Dwight Jaynes vs Mo Williams, the war is on! (1 Viewer)

[oldmangrouch]

Seems to me folks are over-thinking this.

1) Mo is the best offensive weapon on the bench. Many nights he is productive enough you can over-look his weak defense.

2) When his offense isn't clicking, he needs to sit.

3) The Blazers don't have that luxury.

4) Nothing is going to change unless/until somebody else (CJ ?) wins Stotts' confidence.

 

[OneLifeToLive]

LMAO! He blocked you on twitter, eh? What did you do to have that happen?

I was basically trumpeting the same thing he was saying revolving around the team but he didn't like my attitude.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

I was basically trumpeting the same thing he was saying revolving around the team but he didn't like my attitude.

It's really the only way to combat distasteful comments on the internet. But in Jaynes case, he strikes me as someone who blocks anyone who is critical of him whom he doesn't also write about. He's beyond critical of Portland. I've heard fewer slights from the National media, and dare I say Faker fans? (ok, I MIGHT be a bit off with the latter. lol)

 

[BrianFromWA]

I've disagreed multiple times with him on Twitter, and he generally tries to fight back in his own way, which doesn't include blocking but is usually unsuccessful.

 

[BBert]

Mo 1; Dwight 0

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

I've disagreed multiple times with him on Twitter, and he generally tries to fight back in his own way, which doesn't include blocking but is usually unsuccessful.

So you're saying he can't afford to lose any more followers. lol

 

[Strenuus]

Anyone hear him tonight? He probably said "No Mo williams talk tonight" in the prep time.

 

[Boob-No-More]

Pwned!!!

BNM

 

[PtldPlatypus]

MOwned!!!

BNM

FTFY

 

[mook]

Mo is among the league leaders in fouls per minute.
He shoots at a 40%fg, 35%3fg, which is pretty bad compared to the rest of our shooters. You can live with it for a bench guy, though, especially when he's providing decent assist numbers.
He has a PER of 12.1, which is almost exactly what Sergio Rodriguez' career PER was. And the same WS/48 Sergio had. On a good bench, the guy with a 12 PER usually gets 5-10mpg, or he's a backup center who is supposed to deliver hard fouls.
Mo is not really a good player. There's a damned good reason he's played on 6 different teams, and next year it'll be 7. He needs to be the 8th or 9th man on the team, not 6th. That he's even discussed as a good bench player goes to show how long it's been since Portland had a real bench.
My hope is CJ continues to impress and Mo is relegated to being a 15mpg backup PG exclusively, which is probably his best role on this team.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

Mo is among the league leaders in fouls per minute.
He shoots at a 40%fg, 35%3fg, which is pretty bad compared to the rest of our shooters. You can live with it for a bench guy, though, especially when he's providing decent assist numbers.
He has a PER of 12.1, which is almost exactly what Sergio Rodriguez' career PER was. And the same WS/48 Sergio had. On a good bench, the guy with a 12 PER usually gets 5-10mpg, or he's a backup center who is supposed to deliver hard fouls.
Mo is not really a good player. There's a damned good reason he's played on 6 different teams, and next year it'll be 7. He needs to be the 8th or 9th man on the team, not 6th. That he's even discussed as a good bench player goes to show how long it's been since Portland had a real bench.
My hope is CJ continues to impress and Mo is relegated to being a 15mpg backup PG exclusively, which is probably his best role on this team.

Agree, CJ is going to be 6th man next year and make Mo expendable. If MO opts out then he is gone. If truly wanted to stay here then he wouldn't opt out and then he would get one more year with this team he loves.

 

[HailBlazers]

Mo is gone huh?

We'll see about that.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

It's Jaynes' M.O. (no pun intended) to talk shit about Blazer players for attention. He posted this back on July 4th 2013.

Lopez has moved up to 3rd in the entire NBA in offensive rebounds. I've always believed, and I think in general it is widely accepted, that offensive rebounding is a better barometer for rebounding prowess.

Portland is currently ranked 2nd in the entire NBA in rebounds per game, and 3rd in offensive rebounding. The "Lopez Effect."

 

[riverman]

Intangibles, something these guys like Jaynes never factor in. Mo hits game changing shots all the time, shots that get us back into games. He has a knack for impacting the game in ways stats will never show, same as Rolo...altered shots just don't get stats. If you don't like a player, that's one thing, but if you like a team and a system that's working, that's where I hang out. Scientific method has shown that this TEAM is winning most of their games. Mo changes the tempo when the team gets bogged down. That's exactly what I want from a 6 man coming off the bench. If every individual player on the squad went under the stat microscope night after night we'd blow up the team after every loss. Fire the coach and trade all the starters for draft picks. Been there, done that....find some joy this season, it's been a long time since we've had something this good watch on the court

 

[BillBrasky]

And Dwight answered back -

Dwight Jaynes ‏@dwightjaynes
@mowilliams Manu Ginobili, Reggie Jackson, Ramon Sessions, Andre miller, Darren Collison, Jarret Jack, Shaun Livingston, Evans... No mo room

Ginobli and Evans are not a point guards. Jackson and Livingston are no where close to Mo's level. Miller from five years ago comes close. Sessions and Jack are in the conversation but that's about it.

I also don't see how Mo doesn't create shots for others any more than himself. He has a higher assist per 36 minutes than both Lillard and Batum.

 

[Draco]

Lopez has moved up to 3rd in the entire NBA in offensive rebounds. I've always believed, and I think in general it is widely accepted, that offensive rebounding is a better barometer for rebounding prowess.

Totally disagree. Teams have different concepts in how and when they go for offensive rebounds. They can give your opponents fast breaks. Most of the better defensive teams are poor offensive rebounding clubs.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I would trade Mo for Reggie Jackson in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, OKC wouldn't even with some other dudes thrown in.

Ginobli and Evans are not a point guards. Jackson and Livingston are no where close to Mo's level. Miller from five years ago comes close. Sessions and Jack are in the conversation but that's about it.

I also don't see how Mo doesn't create shots for others any more than himself. He has a higher assist per 36 minutes than both Lillard and Batum.

 

[Strenuus]

I would trade Mo for Reggie Jackson in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, OKC wouldn't even with some other dudes thrown in.

Jackson would be a great get... but we would lose that experience that Mo does bring. He does have good mo bad mo... but Jackson could/would be just as frustrating with the learning curve.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Jeez, I can't believe I haven't said this yet:

Mmmmmmmnnnturrrrtle...

 

[PapaG]

Agree, CJ is going to be 6th man next year and make Mo expendable. If MO opts out then he is gone. If truly wanted to stay here then he wouldn't opt out and then he would get one more year with this team he loves.

McCollum needs to stay healthy, though. He's missed large chunks of his last two seasons of basketball.

On the positive side, Lillard has stayed healthy after letting his foot issues have time to rest.

 

[PapaG]

I would trade Mo for Reggie Jackson in a heartbeat. Unfortunately, OKC wouldn't even with some other dudes thrown in.

Reggie Jackson shoots 32% from 3, and has fewer assists than Mo Williams. His 23 USG rate scares me. Mo is only at 20.4.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Totally disagree. Teams have different concepts in how and when they go for offensive rebounds. They can give your opponents fast breaks. Most of the better defensive teams are poor offensive rebounding clubs.

Rebounding prowess, not defensive prowess, AND individual rebounding, not team rebounding.

 

[Blazer Fanatic]

Jackson would be a great get... but we would lose that experience that Mo does bring. He does have good mo bad mo... but Jackson could/would be just as frustrating with the learning curve.

And Portland would have the same issue as OKC, and lose the game because he didn't want to give the ball up to Lillard or LA in crunch time.