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Instead of deporting illegal immigrants, I think we should deport the Federal Reserve, most of Congress, corporate and banking criminals, the Bush family, the Rockefellers, the department of homeland security, NAFTA, Kevin Garnett, and Kid Rock.

So you would like to get rid of the Coast Guard, protection for the President and his family, law enforcement agencies combating human smuggling and child exploitation, the integrity of our financial currency and the enforcement of immigration laws? That's brilliant. Welcome to ignore.
 
I don't understand the correlation between people thinking illegal immigrants don't pay taxes having any impact on their ability to see the benefits of social security--it's because they're in the country illegally. How do they pay into social security? Oh that's right, with a fake SSN. My guess would be the majority of illegal immigrants with a fake SSN # did not acquire it to pay into social security, but instead to get a job. This just keeps the identity theft problems in this country rolling.

Just so I understand correctly, all illegal immigrants pay taxes, and they can do no wrong? Okay, got it.

I think you misundestood waht she was saying . . . I didn't read in her posts (or saw that it was implied) that she was saying they can do no wrong. :dunno:
 
I think you misundestood waht she was saying . . . I didn't read in her posts (or saw that it was implied) that she was saying they can do no wrong. :dunno:

The point is that if an illegal alien does pay taxes, they do not pay near the amount of tax compared to a citizen making the same amount of money.
 
Instead of deporting illegal immigrants, I think we should deport the Federal Reserve, most of Congress, corporate and banking criminals, the Bush family, the Rockefellers, the department of homeland security, NAFTA, Kevin Garnett, and Kid Rock.


Exactly. Minus Kid Rock.
 
Instead of deporting illegal immigrants, I think we should deport the Federal Reserve, most of Congress, corporate and banking criminals, the Bush family, the Rockefellers, the department of homeland security, NAFTA, Kevin Garnett, and Kid Rock.


Zzzzzzzzzzzzzing!

+1 (I agree)
 
ok. then deport poor people that are on welfare and don't work. I guess at least the illegals are doing something by working.
 

What a shit article:

Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children. The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families � most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume.

Please, most of them steal everything they own + they have 25 people living in their apartments. :ohno:
 
when I think about it, I don't give a fuck if illegals are here really. I'd rather NOT pay for them through taxes but what are you gonna do. I don't feel sorry for them or whatever, they work hard, fuck it...they'll eventually get better.

www.fairtax.org
 
The point is that if an illegal alien does pay taxes, they do not pay near the amount of tax compared to a citizen making the same amount of money.

One study from several years ago says the illegals cost us $10B/yr. Whether the study is conclusive or accurate is a question that is begged.

In any case, $10B works out to about $1.60/week per person in the workforce. Per capita, it's $.33/week. I think tax on a gallon of gasoline in California might be $1.60...

Small price to pay for 10M+ workers who work below minimum wage level. You certainly benefit $.33/week for cheaper agricultural products alone.

:devilwink: advocate.
 
One might have imagined that those fearing deportation or confronting the prospect of paying for their safety net through their own meager wages would take a pass on the IRS' scheme. Not so. Close to 8 million of the 12 million or so illegal aliens in the country today file personal income taxes using these numbers, contributing billions to federal coffers. No doubt they hope that this will one day help them acquire legal status — a plaintive expression of their desire to play by the rules and come out of the shadows.

So 2 out of 3 illegals in this country know about these forms, fill them out and file taxes with the IRS? I find that number highly suspect personally. Especially when you consider the non-working women and children. 2 out of 3 of the kids filed income taxes? Laughable.

Wikipedia has this: In 2006 1.4 million people used ITIN when filing taxes. These numbers LIKELY include other people other than illegal border jumpers. Seems like this bitch is making shit up.
 
So 2 out of 3 illegals in this country know about these forms, fill them out and file taxes with the IRS? I find that number highly suspect personally. Especially when you consider the non-working women and children. 2 out of 3 of the kids filed income taxes? Laughable.

Wikipedia has this: In 2006 1.4 million people used ITIN when filing taxes. These numbers LIKELY include other people other than illegal border jumpers. Seems like this bitch is making shit up.

The illegals want a track record of paying their taxes with the hope they'll get amnesty. Plus they actually might give a damn.

If you read the article a little more closely, you'll see that she says that many illegals file with someone else's SSN, not just ITINs, and for that they'll never see $.01 of medicare or social security or unemployment insurance, etc.
 
What's more, aliens who are not self-employed have Social Security and Medicare taxes automatically withheld from their paychecks. Since undocumented workers have only fake numbers, they'll never be able to collect the benefits these taxes are meant to pay for. Last year, the revenues from these fake numbers — that the Social Security administration stashes in the "earnings suspense file" — added up to 10 percent of the Social Security surplus. The file is growing, on average, by more than $50 billion a year.

Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children. The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families � most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume.

WHAT? I mean seriously. How stupid is this writer?
 
The illegals want a track record of paying their taxes with the hope they'll get amnesty. Plus they actually might give a damn.

If you read the article a little more closely, you'll see that she says that many illegals file with someone else's SSN, not just ITINs, and for that they'll never see $.01 of medicare or social security or unemployment insurance, etc.

Do you honestly believe 2 out of 3 illegal immigrants in this country file federal tax returns? Have you ever worked with illegal immigrants? I have, and I highly doubt they file returns on the magnitude which this author fabricates.
 
Do you honestly believe 2 out of 3 illegal immigrants in this country file federal tax returns? Have you ever worked with illegal immigrants? I have, and I highly doubt they file returns on the magnitude which this author fabricates.

Did you (or your employer) withhold taxes on the illegal immigrants? Or did you (or your employer) pay them cash?

barfo
 
The IRS numbers don't lie. They can see that the name on the tax return doesn't match the name on the SS card.

This just shows how fucked our current taxation system is, if true. If you can just steal these numbers and then these taxes are on the order of $50 billion dollars per year...wow. just wow.
 
Did you (or your employer) withhold taxes on the illegal immigrants? Or did you (or your employer) pay them cash?

barfo

straight cash yo! Actually maybe they were legal, I don't know. I didn't ask. :ohno:

Usually hire them @ $10 an hour to move boxes and files, shred documents, furniture, etc.
 
From the local San Diego newspaper:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040415/news_1n15taxes.html

More than 7.4 million immigrants have been issued the (ITIN) taxpayer numbers since 1996 – more than a million each of the past three years – and "in all likelihood the number of Forms 1040 with ITINs will increase," according to a Treasury Department report released in January.

Because the taxpayer numbers cannot be used to get a job, many of the tax returns filed with the numbers come attached with W-2 employer forms showing a fake or fraudulent Social Security number.
 
Well, then perhaps the problem is not so much with the illegal alien, but the employer, in this case.

barfo

I don't have a problem with illegals. I really don't give a shit what they do personally. Like I said, I'm against all government financial aid, not only to illegals.
 
From the local San Diego newspaper:
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040415/news_1n15taxes.html

More than 7.4 million immigrants have been issued the (ITIN) taxpayer numbers since 1996 – more than a million each of the past three years – and "in all likelihood the number of Forms 1040 with ITINs will increase," according to a Treasury Department report released in January.

Because the taxpayer numbers cannot be used to get a job, many of the tax returns filed with the numbers come attached with W-2 employer forms showing a fake or fraudulent Social Security number.

The system works!

:clap: x :ohno:
 

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