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I do like Hansborough, but I think he is really a high second round value and we all know he won't last that long.
 
Is there any chance that Portland would trade Rudy and one of their high second rounders for the Nets' lottery pick and a player?
If so, who would the player have to be?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 8 2008, 04:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Is there any chance that Portland would trade Rudy and one of their high second rounders for the Nets' lottery pick and a player?
If so, who would the player have to be?</div>

Zero chance
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 8 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't get the Hansbrough love. He's mentally and physically stronger than college players. He's also older than most of them. That doesn't really translate to a good NBA player to me.</div>
I was referring to the fact that he hates to lose. I've heard he's a very intense competitor. His teammates nicknamed him Psycho.

Not sure how well he'll succeed on the NBA level, but you gotta love a guy that has a work ethic and loves to compete.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Apr 8 2008, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 8 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't get the Hansbrough love. He's mentally and physically stronger than college players. He's also older than most of them. That doesn't really translate to a good NBA player to me.</div>
I was referring to the fact that he hates to lose. I've heard he's a very intense competitor. His teammates nicknamed him Psycho.

Not sure how well he'll succeed on the NBA level, but you gotta love a guy that has a work ethic and loves to compete.
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I agree he tries like hell to win every game. He always puts in 100% effort, gets on his teammates when they aren't giving it their all, and does anything and everything he can to help his team. But I don't see his yelling and screaming affecting players like Vince Carter and Nenad Krstic to be honest. I don't see him doing all that much basketball-wise to make his team better in the NBA.
 
I would like to see us package Dalla's 2010 pick and our 2010 pick for Portland's pick at 13...
Then I would draft as follows
Nicolas Batum at 10
Chase Budinger at 13
Hasheem Thabet at 20
and Jamont Gordan at 40...

imagine that young core

PG: Devin Harris, Marcus Williams, Jamont Gordan
SG: Vince Carter, Nicolas Batum
SF: Richard Jefferson, Chase Budinger
PF: Nenad Krstic, Sean Williams
C: Josh Boone, Hasheem Thabeet
 
What if Bayless somehow got to the Nets' pick? They wouldn't do Rudy and a second rounder for Bayless and Boone or one of the Williamses? How about Gordon in the same package?
 
I wanna know why some people like international prospects like Batum, Pekovic, Danillo, etc...

I doubt anyone has seen them play, so is it just off here-say, scouting reports, and highlights?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 8 2008, 04:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Apr 8 2008, 04:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Charles @ Apr 8 2008, 03:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I don't get the Hansbrough love. He's mentally and physically stronger than college players. He's also older than most of them. That doesn't really translate to a good NBA player to me.</div>
I was referring to the fact that he hates to lose. I've heard he's a very intense competitor. His teammates nicknamed him Psycho.

Not sure how well he'll succeed on the NBA level, but you gotta love a guy that has a work ethic and loves to compete.
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I agree he tries like hell to win every game. He always puts in 100% effort, gets on his teammates when they aren't giving it their all, and does anything and everything he can to help his team. But I don't see his yelling and screaming affecting players like Vince Carter and Nenad Krstic to be honest. I don't see him doing all that much basketball-wise to make his team better in the NBA.
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I don't see him yelling at teammates, but his energy, excitement and hard work would be infectious.

Marcus will hate him. I can see Hansbrough getting excited and Marcus blowing him off.
 
i personally would have to go with
Blake Griffin with out pick
and either Nicolas Batum or Chase Budinger with the Dallas Pick
 
I should have phrased that differently. You are correct in that he doesn't yell at teammates. But he's constantly yelling and screaming. He's a real vocal person I guess.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ Apr 8 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanna know why some people like international prospects like Batum, Pekovic, Danillo, etc...

I doubt anyone has seen them play, so is it just off here-say, scouting reports, and highlights?</div>

I watched a whole bunch of unedited footage of Rudy Fernandez and I read whatever I can about him. He is so damn good.

As for others I haven't seen play meaningful games, I have to rely on what I read and whatever video I can scrounge.

It's not like the two times I saw JaVale McGee wander around half asleep gives me much information on him, either.

When I read about these players, though, I carefully consider the source before forming an opinion. Even then, I don't speak in absolutes. The scouting department of the Nets better know a lot more than I do about these players.
 
What's the point of trading up if you're going to waste a pick on Thabeet?
 
