overdue; like healthcare.

Part of the reason that healthcare is so screwed up, is that instead of reforming it, each administration that's been elected has put it off, and put if off, and put if off...until now it's become this blob of misery.

Same with our Southern border and the Immigration Reform. Folks, it's got to get done. No two ways about it. The border is grossly unsecured, and the Immigration policy in this country is pathetic.

Time to reform it, and it's time to get harsh on those that come here to this country to commit crime. No more sanctuary cities, and no more hand outs for them either.

It's gotta get done, and it's not going to be pretty. But it's very necessary.
 
'Those jobs are gone and they're not coming back'

President-elect Donald Trump promised to bring jobs back to America's Rust Belt by getting tough on Mexico and China.

To do that, Trump threatens to use tariffs. His argument: if he makes doing business in China and Mexico too expensive, he'll convince companies to bring their jobs back to states like Ohio, Michigan and Indiana.


But tariffs won't bring jobs back to the key states that helped Trump win, expert say.

"Those jobs are gone and they're not coming back," says Edward Alden, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations. "Tariffs won't change that equation. Tariffs will make it worse."
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The rest of the article discusses Trump using Tariffs as a possible negotiating tool with Mexico and China to secure better trade terms.
 
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Things I am most curious about: (1) will he release his taxes?, And (2) will he have a double blind trust handle his businesses
 
Sedatedfork said:
Things I am most curious about: (1) will he release his taxes?, And (2) will he have a double blind trust handle his businesses
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He needs a quintuple blind trust and to change the name of his businesses to Fareed or something arab sounding that way nobody will know his business during government negotiations.

Hopefully he'll leave office destitute like the Clintons did.
 
Paul Ryan lists Trump-era priorities as he insists Republicans have 'mandate'


Alan Yuhas in San Francisco


The wall that Donald Trump has promised to build on the US-Mexico border may in part “be some fencing”, the president-elect said in an interview released on Sunday, as the top Republican already in Washington hinted at disagreements and uncertainties for how they intend to govern together.

In an interview with CBS’s 60 Minutes, Trump said “there could be some fencing” in his proposed wall, which would span nearly 2,000 miles and cost billions. On the campaign trail he promised that the barrier would be exclusively built of “hardened concrete”, “rebar” and “steel”.

“I’m very good at this,” he told CBS. “It’s called construction.”

Also on Sunday, Paul Ryan, speaker of the House and the lawmaker poised to write sweeping new legislation for the Republican-controlled government, said he believed his party had “a mandate” to reshape healthcare, taxes, regulations and border security for the Trump administration.

Discrepancies between Trump’s promises and Ryan’s plans, however, suggested that the president-elect and his future Congress do not yet know how they will make such changes.

Ryan insisted, for instance, that Trump’s “priority” would not be the mass deportation of millions of undocumented migrants.

“That is not what our focus is, we are focused on securing the border before we get on any immigration,” Ryan told CNN’s State of the Union. “We are not planning on erecting a deportation force, Donald Trump’s not planning on that.”

Trump has repeatedly promised a “deportation force” and in August said: “Day one, my first hour in office, those people are gone!” In his CBS interview, he said he would deport as many as 3 million people.

“What we are going to do is get the people that are criminal and have criminal records, gang members, drug dealers, where a lot of these people, probably 2 million, it could be even 3 million, we are getting them out of our country or we are going to incarcerate,” Trump said.

“But we’re getting them out of our country, they’re here illegally.”

In June, Ryan broke with Trump over a proposed ban on Muslims entering the US. On Sunday, Rudy Giuliani, one of the president-elect’s advisers, said the ban would now be imposed on a country-by-country basis.

“The ban would be restricted to particular countries,” the former New York mayor told CNN, naming Syria and Yemen. “All the rest from countries that contain dangerous populations, they would be subject to ‘extreme vetting’.”

Giuliani suggested the US could work with regimes in Egypt and Pakistan for “pretty good vetting”, but not a complete ban.

Speaker Ryan also said the Republican party, which until last year largely supported Barack Obama’s free trade agenda with Asia, was not entirely behind Trump’s promises to impose high tariffs on countries such as China and Mexico.

“Not tariffs, not trade wars,” Ryan said, instead saying he wanted to “fix our taxes on border adjustments”.

He maintained that the party would find common ground with the new president, saying: “He’s trying to make America more competitive.”

Ryan echoed Trump in suggesting that the party intended to keep some parts of Barack Obama’s Affordable Care Act, while repealing the healthcare law itself.

A full repeal could mean as many as 20 million people losing health insurance. Ryan told CNN that people 26 and younger could, according to his proposals, stay on their parents’ plan, and that Congress would “need to have a solution for pre-existing conditions”. He also said the party would propose “refundable tax credits” that “would lower the cost” of coverage.

“We would have a healthcare system in America where everyone, regardless of income and position,” he said, would “get to buy what you want to buy, not what the government is making you buy”.

But Ryan refused to answer questions about whether women would still be able to have birth control covered.

