Finding Neil a backup SG/SF

[PtldPlatypus]

That would be sweet but I'm pretty sure they're not looking to trade Powell.

I'd wager you're correct.

 

[illmatic99]

That's a pretty reasonable deal for him.

 

[dviss1]

Avery Bradly doesn't fit the need of shooting though.

He shot well in BOS and made more than Crabbe per game:

 

[Denny Crane]

And we don't need a backup SF. We have Aminu, Harkless, and Turner.

We need a quality starting SF.

A 15PPG guy who plays two ways and can handle the ball.

 

[blue9]

We need a quality starting SF.

A 15PPG guy who plays two ways and can handle the ball.

OMG! WHO? Who is out there that is (a) an obvious upgrade and (b) somewhat attainable?
News Flash: there isn't much SF talent in the NBA, and the few good SFs aren't available.

 

[Scalma]

OMG! WHO? Who is out there that is (a) an obvious upgrade and (b) somewhat attainable?
News Flash: there isn't much SF talent in the NBA, and the few good SFs aren't available.

No one proven, but there are guys with that potential, and that's Neil's wheelhouse.

 

[Denny Crane]

No one proven, but there are guys with that potential, and that's Neil's wheelhouse.

OMG who?

How about Tony Snell?

He plays D, shot over 40% from 3pt, and is stuck behind the greek guy in Milwaukee. His career trajectory seems upward at this point.

 

[blue9]

So, the guy who is two years older than Harkless, who played the same number of minutes, averaged fewer points, fewer blocks, fewer steals, and fewer rebounds while shooting 5% worse, is a clear upgrade? He has an upward trajectory, and Harkless, despite being younger, does not? He plays better D, despite having a worse DRtg while playing in the little leagues?

Hey - I'm all for bringing in any young SG/SF with promise. Perhaps when all is said and done, Snell turns out to be a much better player than Harkless. But come on. At this point, Snell is - at best - a lateral move. Literally the only thing he's clearly better at is 3-point shooting.

 

[Scalma]

OMG who?

How about Tony Snell?

He plays D, shot over 40% from 3pt, and is stuck behind the greek guy in Milwaukee. His career trajectory seems upward at this point.

That seems like an Olshey type of player. What's his contract like?

 

[blue9]

That seems like an Olshey type of player. What's his contract like?

I do believe I also asked for "somewhat attainable" players.
Why would MIL trade away a player they just extended, who is on a very reasonable contract for the next three seasons?

 

[Scalma]

The most attainable player that has the most potential imo is Hezonja. If Orlando is open to moving him (nothing about their offseason suggests otherwise) it's something Neil should explore.

 

[Denny Crane]

So, the guy who is two years older than Harkless, who played the same number of minutes, averaged fewer points, fewer blocks, fewer steals, and fewer rebounds while shooting 5% worse, is a clear upgrade? He has an upward trajectory, and Harkless, despite being younger, does not? He plays better D, despite having a worse DRtg while playing in the little leagues?

Hey - I'm all for bringing in any young SG/SF with promise. Perhaps when all is said and done, Snell turns out to be a much better player than Harkless. But come on. At this point, Snell is - at best - a lateral move. Literally the only thing he's clearly better at is 3-point shooting.

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I think we've seen the player Mo is going to be.

I don't think we've seen the player that Snell is going to be.

Regardless of age.

The Bucks starting PF is John Henson. If we offer them an upgrade, they might do the trade.

Ideally, we send out enough salary to get under the LT.

 

[Pinwheel1]

The most attainable player that has the most potential imo is Hezonja. If Orlando is open to moving him (nothing about their offseason suggests otherwise) it's something Neil should explore.

He shot alright his rookie year from deep. What happened last year? Those are the type of players one can steal, but it only works if they can get better. Can he play D?

 

[illmatic99]

Robert Covington is another guy to look at given the logjam in the Sixer front court. He can swing up to PF as well and is really versatile. PHI might be stupid enough to trade him before paying him.

