Faried hates the Blazers

[KeepOnRollin]

I'll take Lillard and hickson over just faired and Wallace. I assume that we wouldn't make the deals we did to get jj and Lillard. So even though having farid would have been a huge plus; the karma police rewarded us with hickson and Lillard.

Assuming Hickson is back next year then I agree for sure. No gimmie though.

 

[magnifier661]

Assuming Hickson is back next year then I agree for sure. No gimmie though.

I think Portland will do everything in their power to keep him. The team is starting to gel with him being one of the anchors. We need players that can fit into what we already have. Hopefully they are veterans; since they will be able to transition without significant playing time in the process.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I think Portland will do everything in their power to keep him. The team is starting to gel with him being one of the anchors. We need players that can fit into what we already have. Hopefully they are veterans; since they will be able to transition without significant playing time in the process.

What do you consider within their power though? Hickson is going to ask for at least a 3 year 8 MIL (average per year) deal. Believe it or not I think he can get that somewhere else. So will we give it to him here? He is done taking 1 year contracts so we have to pony up and show him we really believe.

 

[magnifier661]

What do you consider within their power though? Hickson is going to ask for at least a 3 year 8 MIL (average per year) deal. Believe it or not I think he can get that somewhere else. So will we give it to him here? He is done taking 1 year contracts so we have to pony up and show him we really believe.

I think that's a very reasonable offer actually.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

I think that's a very reasonable offer actually.

Yep, that is why I said at least. I don't see him settling for less and he really has no reason to. Someone will give him at least that even if POR doesn't want to.

 

[BlazerWookee]

Sorry if I'm missing on the sarcasm, but we supposedly passed on Faried as part of the Felton deal.

So, Denver fleeced us over twice on one deal.

No sarcasm, I brain farted and couldn't remember which deal it was, lol.

If Brandon's knees hadn't failed him, passing on Faried to get Felton and drafting Smith would have looked like a brilliant move. Keep in mind that Felton was brought in because he fit better next to Brandon than Andre Miller did, and Smith's skill set looked to fit nicely beside Brandon, too. If Brandon had retired early in the summer instead of waiting until right before the season started, we'd probably have both Miller and Faried instead of Felton and Smith. If you want to be mad about not drafting Faried, be mad at Brandon Roy, not Chad Buchannon.

 

[HailBlazers]

Statistically Faried and Hickson are almost identical.... except Hickson is one year older and shoots a better percentage.

Repped for the Solace BTW.

 

[jlprk]

The rumor in Portland was that Larry Miller and Chad Buchanan promised the Nuggets front office that they would not draft Faried in order to make the trade for Raymond Felton happen.

Joe Freeman disagrees. He should cite a quote or source for the following, not just "word is."

In Denver, word is the Nuggets practically fell out of their chairs when the Blazers’ selection of Smith was announced. The Nuggets immediately put in their selection of Faried, bypassing the allotted five minutes to make their selection.

 

[BigGameDamian]

well, I don't know why teams promise to draft players at a certain selection in the draft. Actually I kind of do and it's to help scare other teams off with higher picks away from that player. I'm not a fan of this strategy and it seems like it gets more and more common each year. If the Blazers did indeed promise the pick to Faried and back out to take Nolan I don't fault Faried for disliking the Blazers. I wish this kind of strategy would stop.

 

[BigGameDamian]

The rumor in Portland was that Larry Miller and Chad Buchanan promised the Nuggets front office that they would not draft Faried in order to make the trade for Raymond Felton happen.

Joe Freeman disagrees. He should cite a quote or source for the following, not just "word is."

Ya and I guess Mr. Allen was no where to be found when this agreement went down?

 

[Boob-No-More]

Statistically Faried and Hickson are almost identical.... except Hickson is one year older and shoots a better percentage.

I was pissed when we didn't get Faried. I was also pissed when we passed on both DeJuan Blair and Paul Millsap multiple times. But the way Hickson is playing has helped me get over it.

BNM

 

[RoyToy]

I'm not really pissed about passing on Faried (especially when they got Hickson).

I get pissed when the Blazers pass on Chris Paul for Martell Webster.

