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How good do you think Terry Stotts is a s a coach?

  • Top 5

    Votes: 9 5.8%

  • Top 10

    Votes: 44 28.6%

  • Top 20

    Votes: 35 22.7%

  • Needs to go!

    Votes: 51 33.1%

  • He's the very best!

    Votes: 2 1.3%

  • Lets hope he continues to improve.

    Votes: 13 8.4%
  • Total voters
    154
JDC said:
NBA's hustle stats had 85.2% (23/27) as contested vs 64.2% on the season. Watched the attempts back too and Elleby definitely stood out. His closes were great.

On the other hand, the tracking data had the Sixers 1/11 on 3's classified as wide open (4-6 feet from closest defender).
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I like the data. 20% increase is significant!

I'm a little confused how 85% of the 3's are contested but you're also saying 11 out of the 27 3's were considered "wide open".
 
Tince said:
I like the data. 20% increase is significant!

I'm a little confused how 85% of the 3's are contested but you're also saying 11 out of the 27 3's were considered "wide open".
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From what I've heard, the tracking data for the closest defender stuff is taken from the mid point of the defenders body at the release of the shot.

So if it's a long closeout situation a wide open 3 is still considered contested.
 
JDC said:
So if it's a long closeout situation a wide open 3 is still considered contested.
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Wow?
Stats....
How about was there a defender? Yes there was a defender. Did he make the shot. He didn't make the shot. Could he have made the shot? Yes he could have made the shot. The shot didn't fall.
We're back to who made their shots and who didn't.
 
According to Basketball Reference, there have been a total of 336 head coaches in NBA history.

53 of 336 (15.8%) have had at least 10 seasons as a head coach (Stotts: 13 seasons, 9 with POR). Of those 53,
  • Stotts ranks 38th in career regular season win % at 51.2%
  • Stotts ranks 49th in career playoff win % at 34.4%. Only coaches below him are Mike Fratello (32.3%), Nate McMillan (32.1%), Kevin Loughery (22.2%) and Don Chaney (18.2%).
21 0f 336 (6.3%) have had a coaching tenure for 9 consecutive seasons with one team. (Stotts 9 with POR). Of those 21,
  • Stotts ranks 20th in regular season win % at 51.2%. Only Bill Fitch has a lower career regular season win % at 46.0%. However, Fitch has a career playoff win % at 50.5% and a NBA championship.
  • Stotts ranks 21st in playoff win % at 34.4%. Ranked 20th is Doug Moe at 39.8%, a full 5.4 percentage points higher than Stotts.
15 of the 21 (71.4%) head coaches with a coaching tenure of 9 consecutive seasons with one team have NBA championships. The coaches that don't have a NBA championship,
  • Jerry Sloan: 60.3% career regular season win %, 48.5% career playoff win %, 2 NBA Finals appearances
  • Don Nelson: 55.7% career regular season win %, 45.2% career playoff win %, 4 career Conference Finals game wins.
  • Flip Saunders: 52.5 % career regular season win %, 48.0% career playoff win %, 8 career Conference Finals game wins
  • John MacLeod: 51.8% career regular season win %, 46.5% career playoff win %, 1 NBA Finals appearance
  • Doug Moe: 54.3 % career regular season win %, 39.8% career playoff win %, 4 career Conference Finals game wins.
Only 1 coach of 336 in NBA history that has at least 10 seasons as a head coach with a tenure of 9 consecutive seasons with one team and has ZERO Conference Finals games wins: Terry Stotts.

CONCLUSION: There is no justification for Stotts' 9 season tenure in Portland. Historically, he is a bottom tier coach. Only 6.3% of coaches in NBA history have been afforded a 9 consecutive season tenure with one team. Of those, 71% have an NBA championship, 81% have at least an NBA Finals appearance and 95% have at least 4 career Conference Finals game wins. Terry Stotts has none of those.

It's time to move on.
 
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Almost a decade wasted. The Mark Helfrich of the NBA, although not even quite that successful as at least Helfich took Kelly's roster to success. Nice guy, good coordinator, extremely unproductive at the levels one wants to get to.
 
OneSport3 said:
According to Basketball Reference, there have been a total of 336 head coaches in NBA history.

53 of 336 (15.8%) have had at least 10 seasons as a head coach (Stotts: 13 seasons, 9 with POR). Of those 53,
  • Stotts ranks 38th in career regular season win % at 51.2%
  • Stotts ranks 49th in career playoff win % at 34.4%. Only coaches below him are Mike Fratello (32.3%), Nate McMillan (32.1%), Kevin Loughery (22.2%) and Don Chaney (18.2%).
21 0f 336 (6.3%) have had a coaching tenure for 9 consecutive seasons with one team. (Stotts 9 with POR). Of those 21,
  • Stotts ranks 20th in regular season win % at 51.2%. Only Bill Fitch has a lower career regular season win % at 46.0%. However, Fitch has a career playoff win % at 50.5% and a NBA championship.
  • Stotts ranks 21st in playoff win % at 34.4%. Ranked 20th is Doug Moe at 39.8%, a full 5.4 percentage points higher than Stotts.
15 of of the 21 (71.4%) head coaches with a coaching tenure of 9 consecutive seasons with one team have NBA championships. The coaches that don't have a NBA championship,
  • Jerry Sloan: 60.3% career regular season win %, 48.5% career playoff win %, 2 NBA Finals appearances
  • Don Nelson: 55.7% career regular season win %, 45.2% career playoff win %, 4 career Conference Finals game wins.
  • Flip Saunders: 52.5 % career regular season win %, 48.0% career playoff win %, 8 career Conference Finals game wins
  • John MacLeod: 51.8% career regular season win %, 46.5% career playoff win %, 1 NBA Finals appearance
  • Doug Moe: 54.3 % career regular season win %, 39.8% career playoff win %, 4 career Conference Finals game wins.
Only 1 coach of 336 in NBA history that has at least 10 seasons as a head coach with a tenure of 9 consecutive seasons with one team and has ZERO Conference Finals games wins: Terry Stotts.