 

[blue9]

The Bucks starting PF is John Henson. If we offer them an upgrade, they might do the trade.

Who is this PF we have that's an upgrade over Henson? Are you saying you want to trade Collins or Biggie for Snell?

Pssst, I think your BGD is showing.

 

[blue9]

Robert Covington is another guy to look at given the logjam in the Sixer front court. He can swing up to PF as well and is really versatile. PHI might be stupid enough to trade him before paying him.

I'd love to trade for him. Again, he's more of a lateral move - but if we weren't trading Harkless for him I think they'd make a good SF rotation. I don't know how attainable he is.

 

[RR7]

Robert Covington is another guy to look at given the logjam in the Sixer front court. He can swing up to PF as well and is really versatile. PHI might be stupid enough to trade him before paying him.

I like Covington, but as you said, he can swing to the 4 some. I think we need more a backup at the 2/3, versus 3/4. Harkless and Aminu can do 3/4.

 

[Scalma]

I'd love to trade for him. Again, he's more of a lateral move - but if we weren't trading Harkless for him I think they'd make a good SF rotation. I don't know how attainable he is.

Lateral move? He's a lot better than Harkless maaaan

 

[blue9]

Lateral move? He's a lot better than Harkless maaaan

He might be, but I don't think we can say that he's clearly better. Better rebounder. Worse shooter. Played against inferior talent (also played with inferior talent).

 

[Scalma]

He might be, but I don't think we can say that he's clearly better. Better rebounder. Worse shooter. Played against inferior talent (also played with inferior talent).

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Covington is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league, which separates the two imo.

 

[BigGameDamian]

And we don't need a backup SF. We have Aminu, Harkless, and Turner.

Which neither one can shoot worth a damn.

 

[dviss1]

I think we've seen the player Mo is going to be.

I don't think we've seen the player that Snell is going to be.

Regardless of age.

The Bucks starting PF is John Henson. If we offer them an upgrade, they might do the trade.

Ideally, we send out enough salary to get under the LT.

Soooo we've seen that hard push up the court dribbling and finding Collins with a one handed DIME for a dunk?

We've seen that before??

Stop it.

 

[Blazers Roy]

Our starting SF position is fine, we have enough talent so all we need are forwards who have good size and can play defense =Aminu\Turner.

Our bench however, was bottom 10 last year and we lost our only decent bench player since then.
Our bench is the problem. We need scorers and a solid vet Center who can play D.

 

[Scalma]

Soooo we've seen that hard push up the court dribbling and finding Collins with a one handed DIME for a dunk?

We've seen that before??

Stop it.

That was a hard push up the court?

Stop it.

 

[dviss1]

That was a hard push up the court?

Stop it.

One of your more obtuse posts.

None of us have seen him do anything like that before. He was under control, head up, dribbling confidently, and delivered a pass the likes of which we've never seen and you're parsing how hard the push was?

 

[Scalma]

One of your more obtuse posts.

None of us have seen him do anything like that before. He was under control, head up, dribbling confidently, and delivered a pass the likes of which we've never seen and you're parsing how hard the push was?

So the new wrinkle in his game is dribbling with his head up and completing a relatively standard bounce pass? You're lowkey dissing your boy.

 

[dviss1]

So the new wrinkle in his game is dribbling with his head up and completing a relatively standard bounce pass? You're lowkey dissing your boy.

No, I'm giving him props.

You're the one calling that highlight "standard".

 

[Denny Crane]

Who is this PF we have that's an upgrade over Henson? Are you saying you want to trade Collins or Biggie for Snell?

Pssst, I think your BGD is showing.

All of our PFs are an upgrade.

 

[Denny Crane]

Soooo we've seen that hard push up the court dribbling and finding Collins with a one handed DIME for a dunk?

We've seen that before??

Stop it.

No real improvement year over year.

He's the player he's going to be.

 

[dviss1]

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No real improvement year over year.

He's the player he's going to be.

You're looking at numbers, I'm looking at physical ability.