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From where? What's his position? What's his eligibility?

And finally: Is he any good?
 
MickZagger said:
No. He’s been a dud at UCLA
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He's been a blocking WR at UCLA, which is what WRs typically do in Kelly's offense. With 4 guys having left for various reasons and only 1 guy in the 2022 class, Oregon is down in numbers in their WR room and adding a capable plug and play vet is a welcomed addition.

btw, the Oregon rivals site insiders relay that they like the Ducks chances with stud LT Josh Conerly. He's scheduled to visit the beginning of March.

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STOMP said:
He's been a blocking WR at UCLA, which is what WRs typically do in Kelly's offense. With 4 guys having left for various reasons and only 1 guy in the 2022 class, Oregon is down in numbers in their WR room and adding a capable plug and play vet is a welcomed addition.

btw, the Oregon rivals site insiders relay that they like the Ducks chances with stud LT Josh Conerly. He's scheduled to visit the beginning of March.

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Conerly would be a HUGE get!
 
BBert said:
From where? What's his position? What's his eligibility?

And finally: Is he any good?
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he's a WR with one year of eligibility left

he's 6'4-ish and in the 210-220 lb range

he's not a real long-ball threat but he can get down the field. His career yds/catch is 13.2. His value for the Ducks is with his size, frame, and speed he can be a possession receiver. A 3rd down threat and chain-mover
 
oldmangrouch said:
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/espn-report-wilcox-turns-down-oregon

Clueless in Eugene.
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Clueless for not offering Justin the job without strings attached despite admin's concerns or for even considering him? My read of the tea leaves is that those in charge didn't want him because of their concerns about his lack of recruiting success/focus but had to pursue him publicly to appease an in house faction. While they "offered" him the job, it was done in a manner that he'd reject so that they could check that box and then pursue someone more aligned with their vision for the program. I've also read that Justin had angered/burnt bridges with Oregon's most important supporter with his actions/public words following previous interviews at Oregon.

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oldmangrouch said:
https://www.si.com/college/cal/news/espn-report-wilcox-turns-down-oregon

Clueless in Eugene.
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Clueless because they didn’t want to hire the guy you wanted?

I agree with their decision to make sure Wilcox would hire assistants that can recruit.

College football today is all about recruiting. Way more about Jimmies and Joe’s than X’s and O’s.

The SEC doesn’t dominate college football because the coaches are master tacticians. It’s because the rosters are loaded with 5 star recruits with superior speed and strength.
 
MickZagger said:
Clueless because they didn’t want to hire the guy you wanted?

I agree with their decision to make sure Wilcox would hire assistants that can recruit.

College football today is all about recruiting. Way more about Jimmies and Joe’s than X’s and O’s.

The SEC doesn’t dominate college football because the coaches are master tacticians. It’s because the rosters are loaded with 5 star recruits with superior speed and strength.
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So we get a repeat of Cristobal: stay until he gets the job he really wants and trash the program on the way out. Recruiting means squat when the kids you recruit never put on the uniform. Everyone praised Cristobal's recruiting, but he left the cupboard barer than he found it!
 
STOMP said:
Clueless for not offering Justin the job without strings attached despite admin's concerns or for even considering him? My read of the tea leaves is that those in charge didn't want him because of their concerns about his lack of recruiting success/focus but had to pursue him publicly to appease an in house faction. While they "offered" him the job, it was done in a manner that he'd reject so that they could check that box and then pursue someone more aligned with their vision for the program. I've also read that Justin had angered/burnt bridges with Oregon's most important supporter with his actions/public words following previous interviews at Oregon.

STOMP
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So they hired a coach who only stays until a job opens up in the south? The program needs a quality coach - but they also need some stability. Will you still agree with the hire if it turns into another Taggert situation? Wilcox might not have been a great coach and he might not have stayed if he was - but at least there was the possibility of him being both. Can you honestly say the same about Lanning?
 
oldmangrouch said:
So we get a repeat of Cristobal: stay until he gets the job he really wants and trash the program on the way out. Recruiting means squat when the kids you recruit never put on the uniform. Everyone praised Cristobal's recruiting, but he left the cupboard barer than he found it!
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No he didn’t leave it barer. There’s 5 star recruits still on that roster. When he found it a lot of the recruits were guys he recruited when he was an assistant. Cristobal was incessant on running a bland/vanilla offense and was a lackluster game manager.

