Enes Kanter to Portland

[TBpup]

Sure. That makes a bunch of sense as a comeback. Take that shit somewhere else if you can't even enjoy the good things that happen for this team.

I don't think I've seen anywhere that someone didn't think each of these moves was a net positive. They got 2 who will be rotation players for either nothing or players who were out of the rotation. They also got 'potential' for Caleb who was never going to see court time. So 3 'positive' moves...but at the same time, that doesn't necessarily meant they improved us even one round in the Playoffs.

So if we are better but it didn't make a significant difference, I can see why some don't think it's that big of a deal, even if every move was a 'positive'.

 

[wizenheimer]

Whatever. So now you want to say shedding salary and adding future draft picks. Dallas picked up a great player that can't play but i will agree they made a good move. If you think going full rebuild like the Knicks was better then i can't even begin to debate you. New Orleans???? Have you not even been around for the last month?

New Orleans shed salary, added five second round picks, is in the process of improving this years 1st round pick (tanking), and didn't let AD and his agent railroad them into a bad trade. Yeah...I've been paying attention, and that was an effective deadline for them

meanwhile, Portland added two backups for a run at the playoffs (Skal in unlikely to help or play); backups that will probably be a bit better than those whose minutes they replace, but it's debatable they are needle-movers in the playoffs. And it seems pretty likely that neither will be re-signed.

besides all that, this discussion was generated by a post asking if Olshey should be EOTY for trading for Hood and signing Kanter...so, any later exaggeration seems justified

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

New Orleans shed salary, added five second round picks, is in the process of improving this years 1st round pick (tanking), and didn't let AD and his agent railroad them into a bad trade. Yeah...I've been paying attention, and that was an effective deadline for them

meanwhile, Portland added two backups for a run at the playoffs (Skal in unlikely to help or play); backups that will probably be a bit better than those whose minutes they replace, but it's debatable they are needle-movers in the playoffs. And it seems pretty likely that neither will be re-signed.

besides all that, this discussion was generated by a post asking if Olshey should be EOTY for trading for Hood and signing Kanter...so, any later exaggeration seems justified

2nd round picks don’t mean much if you don’t turn them into contributing players. I’d rather be in our position of lightly improving our chances as a player team than a lotto team banking on a handful of 2nd rounders turning into something meaningful while my star player is looking for his way out.

I don’t know much about the success rate of 2nd rounders, but I’d have to think it’s not high (though Portland seems to have a higher success rate than most in recent years).

 

[Fishlips]

Sweet Baby Jesus.
Rodney Hood waived his no-trade so he could come to PORTLAND? And Enes Kanter was pursued by the Thunder, Rockets, Celtics, and the LAKERS and he CHOSE PORTLAND?
I know we're not talking about superstars, but damn, to me they both feel like perfect fits. Can't remember the last time I liked a Blazers team this much. Beer:30 came early tonight!
Hell, I'm even loving the video I've watched on Skal. And the vid of Simons dunking was unreal. And Trent could be a crowd favorite.
I can picture Kanter and Nurk pissing off the Warriors in the playoffs. Collins checking in for a demoralizing block. Seth hitting 3 after 3 after 3. Dame taking over. Layman having the Warriors shaking their heads after his umpteenth alley-oop. We now have FIVE 7 footers. And our team is So. Damn. Young.
I'm sure it's been covered already but Dame, Hood, Layman, Kanter, and Nurk could share the floor? All guys that like it here? Sure, we'd regularly see games where the other team puts up a buck forty, but as long as we're at 141, I'm good.
If, if, IF we make it to the WCF's and make some noise, any chance we'd be able to keep the team largely intact? (I know nothing about the financial side of the NBA.)

 

[Binx]

It's not that I don't like it - Kanter is now our 2nd/3rd best bench player (behind Jake & maybe Hood). I just don't really get the point. We should be trying to develop Collins. And Meyers is FINALLY playing semi-decently . . . No problem with Kanter, just don't understand what the team is trying to do.

