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[SlyPokerDog]

I don't think anybody in here has suggested any kids should be prevented from playing sports.

But we already are. Look at the huge expenses and problems with club sports and traveling teams in the offseason. Look at how many fewer multi-sports athletes we have in high school now.

 

[Phatguysrule]

But we already are. Look at the huge expenses and problems with club sports and traveling teams in the offseason. Look at how many fewer multi-sports athletes we have in high school now.

But there's no requirement to be in club sports or traveling teams.

There were summers when we didn't have that as an option. So my kids called some of their friends and we put together some teams.

We should definitely have better access to the fields and courts that our tax dollars pay for, IMO.

But what are you suggesting?

 

[SlyPokerDog]

But there's no requirement to be in club sports or traveling teams.

There were summers when we didn't have that as an option. So my kids called some of their friends and we put together some teams.

We should definitely have better access to the fields and courts that our tax dollars pay for, IMO.

But what are you suggesting?

Some kids are playing far too many games and tournaments in the offseason due to their involvement with club teams. Maybe yours didn't have that problem but some boys club teams are playing 4 and 5 games a week.

Anyway, that's a discussion best for another thread.

My point being is we need to be looking at ways to make sports more inclusive than exclusive.

 

[Phatguysrule]

Some kids are playing far too many games and tournaments in the offseason due to their involvement with club teams. Maybe yours didn't have that problem but some boys club teams are playing 4 and 5 games a week.

Anyway, that's a discussion best for another thread.

My point being is we need to be looking at ways to make sports more inclusive than exclusive.

Yeah, my daughters played two games per day every weekend.

The unfortunate part is that's where the money is. People show up and pay to watch games.

But kids get better in practice. In training. Unfortunately our public schools don't give us access to courts. Are they charge $50 to $100 per hour. Because club teams will pay it.

I agree, there should be levels for every player who wants to play. And it's possible to do. I suggested that to our high school feeder program many times.

And not just being on the team, but getting time on the court in a competitive atmosphere.

But that would have taken work...

 

[SlyPokerDog]

Yeah, my daughters played two games per day every weekend.

IMO, that is too much.

Some tournaments that's nessesary, but not every weekend day.

 

[Phatguysrule]

IMO, that is too much.

Some tournaments that's nessesary, but not every weekend day.

It's alot. About 1.5 hrs per day of activity. But its hard work, for sure.

 

[crandc]

The reason so many voted for Trump over trans athletes was a $250 million campaign bombarding airwaves and social media to convince voters the biggest danger to girls and women is trans athletes. People who two years earlier had never heard of trans athletes were positively foaming at the mouth with rage over this threat to their daughters and American womanhood. And only electing a rapist could protect us.
Not new.
A few years ago Travis County, Texas voted to repeal a civil rights ordinance that included gender identity. The campaign began after a high school girl was raped in school restroom by her former boyfriend to punish her for breaking up with him. The boy had raped another girl for same reason. Nothing to do with trans people. But a scare campaign began that any man could enter women's restroom or locker room merely by saying he's really a woman.
Millions of dollars spent campaigning against marriage equality with scare stories it would legalize polygamy, child marriage and sex trafficking in guise of marriage. Every time the Bush administration was in political trouble they raised terror threat level and put anti marriage equality in ballot. Also keep gays out of military because gay men will look at straight men in shower and servicewomen will be raped by lesbians.
The exact same people who fought marriage equality and now fight trans rights a generation earlier killed the Equal Rights Amendment with a campaign that ERA would legalize gay marriage and rape.
People who never met a women's right they didn't oppose and never cared about women's sports became the supposed defenders of women against rape whenever it involved queers.
Or men of color. Trump began his first campaign saying Mexico sent rapists. Former Republican governor of Maine said drug dealers, and you know what color they are, were raping little white girls. During Civil Rights movement, white supremacists insisted we need segregation to protect pure Southern womanhood from hordes of Black rapists
This big time opposition to very small number of trans athletes was not organic. It was bought and paid for by Elon and other billionaires to put their boy in office.

 

[barfo]

See Canadian women's powerlifting. Nobody's getting hurt. But it's completely destroyed any semblance of competition in the sport.

It's become a joke. A mockery.

And we were all such huge fans of Canadian women's powerlifting before this.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

And we were all such huge fans of Canadian women's powerlifting before this.

barfo

Many people were. Many more are now aware.

That's what people are concerned about happening to their sports.