Unless you’re Alabama, college football coaching is a carousel every year. If you don’t win a team can hop on the carousel just as quick. The days in college sports of coaches staying at a program for 20-30 years is gone.
 
MickZagger said:
No he didn’t leave it barer. There’s 5 star recruits still on that roster. When he found it a lot of the recruits were guys he recruited when he was an assistant. Cristobal was incessant on running a bland/vanilla offense and was a lackluster game manager.

Unless you’re Alabama, college football coaching is a carousel every year. If you don’t win a team can hop on the carousel just as quick. The days in college sports of coaches staying at a program for 20-30 years is gone.
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We'll just have to agree to disagree. Between the kids who de-committed and the current players transfering I don't see a team with any chance to make a splash in the next 2-3 seasons.

Also, a coach doesn't have to stay 20 years. He just has to stay long enough to build a foundation that won't crumble the minute he leaves. I'd bet you a beer Lanning is here, at most, just long enough to put 1 good team on the field. Then he will take off as fast as if his head was on fire and his ass was catching!
 
I've been told by somebody who should know that the Ducks made a fairly toxic offer to Wilcox, deliberately, knowing he was very unlikely to accept. I've also been told that even before the offer, Wilcox had plenty of reservations about the Oregon job because of the expectations surrounding the program. It's a pressure cooker compared to the low-expectations at Cal
 
oldmangrouch said:
So they hired a coach who only stays until a job opens up in the south? The program needs a quality coach - but they also need some stability. Will you still agree with the hire if it turns into another Taggert situation?
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Of course not. But Taggart's disgraceful quick exit taught Mullins to build in huge buyouts into his HC's contract which he did with Cristobal's & now Lanning's deals. Miami paid UO 10M for Mario which seems to have been pumped into the contracts of an all-star group of young assistant coaches. Post Willie, Mario helped put the Duck program back together, showed what was possible here with recruiting & stayed 4 years before his Alma Mater came calling with an offer he couldn't refuse... I can honestly say I don't think there is any concern at all about William Jewel College (Lanning's alma mater) doing the same.

Wilcox might not have been a great coach and he might not have stayed if he was - but at least there was the possibility of him being both. Can you honestly say the same about Lanning?
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Were (relatively speaking) Rich Brooks & Mike Bellotti great coaches at Oregon? Did each stay long enough for you in Eugene despite having zero ties to the area prior to coaching there? Raising 3 young boys in Eugene while making millions just might hold some appeal for Lanning too. And again, I've read that Uncle Phil didn't want Justin & supported the Lanning hire. Clueless would be pissing that guy off.

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oldmangrouch said:
So we get a repeat of Cristobal: stay until he gets the job he really wants and trash the program on the way out. Recruiting means squat when the kids you recruit never put on the uniform. Everyone praised Cristobal's recruiting, but he left the cupboard barer than he found it!
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You are way off on your own in this assessment. Oregon should compete for the Pac 12 North title in 2022 as I expect they're the prognosticator's and & press's favorites going into the season. If they get decent QB play and don't suffer an inordinate amount of injuries to key personnel, they could easily run away with the conference championship. Unlike say USC, quality players are found throughout their roster including both lines.

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STOMP said:
Clueless for not offering Justin the job without strings attached despite admin's concerns or for even considering him? My read of the tea leaves is that those in charge didn't want him because of their concerns about his lack of recruiting success/focus but had to pursue him publicly to appease an in house faction. While they "offered" him the job, it was done in a manner that he'd reject so that they could check that box and then pursue someone more aligned with their vision for the program. I've also read that Justin had angered/burnt bridges with Oregon's most important supporter with his actions/public words following previous interviews at Oregon.

STOMP
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Justin has a good thing going at Cal and he's probably comfortable and like living in the bay area. Not as much pressure than the Oregon job either.
 