If we take Thabeet, I don't know what I'll do. But it won't be pleasant.
 
to be honest i do like CDR... but i dont think hes exactly what the nets need... LOW POST THREAT and a guy that gets boards... cuz we cant rebound... esp krstic
 
To be honest, I can see Thorn and Kiki going with Roy Hibbert with our first pick and going for guys like, Brandon Rush, Courtney Lee or Shan Foster with the Dallas pick. I agree with danxcr, I like CDR but his not a great shooter, he reminds me of Tayshuna Prince but knowing the Nets they will have an issue with his ability of add weight.

Oh breaking news, Donte Greene declares for the draft
 
I was impressed by CDR's 3 point shooting in the championship game so I checked to see how he had done during the season. While he is known for his ability to attack the basket, he's shooting 41% from long-range.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ Apr 8 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>To be honest, I can see Thorn and Kiki going with Roy Hibbert with our first pick and going for guys like, Brandon Rush, Courtney Lee or Shan Foster with the Dallas pick. I agree with danxcr, I like CDR but his not a great shooter, he reminds me of Tayshuna Prince but knowing the Nets they will have an issue with his ability of add weight.

Oh breaking news, Donte Greene declares for the draft</div>

WTF??? I'd love a link.

Wow. You know what? Good. I was getting sick of him bricking three's on SU anyways
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Good. This will open time for the other big forwards coming in.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 8 2008, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ Apr 8 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>To be honest, I can see Thorn and Kiki going with Roy Hibbert with our first pick and going for guys like, Brandon Rush, Courtney Lee or Shan Foster with the Dallas pick. I agree with danxcr, I like CDR but his not a great shooter, he reminds me of Tayshuna Prince but knowing the Nets they will have an issue with his ability of add weight.

Oh breaking news, Donte Greene declares for the draft</div>

WTF??? I'd love a link.

Wow. You know what? Good. I was getting sick of him bricking three's on SU anyways
[/bitter]

Good. This will open time for the other big forwards coming in.
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Here's the link: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Breaki...ntering-Draft-/
 
I like Donte Green, but he's a project. He's not the type of person that can really help our team next year.
 
Donte Green is someone I can see us taking even though we skipped over Hakim. I'd love for us to grab that ninth pick because it really takes off a lot of pressure on who to pick.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ Apr 8 2008, 07:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pegs @ Apr 8 2008, 06:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (d-blockrep2 @ Apr 8 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>To be honest, I can see Thorn and Kiki going with Roy Hibbert with our first pick and going for guys like, Brandon Rush, Courtney Lee or Shan Foster with the Dallas pick. I agree with danxcr, I like CDR but his not a great shooter, he reminds me of Tayshuna Prince but knowing the Nets they will have an issue with his ability of add weight.

Oh breaking news, Donte Greene declares for the draft</div>

WTF??? I'd love a link.

Wow. You know what? Good. I was getting sick of him bricking three's on SU anyways
[/bitter]

Good. This will open time for the other big forwards coming in.
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Here's the link: http://www.draftexpress.com/article/Breaki...ntering-Draft-/
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Thank you very much. I appreciate the link.


If we drafted Donte, he may give us headaches.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Apr 8 2008, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Universe @ Apr 8 2008, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Batum
CDR
Pekovic</div>

That would be SO sick, but I unfortunately think that CDR is gone before our 2nd first round pick.
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That would great , but doubtful it happens "/
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Joey FistPump @ Apr 8 2008, 04:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I would like to see us package Dalla's 2010 pick and our 2010 pick for Portland's pick at 13...
Then I would draft as follows
Nicolas Batum at 10
Chase Budinger at 13
Hasheem Thabet at 20
and Jamont Gordan at 40...

imagine that young core

PG: Devin Harris, Marcus Williams, Jamont Gordan
SG: Vince Carter, Nicolas Batum
SF: Richard Jefferson, Chase Budinger
PF: Nenad Krstic, Sean Williams
C: Josh Boone, Hasheem Thabeet</div>


I like this idea. I dont like Hasheem
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Netted @ Apr 8 2008, 01:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pinetar @ Apr 8 2008, 01:42 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You have to consider the current roster when deciding who to draft. The Nets already have five respectable big men, at least three of whom should be better next year (Krstic, Boone, and Williams). Three could leave as free agents, and the two who can't are young defensive oriented PFs. It doesn't make sense to draft a PF unless he brings something different - strong offense - or unless we're ready to give up on the players we already have.