“I’m not going to get into all the nitty gritty details about these things,” he said, adding, “I’m not going to get into hypotheticals about legislation that hasn’t even been written yet.”

Giuliani also insisted that Trump would have no conflicts of interest in office, even if he hands control of his sprawling, international business to three of his children, who have acted as his closest advisers.

“Once he gets into government they will not be – they will not be advising,” Giuliani said. “There will have to be a wall between them with regard to government matters.”

Ryan also expressed confidence in Trump and his entourage, which includes Steve Bannon, a former investor and far-right media chief executive whose website, Breitbart, has trafficked in openly racist, sexist, homophobic and antisemitic writing.

“I’ve never met the guy. I’ve never met Steve Bannon,” Ryan said. “So I have no concerns. I trust Donald Trump.

“I believe that Donald is going to have a great set of choices to make for staffing [the White House],” Ryan continued. “He’s a successful person, he surrounds himself with successful people. So I’m confident he’s going to do the same here.”

He denounced the perpetrators of hate crimes and racist graffiti that have been reported since Trump’s victory, saying: “They are not Republicans and we don’t want them.

“We are pluralistic, we are inclusive, and will continue to be. I really think people should put their minds at ease.”

Tens of thousands of protesters, however, have marched in cities across the US since Tuesday’s election, which Trump won in the electoral college but lost in the popular vote. The demonstrations were largely peaceful, although on Saturday police blocked off a section of Fifth Avenue in New York to keep marchers away from Trump Tower.

In Indianapolis, some people threw rocks at police and officers fired pepper balls into the crowd. In Portland on Saturday night, police made several arrests after clashes between protesters and officers in riot gear. Mayor Charlie Hayes pleaded for calm.

“As long as protests are peaceful, that’s what we can do in this country, that’s what the first amendment is all about,” Ryan said.

Trump has given no clear view about the protests. On Thursday night he said the marchers were “professional protesters, incited by the media” and “very unfair!” On Friday, he said: “Love the fact that the small groups of protesters last night have passion for our great country. We will all come together and be proud!”

Ryan has had a difficult relationship with Trump, whom he met in Washington on Thursday when the president-elect also met Obama at the White House.

Asked on Sunday about his denunciation in June of Trump’s “textbook racism”, regarding a Hispanic judge overseeing a fraud lawsuit against the businessman, Ryan told CNN: “Look, I’m not going to relitigate the past. I’m looking toward the future.”
 
SlyPokerDog said:
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Everybody lining up to use the truncheon to get their way.

I wish I was better at persuading people about why threats of force or jail against your political opponents are abhorrent in a liberal democracy, but I doubt there's any way to reach such people. The "Authoritarian Horseshoe" of politics is a real thing and pretty well entrenched at this point.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Everybody lining up to use the truncheon to get their way.

I wish I was better at persuading people about why threats of force or jail against your political opponents are abhorrent in a liberal democracy, but I doubt there's any way to reach such people. The "Authoritarian Horseshoe" of politics is a real thing and pretty well entrenched at this point.
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Denny has said bad things about Trump, I've sent in proof of this and S2 will soon be added to "the list".

 
Kellyanne Conway stepped in and saved Trump after the Republican establishment forced Paul Manafort on him but ultimately failed in their attempt to scuttle his campaign with bad advice.

She stepped up in August after the Manafort disaster with him down by double-digits and fine-tuned his message to Real Americans. She was his most effective spokesperson and completely shredded talking heads, political pundits and sellout journalists each and every time they bad-mouthed him.

She's the first woman ever to successfully manage a US Presidential Campaign.

Inauguration Day will be her 50th birthday, and she deserves a Senior position in his administration.
 
MARIS61 said:
Kellyanne Conway stepped in and saved Trump after the Republican establishment forced Paul Manafort on him but ultimately failed in their attempt to scuttle his campaign with bad advice.

She stepped up in August after the Manafort disaster with him down by double-digits and fine-tuned his message to Real Americans. She was his most effective spokesperson and completely shredded talking heads, political pundits and sellout journalists each and every time they bad-mouthed him.

She's the first woman ever to successfully manage a US Presidential Campaign.

Inauguration Day will be her 50th birthday, and she deserves a Senior position in his administration.
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Yep, and oh how it will blow the minds of the sexists.

Now if he could appoint David Clarke for a position too, that guy is legit as f'.
 
Sinobas said:
You know what Muslims think about homosexuals? The vast majority of the Muslim world things you should be punished. In some countries in fact, polls asking of homosexuality should be punished as a crime get yes responses 100% of the time. There was a imam in Orlando calling for the dealth penalty for homosexuals. It's a horrendous and hateful religion. It's easy for you to try and be sanctimonous about it while you're not suffering from it.

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What does that have to do with anything? It is unAmerican to ban a religion whether they like gay people or not. All my questions stand and you didn't answer any of them.
 
I mean Christians hate gay people too but I don't want to ban them. Do you?
 
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