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Key points to look at though, see how many players have had career years under Terry and his coaching staff. Dame turned into an all star, CJ is getting there, Crabbe has shown enough flashes and consistency and improvement to warrant a decent contract as a second round pick, to an extent even Will's development this year has to be considered. Take a look at how Kaman raves about Stotts, or how vehement Dame is in giving Terry praise.

Aldridge had a career year here, Wessy had a career year and earned a massive contract, Nic turned from a corner 3 and D guy into a legit playmaker, Rolo went from a castoff into a legit starting C.

The only guys who I see who have NOT developed under this staff were Leonard (who is in reality still a question mark), and TRob (who Terry did not get under his watch until a few years after his NBA debut).

There have been far more hits than misses with this staff. Considering how young we are and how little talent we really have on paper, I think too much is made of the current offensive/defensive sets. We were a top 5 offense and defense with Terry for half a season when we were completely healthy with a veteran roster. Who knows how we woulda finished last year had Wes/Rolo not gone down?

You're not gonna have this level of success in developing young players AND getting veterans to buy in to the team with a new coach. Not quickly anyway. There definitely is something to be said about establishing stability.

Thibs will not come here when so many other vacancies will open up with rosters that are more likely to contend quickly. I don't really see any upgrades on the horizon. I have 0 interest in D'Antoni or Luke Walton.
 
Fez Hammersticks said:
Stotts has to work with what he's given.

The roster Neil has built would put any coach in a tough spot.

CJ/Dame/Plumlee are the only real players that we have.
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Crabbe is good too. And we have the makings of a very good bench.

What bugs me, is why are we still near the bottom of the league in fast break points? It doesn't make sense with this roster, we have athletic wings, two tweener point guards....why can't we generate fast break offense?
 
I think he deserves at least a full year with the current squad. If the team doesn't show enough improvement in certain areas, then the team can look elsewhere.

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I don't think he's using these guys right. Look up and down our roster, we could really play some pressure defense...at least sometimes. He just wanted to make them play the same way the old crew played.
 
Death, taxes and stupid, knee-jerk reactions on sports forums.
 
Stotts is not a very good coach, a very good coach would have played Frazier from the start, he would at least give Cliff Alexander a decent chance. We're supposedly overacheiving but only if you don't understand the strength of our roster. Stotts isn't close to maximizing it's potential.
There are some things he's good at, developing young players, his half-court offense, but when it comes to rotations he's often frustrating, he doesn't make the right adjustments on many occasions. With this team, the starting lineup isn't set in stone, there is less ego, so he should be able to juggle the lineups freely. He needs to at least understand why some players work better with others. Why if you have just one of Dame, CJ or Frazier on the court you would most likely be in trouble offensively.
I think right now we're underacheiving, I think our team isn't inferior to the '99 team for example and that Stotts while I don't think should be fired, has long ways to go
 
Nikolokolus said:
Was he a shit offensive coach the past two years when they were making the extra pass and playing an efficient and a (usually) fun-to-watch brand of basketball (at least on offense)?
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Yes. There is very little structure to the offense - he relies almost entirely on players to free lance for points.
Also, last season we ranked 17th in FG% (45%), this season we're currently ranked 15th (44.4%). We haven't had a good offense since Dunleavy.
 
MickZagger said:
I actually think we've over achieved this year.
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I'm not sure about overachieving. It's more like the rest of the West got much worse so we picked up a few more crappy wins and for the same reason are only a couple games out of the #8 playoff spot. Last year the #7 team had 50 wins. This year #7 is on pace for 38 wins and #8 is on pace for 36. That is a HUGE drop off so the Blazers are picking up a few more gimmies than we first projected.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Pick and roll defense starts with our guards and as much as I like Damian and McCollum they are kind of shitty on D, particularly the way they deal with screens.
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Disagree. It starts with the scheme. The guard will always fail if they don't have a big that can hedge the screen.
Even with that MAJOR disadvantage that Dame/CJ face every night, Dame did a GREAT job of getting around screens and contesting shots last night.
 
dviss1 said:
You really need to stop with that trade either Lillard or CJ mess. It's just not going to happen.
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Feeling defensive much? I didn't say anything about trading either. Why not jump at that "trade either Plumlee or Davis" mess?
 
yuyuza1 said:
Key points to look at though, see how many players have had career years under Terry and his coaching staff. Dame turned into an all star, CJ is getting there, Crabbe has shown enough flashes and consistency and improvement to warrant a decent contract as a second round pick, to an extent even Will's development this year has to be considered. Take a look at how Kaman raves about Stotts, or how vehement Dame is in giving Terry praise.

