OT Free Agency Round The League

[BonesJones]

how could they land Cousins? Wouldn't he want to come here in the first place?

In this scenario, I'd trade ET and Meyers + a later first round pick (not next year) for Anthony. But than again, he has to approve it. So....I might as well fart in a jar.

The 2019 draft is weak, I'd rather trade it then for that reason, and because itd us to trade our 2021 pick (potentially the greatest draft ever) of needed.

If its true and we were the only team that offered Cousins $10M+, then that's a big factor in our favor. Plus, him and Dame are tight. Jed come here. By shedding MyLe, ET, and Nurk, we'd have close to maximum cap space.. shed Hark and we would.

 

[julius]

The 2019 draft is weak, I'd rather trade it then for that reason, and because itd us to trade our 2021 pick (potentially the greatest draft ever) of needed.

gotcha.

If its true and we were the only team that offered Cousins $10M+, then that's a big factor in our favor. Plus, him and Dame are tight. Jed come here. By shedding MyLe, ET, and Nurk, we'd have close to maximum cap space.. shed Hark and we would.

How did they offer him 10 million if they didn't have 10 million? S&T?

I think a lot of why teams didn't offer him that much was because of his health. His injury can be career changing.

 

[Sarni]

gotcha.

How did they offer him 10 million if they didn't have 10 million? S&T?

I think a lot of why teams didn't offer him that much was because of his health. His injury can be career changing.

Perhaps we offered a S&T with New Orleans for Harkless, that would match $10million quote and New Orleans need a 3.

 

[BonesJones]

gotcha.

How did they offer him 10 million if they didn't have 10 million? S&T?

I think a lot of why teams didn't offer him that much was because of his health. His injury can be career changing.

It was rumored we wanted to sign ave trade for him but his agent blocked it. We were offering him $12M-$15M, and were apparently offering Harkless for him. Could've included Layman and Swanigan too.

 

[hoopsjock]

Why would Melo approve a trade to Atlanta unless they had a buyout already agreed upon and why would he come here instead of signing with Houston?

 

[BonesJones]

Why would Melo approve a trade to Atlanta unless they had a buyout already agreed upon and why would he come here instead of signing with Houston?

Because Atlanta would buy him out.

Because we were his 3rd choice after HOU and OKC. If not, we could promise a buyout.

 

[illmatic99]

4ys 52 mil for Marcus Smart with Boston. Done deal

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

4ys 52 mil for Marcus Smart. Done deal

Where?

 

[illmatic99]

Where?

Boston.

 

[H.C.]

So apparently OKC and ATL will come to agreement on Schroder, Muscala, and OKC's 2022 1st for Carmelo.

What a horrible move that'll be for Oklahoma City. Schroder can't play without the ball at all, and is an even worse shooter and defender than Carmelo. The best part of his offensive game is his passing, which will be neutralized by playing next to Russ and PG. Schroder would literally be subtraction by addition for them. They save money, but Presti would be smart to then try to turn Schroder into something else... Maybe Indiana would trade Collison for him, which would be a great move for OKC.

Schroder was a huge reason why I won my basketball fantasy league last year.
If he's on OKC... Will have to look elsewhere.

 

[illmatic99]

I guess Bjelica must've told the Sixers "I'm leaving the NBA" and they thought he was going back to Europe, but really he just meant he was going to the Kings.

He looks bad, but you can certainly understand it from his perspective. Sixers prolly told him he'd get PT off the bench but they then make a trade for a guy who plays his same position/role in Chandler. Now he gets to another team with a ton of players in his position, but has more $ guaranteed.

 

[illmatic99]

 

[Haakzilla]

...so is this line of thinking from Jabari Parker a millenial thing -or- just someone that doesn't really know the history of the NBA?!

"Look at everybody in the league. They don't pay players to play defense. There's only two people historically that play defense. I'm not going to say I won't, but to say that's a weakness is like saying that's everybody's weakness. Because I've scored 30 and 20 on a lot of guys that say they play defense."

"A better offense wins a championship," he said.

http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/...parker-says-better-offense-wins-championships

 

[Propagandist]

...so is this line of thinking from Jabari Parker a millenial thing -or- just someone that doesn't really know the history of the NBA?!

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Mindbogglingly idiotic. But also eliciting laughter. Perhaps he's a comic genius...?

 

[Sarni]

4ys 52 mil for Marcus Smart with Boston. Done deal

That’s quite cheap. Surprised Sacramento did not offer him a poison deal like $18million a year to see if Boston match.

 

[handiman]

...so is this line of thinking from Jabari Parker a millenial thing -or- just someone that doesn't really know the history of the NBA?!