Really? It’s pretty clear what the Blazers are trying to do. They’re trying to upgrade wherever they can, in any way they can, to build a team around Lillard that has a chance to compete for a title. I don’t know if Kanter is the answer, but I know he’s an upgrade over Collins and Leonard and I applaud Olshey for doing what he can to improve the team.

 

[kjironman1]

New Orleans shed salary, added five second round picks, is in the process of improving this years 1st round pick (tanking), and didn't let AD and his agent railroad them into a bad trade. Yeah...I've been paying attention, and that was an effective deadline for them

meanwhile, Portland added two backups for a run at the playoffs (Skal in unlikely to help or play); backups that will probably be a bit better than those whose minutes they replace, but it's debatable they are needle-movers in the playoffs. And it seems pretty likely that neither will be re-signed.

besides all that, this discussion was generated by a post asking if Olshey should be EOTY for trading for Hood and signing Kanter...so, any later exaggeration seems justified

EOTY??? Really? Exaggerate much? New Orleans is a mess. Sorry you can't see that. Tanking and 5 second rounders. Sure that would be great. I'm sure you would be all for that if Olshey did it. This back and forth is done. Nothing can be gained here. Enjoy the rest of the season.

 

[dviss1]

Even if you don't agree with it, you don't think a valid, reasonable argument can be made that Kanter is a better basketball player than Duckworth was?

No, so just FUCK OFF.

 

[Propagandist]

There was nothing rude Prop. This is a pattern with you. I have read it for years now. Thus the "Used to complaining" statement.

It's rude because it's untrue. It is also rude, after I've gone out of my way to explain my perspective, to not only discount the validity of my opinion by saying I am conditioned to complain but also not even considering what I'm saying.

 

[Orion Bailey]

oh for fucks sake

Not sure if thats approval or disappointment??

Another thing Kanter does is get under opposing teams skin. He has a knack for pissing other teams off. That might come in handy.

So does Nurk. Man, this could get entertaining going down the stretch as things heat up.

 

[Orion Bailey]

For 1 mill?

Great move. Collins could probably learn some from him too as far as offensive positioning and balance in the paint.

 

[dviss1]

Big Woj bomb there.


As you can tell by my handle, Duck has a special place in my heart... both then and now. Sabonis as well - he's in the NBA HoF and yet we don't have his number retired. Personally I think not honoring either is sad considering how much each meant to our team during their respective eras. Just my 2 cents.

Neither Duck, nor Sabonis deserve to have their jerseys retired.

 

[kjironman1]

It's rude because it's untrue. It is also rude, after I've gone out of my way to explain my perspective, to not only discount the validity of my opinion by saying I am conditioned to complain but also not even considering what I'm saying.

Sorry Prop. My feeling on the matter is the team got better and the team got deeper. I like the moves.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

I like what Olshy has done....but it's still been all bench parts and nothing that is really impacting the impact core. It might mean a couple more wins here and there but unless they suddenly surprise by getting to the WCF, it really didn't make that much of a difference.

No argument. The consolidation trade that I really feel needed to be done, wasn't. That being said, it was a nice haul. We got a lot, and gave up little - we didn't even give up our 1st rounder, which we were planning on doing.

 

[James lamphear]

Not a pick and pop, stretch 4 or 5. Use him around the basket. 10 feet and in, a little bit Ed Davis ish but more capable offensively.

I think he go out about 15-16 feet but his offense strength his back to the basket. That's way he will work better with the 2nd unit. I don't know how good pnr players is because majority of his points comes in the low posts position. I see him working well with Dame and CJ on the floor together.

 

[Chris Craig]

For 1 mill?

Great move. Collins could probably learn some from him too as far as offensive positioning and balance in the paint.