The situation is similar at point guard. Hopefully Harris and Williams will both be effective and leave very few minutes to a third stringer. Next offseason we'll have a better idea of whether Williams is a solid rotation player or a bust. If the latter, that will be the time to get another point guard.

Having said all that, I would be happy to draft a likely future superstar at those positions. Michael Beasley and Derrick Rose are welcome here, but I don't think such a player would be available at pick #10.

At the wing we have two solid starters but not much else. Nachbar has his moments but is inconsistent and Hassell is a situational sub rather than a real rotation player. So I would use both first round picks on wings. Shooting ability and respectable defense are important; slashing and ball handling are less important.

At the first pick, Mayo and Gordon will probably be gone, so I would probably take Batum or Douglas-Roberts. At the second pick, I like Courtney Lee.</div>
Keep in mind that everyone on the current roster could be used in a trade or not re-signed. With that in mind do you want more than 1 rookie player at any particular position? If the Nets don't keep Boki I expect them to sign another free agent wing. I don't see them relying on 2 rookies to back-up that position. And as many bigs as the Nets have, none are very effective at creating offence in the low post, so I expect they may take a stab at another big. And Williams and Boone need to work on their jumpshot as well.
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If the Nets can arrange a significant trade on or before the draft, that's great, draft to fill the resulting holes in the roster. However, it's not something fans can realistically speculate about. The Nets would need to find a trade partner and we wouldn't know what either GM really thinks until they actually pull the trigger on a deal. In addition, the Nets have not added a significant player in an offseason deal since getting Jason Kidd seven years ago.

If you wait until after the draft to fill holes you may not be happy with the results. The Nets haven't had much success signing free agents lately.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 8 2008, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ Apr 8 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanna know why some people like international prospects like Batum, Pekovic, Danillo, etc...

I doubt anyone has seen them play, so is it just off here-say, scouting reports, and highlights?</div>

I watched a whole bunch of unedited footage of Rudy Fernandez and I read whatever I can about him. He is so damn good.

As for others I haven't seen play meaningful games, I have to rely on what I read and whatever video I can scrounge.

It's not like the two times I saw JaVale McGee wander around half asleep gives me much information on him, either.

When I read about these players, though, I carefully consider the source before forming an opinion. Even then, I don't speak in absolutes. The scouting department of the Nets better know a lot more than I do about these players.
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It's not you that I question.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (pinetar @ Apr 8 2008, 07:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>If the Nets can arrange a significant trade on or before the draft, that's great, draft to fill the resulting holes in the roster. However, it's not something fans can realistically speculate about. The Nets would need to find a trade partner and we wouldn't know what either GM really thinks until they actually pull the trigger on a deal. In addition, the Nets have not added a significant player in an offseason deal since getting Jason Kidd seven years ago.

If you wait until after the draft to fill holes you may not be happy with the results. The Nets haven't had much success signing free agents lately.</div>

the wildcard is that we don't know how much control Wiki has in the decision-making process. All of our assumptions may be obsolete. Who knows; maybe they are seriously contemplating making various trade offers involving their pick and/or a player. Hell, the Nets may even draft a 19-year-old for all we know.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ Apr 8 2008, 10:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ghoti @ Apr 8 2008, 06:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (THE DADDY @ Apr 8 2008, 05:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wanna know why some people like international prospects like Batum, Pekovic, Danillo, etc...

I doubt anyone has seen them play, so is it just off here-say, scouting reports, and highlights?</div>

I watched a whole bunch of unedited footage of Rudy Fernandez and I read whatever I can about him. He is so damn good.

As for others I haven't seen play meaningful games, I have to rely on what I read and whatever video I can scrounge.

It's not like the two times I saw JaVale McGee wander around half asleep gives me much information on him, either.

When I read about these players, though, I carefully consider the source before forming an opinion. Even then, I don't speak in absolutes. The scouting department of the Nets better know a lot more than I do about these players.
</div>

It's not you that I question.
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Just kind of giving people a way to be informed without just aping opinions they read on DX.
 
To be honest, my knowledge for International, even college players, is pretty limited, which is why I rely on threads like this.
 
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