Aldridge had a career year here, Wessy had a career year and earned a massive contract, Nic turned from a corner 3 and D guy into a legit playmaker, Rolo went from a castoff into a legit starting C.
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Sorry, this argument just doesn't fly. All of the players you named (aside from Kaman/Rolo) have ONLY played under Stotts. To hold them up as evidence of Stotts greatness implies that they wouldn't be good players under any other coach, and I think that's patently wrong. Dame would be Dame regardless of who coaches him. Ditto for CJ. Will and Nic are playing BETTER under different coaches.
LMA had a "career year" here because he played his entire career here. And it wasn't a very good career - he was an inefficient volume shooter.
Wes had a career year because he played all but one season of his career here. Wes' improvement was due to his own hard work and personality.
Rolo was average.
 
blue9 said:
Sorry, this argument just doesn't fly. All of the players you named (aside from Kaman/Rolo) have ONLY played under Stotts. To hold them up as evidence of Stotts greatness implies that they wouldn't be good players under any other coach, and I think that's patently wrong. Dame would be Dame regardless of who coaches him. Ditto for CJ. Will and Nic are playing BETTER under different coaches.
LMA had a "career year" here because he played his entire career here. And it wasn't a very good career - he was an inefficient volume shooter.
Wes had a career year because he played all but one season of his career here. Wes' improvement was due to his own hard work and personality.
Rolo was average.
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I was going to respond to this too, but you nailed it.
 
blue9 said:
Sorry, this argument just doesn't fly. All of the players you named (aside from Kaman/Rolo) have ONLY played under Stotts. To hold them up as evidence of Stotts greatness implies that they wouldn't be good players under any other coach, and I think that's patently wrong. Dame would be Dame regardless of who coaches him. Ditto for CJ. Will and Nic are playing BETTER under different coaches.
LMA had a "career year" here because he played his entire career here. And it wasn't a very good career - he was an inefficient volume shooter.
Wes had a career year because he played all but one season of his career here. Wes' improvement was due to his own hard work and personality.
Rolo was average.
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We've seen so many other teams in the league fail to develop young talent. How many other coaching staffs could have taken that 30 win team in 2011 to win ~140 games, two playoff appearances, and a playoff series win in 3 seasons?

Players obviously improve on their own, but I feel like this staff has maximized the talent given to them by management every year so far.
 
dviss1 said:
His shoot first ask questions later offense is starting to kill me. Who are the top candidates to replace him with?
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That's a good question. Perhaps Olshey needs to look towards the NCAA. In your opinion, which college coaches would improve our current roster?
 
yuyuza1 said:
We've seen so many other teams in the league fail to develop young talent. How many other coaching staffs could have taken that 30 win team in 2011 to win ~140 games, two playoff appearances, and a playoff series win in 3 seasons?

Players obviously improve on their own, but I feel like this staff has maximized the talent given to them by management every year so far.
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We'll have to agree to disagree. I think at least 20 of the 30 coaches could have done an equal or better job. I don't feel like our talent has ever been maximized.
 
blue9 said:
To be fair, I don't think you've ever NOT liked a Blazer. I can't recall you ever being critical about anything Blazer-related.
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you missed the Felton, Babbit, Smith era then
 
blue9 said:
We'll have to agree to disagree. I think at least 20 of the 30 coaches could have done an equal or better job. I don't feel like our talent has ever been maximized.
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We all know he won't get fired. But let's say we don't extend his contract this summer.

Who would you rather have? And I really don't think Thibs/JVG are realistic options.
 
Nikolokolus said:
Pick and roll defense starts with our guards and as much as I like Damian and McCollum they are kind of shitty on D, particularly the way they deal with screens.
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The way they deal with screens is the way they are coached to. They are coached to force that midrange jumper. There are certain guards you don't do that to, Chris Paul being one of them. The midrange is where he feasts on defenses.
 
dviss1 said:
The way they deal with screens is the way they are coached to. They are coached to force that midrange jumper. There are certain guards you don't do that to, Chris Paul being one of them. The midrange is where he feasts on defenses.
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the problem here is our big man does not come up as much as he should to at least try to contest that shot. Rolo had the same issue. Don't think it's a coaching thing as much as personnel.
 
handiman said:
Feeling defensive much? I didn't say anything about trading either. Why not jump at that "trade either Plumlee or Davis" mess?
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You have advocated trading Damian Lillard...
 
yuyuza1 said:
the problem here is our big man does not come up as much as he should to at least try to contest that shot. Rolo had the same issue. Don't think it's a coaching thing as much as personnel.
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That's not the problem at all. If the big man doesn't come up then that allows the guard to go underneath the screen. Why are they always going over the top? Because they are coached to you that's why. Why don't we ever double team the guard on that pick & roll? Because they are not coached to that's why. Why doesn't our big hedge anymore? Because they are not coached to that's why. Terry Stotts is horrible at coaching pick and roll defense.
 
yuyuza1 said:
We all know he won't get fired. But let's say we don't extend his contract this summer.

Who would you rather have? And I really don't think Thibs/JVG are realistic options.
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I like Stotts fine. However, I'm partial to Thibs, so I would not be unhappy with the switch.

Thibs did turn Noah into a useful offensive player, and he developed Taj Gibson into a two-way player. He also managed to create offenses with Gasol and Boozer. People underrate Thibs' skills as an offensive coach. You don't coach for decades without at least learning something about both ends of the court.

At the very least, Thibs would give the team a good chance to win every game by keeping the score close and making it hard for opponents to score.
 
Here are teams that will potentially have openings at the end of the season.

BKN, NYK, PHL, TOR, MIL, WAS, HOU, MEM, MIN, LAL, PHX

And then POR.

And you HAVE to think that Thibs is at the top of the list for all those teams.

What would entice him to join us?
 
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