CONCLUSION: There is no justification for Stotts' 9 season tenure in Portland. Historically, he is a bottom tier coach. Only 6.3% of coaches in NBA history have been afforded a 9 consecutive season tenure with one team. Of those, 71% have an NBA championship, 81% have at least an NBA Finals appearance and 95% have at least 4 career Conference Finals game wins. Terry Stotts has none of those.

It's time to move on.
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Omg please someone rebuttle all these facts.

This is as plain as day he's a mediocre coach.

Also proves that longevity with a team doesn't mean success.
 
You should have started a new thread for this post.
 
Whoever the Mod was that merged this was pretty generous to rename the Fire Stotts Now thread to include the title of what should have just been one person's post. Less is more. It's just my opinion but I'd like to go back to just "Fire Stotts Now"
 
blazerkor said:
Whoever the Mod was that merged this was pretty generous to rename the Fire Stotts Now thread to include the title of what should have just been one person's post. Less is more. It's just my opinion but I'd like to go back to just "Fire Stotts Now"
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I wanted to honor Stotts since he is the ONLY coach in the ENTIRE history of the NBA to accomplish that achievement.
 
OneSport3 said:
I wanted to honor Stotts since he is the ONLY coach in the ENTIRE history of the NBA to accomplish that achievement.
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Loved your post but it was just that, a post that belonged in this thread and the thread name that has been here for over four years definitely didn't need to change because of one really good post.
 
blazerkor said:
Loved your post but it was just that, a post that belonged in this thread and the thread name that has been here for over four years definitely didn't need to change because of one really good post.
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I agree that I loved his post... I disagree that it needed to be combined with this thread. That had a lot of good information that'll get lost in the thousands of posts this thread generates.

However, I'm not gonna lose sleep over it. Not a huge deal in the long run.

Anyway. Fire stotts!
 
TBpup said:
Almost a decade wasted. The Mark Helfrich of the NBA, although not even quite that successful as at least Helfich took Kelly's roster to success. Nice guy, good coordinator, extremely unproductive at the levels one wants to get to.
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One was carried on the back of Marcus Mariota.

The other was carried on the back of Damian Lillard.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Players are like children. They need structure. If they have no structure, we see chaos, which has become all too often with this team.

How many times have you seen Dame/CJ/Melo and even GTJ take a completely fucking awful shot with no repercussions from Terry? That kind of offense and defense without accountability is what's hurting this team. I have seen GTJ get the ball, run down the court, and try to attack the rim against three defenders. Passing isn't even a thought in his mind. CJ does this too. We have one of the most selfish teams I have ever seen. It was extremely refreshing yesterday to see the young guys playing unselfishly and putting out effort on both ends.

So I will say again, Terry allowing this behavior is one of his biggest flaws. It's like he's afraid to hold his players accountable for mistakes. We have horrible ball movement under Stotts, and whether that's on the players or not, Terry isn't doing anything to fix it.
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Players are not like children. They are grown businessmen who are elite at what they do. Jesus Christ.
 
KSF-ERIC said:
Players are not like children. They are grown businessmen who are elite at what they do. Jesus Christ.
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huh???
Grown businessmen? Most don't have college degrees because they hit the draft early and are given big money with no business acumen. Why do you think they need agents and financeers?
Why stories of pro athletes being taken advantage of and losing their money?

yes there are the kobe’s of the NBA but most need to be led by the hand....

most haven't a clue what to invest in without a professional businessman to help them...
Most need structure to be laid out before them.
 
Question...

The game has changed a bit for us with the newer, younger guys playing more and i'm seeing more motion in the offense and better team defense. With the guys we have out, the bulk of them are out for a while. Is this trend going to continue? Could this be the turning point forcing Stott's and the team to take it to the next level regarding team ball?
That last game was simply beautiful to watch. Injuries, no injuries. We have shown we can play well regardless of the opponent.
It's up to Stott's to recognize this and force it to be consistent, is it not?

I see this as a huge fork in the road and the next 10 or so games can determine his future. Will he instill discipline to maintain the same type of focus, energy, STYLE and consistency we saw, or will he back off and let our leaders play however they like?
 
Orion Bailey said:
Question...

The game has changed a bit for us with the newer, younger guys playing more and i'm seeing more motion in the offense and better team defense. With the guys we have out, the bulk of them are out for a while. Is this trend going to continue? Could this be the turning point forcing Stott's and the team to take it to the next level regarding team ball?
That last game was simply beautiful to watch. Injuries, no injuries. We have shown we can play well regardless of the opponent.
It's up to Stott's to recognize this and force it to be consistent, is it not?

I see this as a huge fork in the road and the next 10 or so games can determine his future. Will he instill discipline to maintain the same type of focus, energy, STYLE and consistency we saw, or will he back off and let our leaders play however they like?
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Road trips have historically been turning points for teams throughout the years. This one might be like many others. I certainly hope so.
Go Blazers!
Kjironman is a fan!!!
 
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