Yeah a salary of $653,000 plus a cap hit of $400,000 + so yeah about 1 mill

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Kanter in 00? Ed O. and maxiep sightings today? WTF? Is this a "Turn Back the Clock" day or what?

They are just checking in on us, worried because we all have Penis Kancer.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Sorry. Not trying to be pushy and of course JOKES are great. No stress. Joke away bro.

It's been YEARS, and I'm still waiting for the @nonjoke Barfo post

 

[KingSpeed]

Right. We said goodbye to Kenny Anserson and Gary's daddy along with who was it...Whitman

Alvin Williams

 

[H.C.]

Well Portland certainly has depth.
Don't know how Stotts plays all these players.
Tho this says one thing. The organization doesn't believe Collins is ready for big minutes.

 

[James lamphear]

You might see some Zach with Kanter just on Zach defense. Yes Zach get call for fouls but also he makes some good defense stops too.

 

[James lamphear]

Well Portland certainly has depth.
Don't know how Stotts plays all these players.
Tho this says one thing. The organization doesn't believe Collins is ready for big minutes.

He more replacing Leonard due to Zach can play PF.

 

[JDC]

You might see some Zach with Kanter just on Zach defense. Yes Zach get call for fouls but also he makes some good defense stops too.

Kanter is the one they'll pick on in pnr if they play together, leaving Zach to chase / help and recover vs stretch 4's and wings. We all saw how well that worked out early in the Zach w/ Meyers minutes, which forced Terry to switch their defensive positions to allow Zach to do what he's good at (guard pnr, protect the rim).

Not sure you'll be able to that with Kanter.

 

[Strenuus]

Put your money where your mouth is? How much you willing to bet.

1) I don't bet on here. You know that.

2) I never mentioned a bet, so that's weird you thought it was betting-worthy.

3) We don't have a solid team that can withstand the playoffs. If we do in fact win a playoff series, I'll be very surprised.

4) There's a lot of players that need to go and upgrades that need to be made before we're a contender for anything past the first and second round.

 

[andalusian]

Dont forget, i know where he lives. Im calling BS. Not sure if a ups truck could make that corner. Lol.

Of course it can. There is room in that pool.

 

[SlyPokerDog]

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsTheHCP can confirm the Turner/Kanter story.

 

[UncleCliffy'sDaddy]

Idon't remember anyone complaining about TT wearing #12.

Frankly I'd love it if Kanter chose #12. Don't really care about 00.

I didn’t say anyone was complaining about LaMucus wearing #12 (though I certainly did early in my tenure here). Just saying it was an outrage (for me anyway) that Aldridge wore the number of one of the classiest acts to ever wear a Blazer uni. I have no problem with Kanter wearing it....or any other number as long as he helps the team.

 

[Orion Bailey]

@ThePosterFormerlyKnownAsTheHCP can confirm the Turner/Kanter story.

You are smokin crack again

 

[wizenheimer]

EOTY??? Really? Exaggerate much? .

no exaggeration...somebody else said it even though I'm assuming it was tongue-in-cheek (what's the keyboard version of that?)....much like my '14' that you went ballistic about

like TBpup said, nobody is saying these were bad moves or that they weren't significant upgrades over the Blazers players moved out. But they also aren't the kind of moves that will change the trajectory of the team in any significant fashion...the needle barely blipped

 

[The Professional Fan]

I love the move. I'd love the move even more if we had beaten either Dallas or OKC. Or just Dallas, honestly. I'm still pretty bummed by what I've seen the last two games and we get the Warriors tonight. Let's just get past this game, the All Star break, and see what happens. I think we have talent. I think we have a really decent amount of talent. Adding Kanter obviously helps. But that talent I speak of lost to fucking Dallas. God, I can't get past that game....I joined the fire Stotts camp after the Dallas game so I'm reluctant to get too excited I think is the issue.

 

[riverman]

Wheels with the pregame already bringing the goods....the NURK AND TURK! Wheels is the man!