STOMP said:
Of course not. But Taggart's disgraceful quick exit taught Mullins to build in huge buyouts into his HC's contract which he did with Cristobal's & now Lanning's deals. Miami paid UO 10M for Mario which seems to have been pumped into the contracts of an all-star group of young assistant coaches. Post Willie, Mario helped put the Duck program back together, showed what was possible here with recruiting & stayed 4 years before his Alma Mater came calling with an offer he couldn't refuse... I can honestly say I don't think there is any concern at all about William Jewel College (Lanning's alma mater) doing the same.


Were (relatively speaking) Rich Brooks & Mike Bellotti great coaches at Oregon? Did each stay long enough for you in Eugene despite having zero ties to the area prior to coaching there? Raising 3 young boys in Eugene while making millions just might hold some appeal for Lanning too. And again, I've read that Uncle Phil didn't want Justin & supported the Lanning hire. Clueless would be pissing that guy off.

STOMP
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OK, using "great coach" was silly hyperbole. You raise some good points, so I guess we will see. :cheers:
 
Hoopguru said:
Justin has a good thing going at Cal and he's probably comfortable and like living in the bay area. Not as much pressure than the Oregon job either.
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In 2021 Cal had a losing season both in conference and overall. In 5 seasons at Cal, his in-conference record is 15-25. Anyone want to bet a beer that starting today Lanning lasts longer at Oregon then Wilcox does at Cal? I live in the Bay Area and know some people & they are not impressed...

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Pinwheel1 said:
Balmer (and his wife Connie who is a Duck) with a 425 million donation to the U of O for Children Behavioral Health

https://childrensbehavioralhealth.uoregon.edu/

Thank you "Aunt Connie"
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Very nice.

To put in perspective what his net worth is, someone making $100,000 and giving $450, would have made a larger percentage donation. Those numbers are insane!

I don't think he is worried about the extra Luxury Tax he got from trading for Powell and RoCo.
 
TBpup said:
Very nice.

To put in perspective what his net worth is, someone making $100,000 and giving $450, would have made a larger percentage donation. Those numbers are insane!

I don't think he is worried about the extra Luxury Tax he got from trading for Powell and RoCo.
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he doesn't "make" a hundred billion. That's his estimated net worth. He might make 1% of that in income each year. That would be only twice the amount he gave with this endowment. So that would be equivalent to somebody making $100,000 and giving away $45,000. Big difference

of course, this is almost certainly not a check for 450M. Likely just a complicated structure of initial and future grants and promises, with some conditions
 
wizenheimer said:
he doesn't "make" a hundred billion. That's his estimated net worth. He might make 1% of that in income each year. That would be only twice the amount he gave with this endowment. So that would be equivalent to somebody making $100,000 and giving away $45,000. Big difference

of course, this is almost certainly not a check for 450M. Likely just a complicated structure of initial and future grants and promises, with some conditions
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You know what the point was, and I didn't say he was making $101B but that it was his net worth. Good grief. It was to put in perspective the amount versus the net worth. Sometime the gotcha/pick at a point stuff on here gets a bit old.
 
TBpup said:
You know what the point was, and I didn't say he was making $101B but that it was his net worth. Good grief. It was to put in perspective the amount versus the net worth. Sometime the gotcha/pick at a point stuff on here gets a bit old.
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lol...take a chill pill. I wasn't trying to upstage you

I was just pointing out the difference between what somebody is worth and their income. Somebody making a 100K a year can come up with $450 quite easily. Might even have it in their wallet. Certainly in their checking account. Even a multi-billionaire like Balmer is not going to have 450M in their wallet or checking account
 
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I knew there was something that coach DanLan and I had in common!
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I forgot about it until I read OLive this morning but it's a huge summer for Eugene and the UofO. The T&F world championships are in Eugene in July

https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-...orld-championships-looms-is-oregon-ready.html

I have yet to see the new Hayward Field. This would not be the event to try and find parking anywhere around there; it will be a circus

the biggest issue may be:

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July can be absolutely gorgeous in the valley. It can also be a nightmare
 

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