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He has had some good games, even a good stretch once. I hope they have whatever coach he works with sit down with him and watch those games; maybe it would build his confidence and remind what he does when he is successful.
 
HailBlazers said:
And it all comes down to his shot. Needs the best shooting coach available in the worst way.
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His feel for the game is really lacking. I don't think it's just a matter of not making shots. He doesn't understand angles and timing. He can't shoot a layup with his left hand. He doesn't need a shooting coach as much as he needs and elementary school coach.
 
HailBlazers said:
And it all comes down to his shot. Needs the best shooting coach available in the worst way.
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Honestly I had some real concerns about the whole story where he reached out to Dame. It was an odd question to ask.

"How do you deal with the missing shots" or something along those lines. To me it was a red flag because shooters don't worry about that shit. They can't. You have to have a short memory. It was an indication of confidence issues and it has only seemed to be more and more clear that he's having self-confidence issues. That was never a problem with Dame.

I found it - “Yo, Damian Lillard. I’m Scoot Henderson. I was just wondering if you can give me some free game on shooting the next shot, and not worry about the last one?” Scoot was struggling to let mistakes go, berating himself, trying so hard to be perfect. Trying to be great."
https://www.blazersedge.com/2023/6/...il-blazers-pg-damian-lillard-instagram-advice
 
PCmor7 said:
His feel for the game is really lacking. I don't think it's just a matter of not making shots. He doesn't understand angles and timing. He can't shoot a layup with his left hand. He doesn't need a shooting coach as much as he needs and elementary school coach.
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he literally finished a lay up and 1 with his left hand last night
 
Natebishop3 said:
Honestly I had some real concerns about the whole story where he reached out to Dame. It was an odd question to ask.

"How do you deal with the missing shots" or something along those lines. To me it was a red flag because shooters don't worry about that shit. They can't. You have to have a short memory. It was an indication of confidence issues and it has only seemed to be more and more clear that he's having self-confidence issues. That was never a problem with Dame.

I found it - “Yo, Damian Lillard. I’m Scoot Henderson. I was just wondering if you can give me some free game on shooting the next shot, and not worry about the last one?” Scoot was struggling to let mistakes go, berating himself, trying so hard to be perfect. Trying to be great."
https://www.blazersedge.com/2023/6/...il-blazers-pg-damian-lillard-instagram-advice
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That's not a confidence thing, it's a perfectionist thing. And Scoot doesn't seem to be suffering from confidence issues in games. If anything, he's over-confident in his iffy shooting abilities, letting it fly instead of driving to the hoop.
 
blazedanugz said:
he literally finished a lay up and 1 with his left hand last night
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It's a confidence thing. He has all the tools. He needs good coaching and time.

I don't know if that will turn him into a star, But IMO he can definitely be a quality point guard in the NBA with the right guidance and opportunity.
 
PCmor7 said:
We're at a point now where we should hope Scoot's at least that good.
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Minor I believe came into the league when he was 21, I’ll give Scoot a little more time.
 
jlprk said:
Each month, his minutes per game have dropped, AND his effectiveness points per minute have dropped.

Oct
https://www.hoopsstats.com/basketba.../players/scoot-henderson/profile/25/25/422/23
Nov
https://www.hoopsstats.com/basketba.../players/scoot-henderson/profile/25/25/422/24
Dec
https://www.hoopsstats.com/basketba.../players/scoot-henderson/profile/25/25/422/25
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That's because of the great situation he is in and the incredible developmental staff here in Portland.
 
handiman said:
That's not a confidence thing, it's a perfectionist thing. And Scoot doesn't seem to be suffering from confidence issues in games. If anything, he's over-confident in his iffy shooting abilities, letting it fly instead of driving to the hoop.
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It's hard to drive to the hoop when his defender plays him only to drive; they don't have to worry about him shooting the three at all. Or really even worry about him pulling up for a mid-range.
 
They maybe should send him back to the G-league again. They do this in baseball all the time; players hit a rough stretch and they send them back to Triple A to get their timing and confidence back. Then Grant could play more guard and Deni could finally get the minutes he deserves.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
They maybe should send him back to the G-league again. They do this in baseball all the time; players hit a rough stretch and they send them back to Triple A to get their timing and confidence back. Then Grant could play more guard and Deni could finally get the minutes he deserves.
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Of course they would need to send a coach down there with him who knows what he is doing.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
It's hard to drive to the hoop when his defender plays him only to drive; they don't have to worry about him shooting the three at all. Or really even worry about him pulling up for a mid-range.
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He doesn't seem to have a problem getting into the paint when he wants to. He's already one of the best PG's we've ever had when it comes to drawing the rim protector and throwing the oop.
 
I think if Scoot were going to be good, we'd be seeing a growth curve by now, but there is absolutely no growth curve by any metric. He's going to be turning 21 in a few weeks, has a season and half under his belt. Age excuse isn't enough to cover the depths at which he is currently.

The Blazers should try to salvage something from him via trade and move on. Banton is a better player on both ends.
 
handiman said:
He doesn't seem to have a problem getting into the paint when he wants to. He's already one of the best PG's we've ever had when it comes to drawing the rim protector and throwing the oop.
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But he's an awful finisher, and many of his turnovers come from drive attempts.
 
handiman said:
That's irrelevant to what I was responding to.
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Yeah it does, if he gets to the hoop but sucks at finishing and it causes turnovers, then what does it matter?

It's like talking about what a good driver your grandma is up to the point when she drives the car onto the sidewalk.
 
beast blazer said:
I think if Scoot were going to be good, we'd be seeing a growth curve by now, but there is absolutely no growth curve by any metric. He's going to be turning 21 in a few weeks, has a season and half under his belt. Age excuse isn't enough to cover the depths at which he is currently.

The Blazers should try to salvage something from him via trade and move on. Banton is a better player on both ends.
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Yeah I agree we would've seen glimpses by now. Sharpe while still not being a good player yet has had many such glimpses since his very first game. Ant first two years he was raw but had far more impressive games than Scoot.

The issues with Scoot aren't tweaks or improvements we typically see players make after 2 years. Shooting 27% doesn't turn into a good shooter. Bad finishing inside doesn't become a strength. Turnover passes that are 7 feet from a teammate don't become accurate. He might improve all of these, but he's just so terrible at them now even with significant improvements he still won't be a good NBA player.

I mean I'm fine exploring the trade market but I can't imagine there are any decent offers so likely just will be best to hang onto Scoot and hope we see some improvements at the end of this season.

Next big decision will likely be October of next year if we consider cutting Scoot 4th year option on his rookie contract to save that $12 million.
 
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