 

[LuckyShot]

After tonight's game, Hickson>Faried. Faried looks like a tweener to me and probably is about as good as he's going to be.

 

[PapaG]

Faried got his ass kicked by Hickson tonight, and he's lucky he didn't have to deal with LMA and Hickson on the front line.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

After tonight's game, Hickson>Faried. Faried looks like a tweener to me and probably is about as good as he's going to be.

I love Hickson and want POR to sign him long-term but this was merely 1 game.

 

[RR7]

I love Hickson and want POR to sign him long-term but this was merely 1 game.

And it's merely all year he's looked just as good if not better. The whining needs to stop.

 

[Nikolokolus]

I was talking about this qute, druggie:

“I think it’s disrespectful what they did, got my hopes up for nothing. Every time we play them, it’s a little extra motivation for me to come out and show them what they missed.’’

Huh? You're grasping dude.

 

[KeepOnRollin]

And it's merely all year he's looked just as good if not better. The whining needs to stop.

I wouldn't call it whining but it is time to move on. However if Hickson leaves this summer then you will keep hearing about this.

 

[NOVoodoo]

No sarcasm, I brain farted and couldn't remember which deal it was, lol.

If Brandon's knees hadn't failed him, passing on Faried to get Felton and drafting Smith would have looked like a brilliant move. Keep in mind that Felton was brought in because he fit better next to Brandon than Andre Miller did, and Smith's skill set looked to fit nicely beside Brandon, too. If Brandon had retired early in the summer instead of waiting until right before the season started, we'd probably have both Miller and Faried instead of Felton and Smith. If you want to be mad about not drafting Faried, be mad at Brandon Roy, not Chad Buchannon.

Thank you for actually addressing the actual Nolan Smith draft pick. The only other person that did so in this thread lumps Faried in as just another "hustle" player, so well, that opinion goes out the window.

 

[Natebishop3]

Hickson made Faried his bitch tonight.

 

[magnifier661]

I love Hickson and want POR to sign him long-term but this was merely 1 game.

Hasn't he had 18 double doubles this season? He has played really well so far this season.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

I like Faried for a lot of things, but right now Hickson is more useful to us. Hickson's big weakness is defense (I get the impression he's a bit of a space cadet who misses rotations and stuff) but I think Faried is overrated as a defender, partly because he's small for his position. The Nuggets are the best team for Faried because a frantic pace masks Faried's weaknesses. But Hickson is just bigger and stronger and a better scorer, and right now we need scoring.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Statistically Faried and Hickson are almost identical.... except Hickson is one year older and shoots a better percentage.

Points to ponder:
* I don't know, but I bet Denver plays at a faster pace, which would help to pad Faried's stats.
* Neither player gets many plays run for them, but I bet Hickson gets more, just because Faried gets effectively none. That's good and bad: good for JJ because you CAN run plays for him, good for Faried because he gets his points without you needing to.
* Hickson's very low foul numbers makes you wonder why he plays comparatively few minutes. Obviously Stott doesn't trust him like he does our big 4. Defense is probably a lot to do with that. Also wild and boneheaded play.
* Hickson has been asked to guard Cs. Can you imagine anyone asking Faried to do that?

Hickson is one of those players where you wonder why he's bounced around, and why the Blazers wouldn't commit to him more than a year. My assumption is that he drives the coaches crazy with broken plays and missed assignments. Some of his tweets are very spacey. He's the forward version of Armon Johnson.

 

[Natebishop3]

Points to ponder:
* I don't know, but I bet Denver plays at a faster pace, which would help to pad Faried's stats.
* Neither player gets many plays run for them, but I bet Hickson gets more, just because Faried gets effectively none. That's good and bad: good for JJ because you CAN run plays for him, good for Faried because he gets his points without you needing to.
* Hickson's very low foul numbers makes you wonder why he plays comparatively few minutes. Obviously Stott doesn't trust him like he does our big 4. Defense is probably a lot to do with that. Also wild and boneheaded play.
* Hickson has been asked to guard Cs. Can you imagine anyone asking Faried to do that?

Hickson is one of those players where you wonder why he's bounced around, and why the Blazers wouldn't commit to him more than a year. My assumption is that he drives the coaches crazy with broken plays and missed assignments. Some of his tweets are very spacey. He's the forward version of Armon Johnson.

