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That dude at least brought some fight to Atlanta.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Pardon my ignorance, but why did Nix transfer to UO? From his POV it was a step down.
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In Nix's freshman year at Auburn the OC was current Ducks OC Kenny Dillingham... they went 9-4. The next two seasons with different Coordinators they were 12-12 combined or 21-16 overall. During those same 3 years Oregon was 24-9. Obviously from his point of view this offseason, transfering to Oregon was a step up or he wouldn't have made the move.

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oldmangrouch said:
Pardon my ignorance, but why did Nix transfer to UO? From his POV it was a step down.
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obviously, it wasn't a 'step down' in Bo's mind

the theory is that players should commit to the school; technically, that's what they do. The reality is that players commit to coaching staffs and develop relationships with individual coaches. Keep in mind thees are 17-22 year old young men. They are looking for mentors.

Nix already had a strong relationship with Oregon's OC, Kenny Dillingham. Nix talked about that. And he was obviously comfortable with the offensive scheme Dillingham was set to implement. And, importantly, he had graduated from Auburn (in 3 years). It's entirely possible the UofO has a graduate program Nix wanted

personally, I think a lot of the criticism of Nix is bogus. Take away that 2nd interception, and he played a decent game, on the road, against an incredible suffocating defense. He's not a Mariota or a Herbert, few are. But he can play at the level of a Kellen Clemmons or a Darron Thomas. And he's better than Jeremiah Masoli, who himself was a very effective Duck QB. And better than Anthony Brown who had the Ducks in the playoff hunt until the team began to realize Cristobal was going to leave, and then fell apart against Utah
 
wizenheimer said:
obviously, it wasn't a 'step down' in Bo's mind

the theory is that players should commit to the school; technically, that's what they do. The reality is that players commit to coaching staffs and develop relationships with individual coaches. Keep in mind thees are 17-22 year old young men. They are looking for mentors.

personally, I think a lot of the criticism of Nix is bogus. Take away that 2nd interception, and he played a decent game, on the road, against an incredible suffocating defense. He's not a Mariota or a Herbert, few are. But he can play at the level of a Kellen Clemmons or a Darron Thomas. And he's better than Jeremiah Masoli, who himself was a very effective Duck QB. And better than Anthony Brown who had the Ducks in the playoff hunt until the team began to realize Cristobal was going to leave, and then fell apart against Utah
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I re-watched the game for this very purpose. He actually had some really nice throws. His 2nd interception was idiotic, no excuse for it, but I have seen much better QBs than Bo do the same. No doubt the Ducks have issues to correct, but I am not that concerned with Bo.
 
STOMP said:
Butterfield was also on the verge of 5* status when he committed to Oregon Spring 2019. He then shut it down and didn't do any camps the summer following his Junior year and slowly slid down in the rankings despite having a great Senior season. If at some point this season they move on from Nix, don't be surprised if it isn't TT who gets the snaps

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Haha at that point TT should go play D2 somewhere
 
STOMP said:
In Nix's freshman year at Auburn the OC was current Ducks OC Kenny Dillingham... they went 9-4. The next two seasons with different Coordinators they were 12-12 combined or 21-16 overall. During those same 3 years Oregon was 24-9. Obviously from his point of view this offseason, transfering to Oregon was a step up or he wouldn't have made the move.

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If he transfered to be reunited with a coach he had bonded with, that makes sense.
 
wizenheimer said:
obviously, it wasn't a 'step down' in Bo's mind

the theory is that players should commit to the school; technically, that's what they do. The reality is that players commit to coaching staffs and develop relationships with individual coaches. Keep in mind thees are 17-22 year old young men. They are looking for mentors.

Nix already had a strong relationship with Oregon's OC, Kenny Dillingham. Nix talked about that. And he was obviously comfortable with the offensive scheme Dillingham was set to implement. And, importantly, he had graduated from Auburn (in 3 years). It's entirely possible the UofO has a graduate program Nix wanted

personally, I think a lot of the criticism of Nix is bogus. Take away that 2nd interception, and he played a decent game, on the road, against an incredible suffocating defense. He's not a Mariota or a Herbert, few are. But he can play at the level of a Kellen Clemmons or a Darron Thomas. And he's better than Jeremiah Masoli, who himself was a very effective Duck QB. And better than Anthony Brown who had the Ducks in the playoff hunt until the team began to realize Cristobal was going to leave, and then fell apart against Utah
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Just to be clear, the original point here was more about TT than Nix. Brown and Nix may be perfectly adequate, average QBs - but TT was supposed to be more than that. If the coaching staff sees him as an inferior option to Nix, that is discouraging. A real blue-chip prospect doesn't get pushed aside by average players.
 
oldmangrouch said:
Just to be clear, the original point here was more about TT than Nix. Brown and Nix may be perfectly adequate, average QBs - but TT was supposed to be more than that. If the coaching staff sees him as an inferior option to Nix, that is discouraging. A real blue-chip prospect doesn't get pushed aside by average players.
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by far, the widest variance, by position, between a generic recruit's rating and his performance in college is at QB. There are just too many variables with QB's especially on the mental side of the game. A QB can have significant physical tools, but if he can't substantially increase his recognition and processing speed, he's not going to be effective. I've been told that's the big problem Ty Thompson has
 
Semi-serious question.