 

[barfo]

There is a MASSIVE difference in physicality. My daughter is a D1 athlete who has, no joke competed against players in college who are now on the US National team and are professionals all over the world and handled herself just fine. During Christmas break she was scrimmaging against pretty much the best HS boys in the state…..these dudes were imposing. People don’t realize that. just like those HS hoopers that were dunking all over those WNBA players in scrimmages…..it’s a natural fact and you know this. Individual sports where there is no contact and chance of injury….no issues with it. Sports where they are out there banging on each other…..Just don’t like it and simply because I don’t want my child hurt.

Sports are dangerous. People sometimes die, and often get permanent physical damage. If that's something you worry a lot about, maybe don't encourage your kids to play contact sports. It's not actually a requirement.

Pretty sure your kid is statistically VASTLY more likely to be hurt by someone who isn't trans than someone who is.

barfo

 

[Phatguysrule]

Sports are dangerous. People sometimes die, and often get permanent physical damage. If that's something you worry a lot about, maybe don't encourage your kids to play contact sports. It's not actually a requirement.

Pretty sure your kid is statistically VASTLY more likely to be hurt by someone who isn't trans than someone who is.

barfo

But it's different for men and women. For example, women and girls are up to 8 times more likely to tear their ACL. Because men's bodies and women's bodies are different. Their hip angles are different. Their knees are different.

Going further, men have elongated musculature. Heavier bones. Larger capacity hearts and larger capacity lungs.

When you watch men and women play contact sports together the difference is clear. Men can go all out 100% and be a little bit crazy when it's all men on the court.

But if they do that when there are women or girls on the court one of the women is very likely to get hurt.

This is no longer a risk. It's a certainty.

 

[THE HCP]

The three sports i've seen just by searching recently included powerlifting, track and field and swimming.

The boogeyman would like you to believe that cis women are getting abused on the daily because of this.

This feels an awful lot like when people would complain about how they might miss out on a college admission because they aren't a person of color.

Whats more helpful is being a part of a discussion for a solution where one shares their concerns instead of writing off an entire population and excluding them.

I don’t care about winning or losing or if it’s “fair” is my thing. I care simply about physicality and possible injury. That’s my ONLY concern.

 

[julius]

There is a MASSIVE difference in physicality. My daughter is a D1 athlete who has, no joke competed against players in college who are now on the US National team and are professionals all over the world and handled herself just fine. During Christmas break she was scrimmaging against pretty much the best HS boys in the state…..these dudes were imposing. People don’t realize that. just like those HS hoopers that were dunking all over those WNBA players in scrimmages…..it’s a natural fact and you know this. Individual sports where there is no contact and chance of injury….no issues with it. Sports where they are out there banging on each other…..Just don’t like it and simply because I don’t want my child hurt.

So here's an idea...don't scrimmage against men then?

And like I said, the people who are trans athletes aren't your 6'5" built like a linebacker who wants to dominate women's sports.

And look at Maya Lesnar, should she not compete in certain sports because she's build like a truck and could probably bench press school bus?

 

[THE HCP]

So here's an idea...don't scrimmage against men then?

And like I said, the people who are trans athletes aren't your 6'5" built like a linebacker who wants to dominate women's sports.

And look at Maya Lesnar, should she not compete in certain sports because she's build like a truck and could probably bench press school bus?

Not worried about the scrimmages, the guys let up while playing the girls. I’m talking about NCAA competition. You can’t just sit out a game. Swimming/running/archery….. more power to ‘em.

 

[julius]

Not worried about the scrimmages, the guys let up while playing the girls. I’m talking about NCAA competition. You can’t just sit out a game. Swimming/running/archery….. more power to ‘em.

Again. .000002% does not warrant this much attention.

 

[JfizzleBlazer]

Again. .000002% does not warrant this much attention.

The crazy thing is the people screaming the loudest seem to be the people that havent even come across this happening to their situation yet. They are just scared that it "might" happen.

Meanwhile, people are being hurt for real in other places because of the current administration.

But sure. This issue is why I'll continue to vote for whats happening in Minnesota.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

• Athena Del Rosario (UC-Santa Cruz): A goalkeeper who competed for the UC-Santa Cruz women's soccer team for multiple seasons before coming out publicly, according to OutSports.

• Quinn (Duke University): While identifying as nonbinary/trans, they played for the Duke women's soccer team, becoming a standout player, before representing Canada in the Olympics, reports The Duke Chronicle.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

• Athena Del Rosario (UC-Santa Cruz): A goalkeeper who competed for the UC-Santa Cruz women's soccer team for multiple seasons before coming out publicly, according to OutSports.

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• Quinn (Duke University): While identifying as nonbinary/trans, they played for the Duke women's soccer team, becoming a standout player, before representing Canada in the Olympics, reports The Duke Chronicle.

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Those are the only two examples of transgirls playing college soccer.

 

[julius]

Those are the only two examples of transgirls playing college soccer.

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