I was watching Faried last night, and the guy is super raw offensively. Not much of an offensive game to speak of.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

No sarcasm, I brain farted and couldn't remember which deal it was, lol.

If Brandon's knees hadn't failed him, passing on Faried to get Felton and drafting Smith would have looked like a brilliant move. Keep in mind that Felton was brought in because he fit better next to Brandon than Andre Miller did, and Smith's skill set looked to fit nicely beside Brandon, too. If Brandon had retired early in the summer instead of waiting until right before the season started, we'd probably have both Miller and Faried instead of Felton and Smith. If you want to be mad about not drafting Faried, be mad at Brandon Roy, not Chad Buchannon.

I'm not mad.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Points to ponder:
* I don't know, but I bet Denver plays at a faster pace, which would help to pad Faried's stats.
* Neither player gets many plays run for them, but I bet Hickson gets more, just because Faried gets effectively none. That's good and bad: good for JJ because you CAN run plays for him, good for Faried because he gets his points without you needing to.
* Hickson's very low foul numbers makes you wonder why he plays comparatively few minutes. Obviously Stott doesn't trust him like he does our big 4. Defense is probably a lot to do with that. Also wild and boneheaded play.
* Hickson has been asked to guard Cs. Can you imagine anyone asking Faried to do that?

Hickson is one of those players where you wonder why he's bounced around, and why the Blazers wouldn't commit to him more than a year. My assumption is that he drives the coaches crazy with broken plays and missed assignments. Some of his tweets are very spacey. He's the forward version of Armon Johnson.

Except Hickson can ball.

 

[Natebishop3]

Except Hickson can ball.

Comparing Hickson to Armon Johnson is laughable. They gave him a one-year deal because they wanted to keep their options open with cap space. With how he's playing though, I hope they make him an offer during the season. Can they do that?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Points to ponder:

* Hickson's very low foul numbers makes you wonder why he plays comparatively few minutes. Obviously Stott doesn't trust him like he does our big 4. Defense is probably a lot to do with that. Also wild and boneheaded play.
* Hickson has been asked to guard Cs. Can you imagine anyone asking Faried to do that?

Hickson is one of those players where you wonder why he's bounced around, and why the Blazers wouldn't commit to him more than a year. My assumption is that he drives the coaches crazy with broken plays and missed assignments. Some of his tweets are very spacey. He's the forward version of Armon Johnson.

I think the reason he does not get more minutes when LMA is healthy is because he gets tired due to his "energy".
That takes a toll.

As far as bouncing around....Not sure what happened in Sac Town, but as for Cleveland maybe they thought Omri Caspri would pull in the Jewish fans to help fill the arena...........plus Caspri showed signs of being pretty good with Sacramento.

maybe

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Comparing Hickson to Armon Johnson is laughable. They gave him a one-year deal because they wanted to keep their options open with cap space. With how he's playing though, I hope they make him an offer during the season. Can they do that?

Can we go over the cap to re-sign him? If so, I'd tell JJ, "We love you. We want to keep you here. But we also want to add to the team, deepen the bench. So we want to keep our cap space, bring players in, and then we'll re-sign you." Theoretically, they can negotiate a deal and sit on it until they have everything else taken care of (Just don't let anyone say the deal is locked up, because the NBA might bite down on you - see Juwan Howard signing with the Heat in 1996).

 

[Jayps15]

Can we go over the cap to re-sign him? If so, I'd tell JJ, "We love you. We want to keep you here. But we also want to add to the team, deepen the bench. So we want to keep our cap space, bring players in, and then we'll re-sign you." Theoretically, they can negotiate a deal and sit on it until they have everything else taken care of (Just don't let anyone say the deal is locked up, because the NBA might bite down on you - see Juwan Howard signing with the Heat in 1996).

To retain the rights to sign him over our salary cap the NBA puts a cap hold on any room we have, so either we have significantly reduced cap space or we have to renounce his rights which means no going over the cap to resign him. If the cap space with all the holds is less than the MLE than we get the full MLE to sign free agents over the cap, if it's more than the MLE then we lose the MLE and can only sign free agents up to the cap.