How do you maintain your fandom when everyone involved in the sport - from coaches to media to the people who rate prospects - are spewing a constant stream of bull dada?

As a fan I want to believe - to have hope. OTOH, I have reached the conclusion that hype is for losers. The more public praise a coach or player draws, the less I believe in them. The ones who are actually good at their job are almost invisible because they don't need to brag about it. (I will refrain from the obvious comparison to politics!)

As the meme says "change my mind."
 
oldmangrouch said:
Just to be clear, the original point here was more about TT than Nix. Brown and Nix may be perfectly adequate, average QBs - but TT was supposed to be more than that.
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Yes Thompson was projected by the recruiting sites to be more then an adequate/average QB, but so were Nix and Butters. Then again, there are 32 starting QB gigs in the NFL, 2 of which are manned by former Ducks who weren't elite prospects. Hell, Tom Brady didn't start his Senior year at Michigan and was a 6th round pick. While the recruiting sites are proven more right then wrong, their projections are really just educated best guesses and projecting QBs is especially difficult... even for NFL GMs

TT has obvious elite tools (size, athleticism, big arm) that stand out, but as guys go up levels of competition, succeeding at QB is more and more about whats between the ears. Fwiw, posters on the rivals site who claim to be program insiders relay that Thompson currently sits #3 on the depth chart.

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wizenheimer said:
by far, the widest variance, by position, between a generic recruit's rating and his performance in college is at QB. There are just too many variables with QB's especially on the mental side of the game. A QB can have significant physical tools, but if he can't substantially increase his recognition and processing speed, he's not going to be effective. I've been told that's the big problem Ty Thompson has
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If Thompson's read and progression speed is that bad, then the Ducks blew it on him. Nix has terrible field vision. Play Thompson and see if he figures it out, cause Nix ain't taking the Ducks anywhere but .500 at best.
 
tykendo said:
If Thompson's read and progression speed is that bad, then the Ducks blew it on him. Nix has terrible field vision. Play Thompson and see if he figures it out, cause Nix ain't taking the Ducks anywhere but .500 at best.
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Nix is better than Anthony Brown and Brown took the Ducks to 10-4, and that was with the team realizing that Cristobal was leaving and essentially gave up on the season

Oregon got curb-stomped by Georgia; no argument. But there is a lot of over-reaction to one game; and way too much blame is being directed at Nix.

tykendo said:
And go out and get a dominating force at QB this recruiting season.
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that's already done after Dante Moore committed (assuming the commitment holds). Several recruiting sites rate him as the #1 or #2 QB in the nation. And the QB who gets the nod on some sites is Arch Manning, and a lot of people feel he should not be rated that high, and wouldn't be if not for his name and family

https://www.si.com/college/2022/08/...ollege-football-recruit-oregon-top-proscpects
 
Fairly-Hard said:
Might be a bit early to have this opinion.
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His line gave him time against Georgia, and he rarely surveyed the field. His arm strength is suspect too. Not a lot of zoom on his throws. He may very well look great against EWU. EWU is a good program, but not at the Ducks level. But the Ducks success relies on him being good against the likes of Georgia & Utah, Washington & Stanford. I see the Beaver's moving up. Being a top QB is about throwing your receivers open, and hitting them in tight spaces. Not just when their college open. I don't see Nix being that guy. I think it's sad Thompson can't even sniff the field. I'd rather see what Thompson can do , even if he fails, then see what an ordinary Nix does.
 
Just watched the Dante Moore commitment video. Awesome. Blessings for a bright, and hopefully, meteoric future at Oregon.
 
AldoTrapani said:
Let me know when he actually signs.
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2nd time you've made this question/comment... December 21 is early signing day when most football prospects sign.

Google could be your friend if you just need to find a date but if following the ups and downs of recruiting is too much drama for you, why not spare the rest of us who enjoy it?

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I agree. I like Mario, but he was so vanilla with one of the greatest talents at QB(Herbert), the Ducks have ever had. Instead of utilizing his Manning-esqe surveying skills in the pocket, he had him running stupid RPO"s.
 
Dante Moore better live up to this hype. And contract…

Can’t afford to have another Thompson.

Oh and the Ducks better start recruiting O lineman. Not too many big time recruits coming up the pipelines.
 
MickZagger said:
Dante Moore better live up to this hype. And contract…

Can’t afford to have another Thompson.

Oh and the Ducks better start recruiting O lineman. Not too many big time recruits coming up the pipelines.
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I'm a little surprised Thompson hasn't entered the transfer portal. Is he being promised something?
 
its really smokey here. I think they should cancel it.
 
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