It's a sign of someone who should have spent more time in school, or at least more time in class during his time in school.

Queue Charles Barkley, "I am not a role model"...

 

[Sarni]

He looks bad, but you can certainly understand it from his perspective. Sixers prolly told him he'd get PT off the bench but they then make a trade for a guy who plays his same position/role in Chandler. Now he gets to another team with a ton of players in his position, but has more $ guaranteed.

They got Bjelica after they already had Chandler I think so he would have known that.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

...so is this line of thinking from Jabari Parker a millenial thing -or- just someone that doesn't really know the history of the NBA?!

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He's only kind of wrong. The NBA has always been about which team can get their offense players to play great defense, not the other way around.

Ed Davis makes jack and is almost out of the league, Enes Kanter gets paid. Parker can score, but he won't be part of a championship quality team without a serious dedication to defense by him, and by the players he's surrounded by. Importantly, he doesn't need to be great, but he must be as good as he can be.

 

[handiman]

He's only kind of wrong. The NBA has always been about which team can get their offense players to play great defense, not the other way around.

Scottie Pippen, Ben Wallace, and Draymond Groin are a few counter-examples that spring immediately to mind, with championship rings to underline the point. They were/are offensively limited players who were terrors on defense. Pippen and DGroin were/are best as facilitators on offense. Pippen at least became fairly good at hitting open shots and was lethal on the fast break. DGroin can't hit anything other than unguarded 3's and dunks. But despite being primary ball handlers from the forward position, both were too stiff to be much good shooting off the dribble. So, definitely defensive players who become good enough on offense.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

Scottie Pippen, Ben Wallace, and Draymond Groin are a few counter-examples that spring immediately to mind, with championship rings to underline the point. They were/are offensively limited players who were terrors on defense. Pippen and DGroin were/are best as facilitators on offense. Pippen at least became fairly good at hitting open shots and was lethal on the fast break. DGroin can't hit anything other than unguarded 3's and dunks. But despite being primary ball handlers from the forward position, both were too stiff to be much good shooting off the dribble. So, definitely defensive players who become good enough on offense.

Think a little harder. I think you can come up with 5 or 6 more counterexamples out of the 100s and 100s offensive first players.

 

[handiman]

Think a little harder. I think you can come up with 5 or 6 more counterexamples out of the 100s and 100s offensive first players.

Sure, there are far more examples of offensive-minded players making it into the league, but that's a different topic. Guys who focus on defense usually are less naturally talented and have to adopt the blue collar mentality. Not many of them make it to the highest level.

 

[DDolla]

Tyson Chandler anyone? Suns trying to buy him out.

 

[Reep]

Tyson Chandler anyone? Suns trying to buy him out.

I can't see Portland wanting to take on that salary plus the tax for a backup center right now. If you could dump Leonard in the deal then maybe.

 

[RR7]

Tyson Chandler anyone? Suns trying to buy him out.

If bought out, I'd be interested in him for the minimum as a backup C to Nurk. But, at 15 players, we'd have to cut someone to do it.

 

[illmatic99]

Tyson Chandler anyone? Suns trying to buy him out.

Phoenix effectively chose Richaun Holmes over Chandler. I think Tyson is done.

 

[Scalma]

Phoenix effectively chose Richaun Holmes over Chandler. I think Tyson is done.

Phoenix is rebuilding, they have no need for chandler. He’d be a solid backup. Problem is if we didn’t want Davis, we won’t want Chandler. We’d have the same issues offensively.

 

[illmatic99]

Phoenix is rebuilding, they have no need for chandler. He’d be a solid backup. Problem is if we didn’t want Davis, we won’t want Chandler. We’d have the same issues offensively.

Well, Chandler at the minimum would be less of a tax hit than Davis. Nearly a 10 mil difference. If he can play spot minutes and be an injury insurance, I'm all for it. But bringing him in is like Stauskas -- you do that after you make all your trades and bigger moves (if there are any). Cutting someone just to take on Chandler now would only cause more clutter.

 

[hoopsjock]

Well, Chandler at the minimum would be less of a tax hit than Davis. Nearly a 10 mil difference. If he can play spot minutes and be an injury insurance, I'm all for it. But bringing him in is like Stauskas -- you do that after you make all your trades and bigger moves (if there are any). Cutting someone just to take on Chandler now would only cause more clutter.

They can carry 20 until right before the season starts.

 

[SlyPokerCat]

Chandler is a perfect mentor to Zach Collins. Skinny dude that learns to be a defensive force with good athleticism. Zach is already more talented offensively, but Chandler would be a good mentor for Zach nonetheless.

 

[RR7]