Free Agency

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Jesus.... Just looked. Green is still just 26. Been hearing that name for years. I shouldn't be surprised he's 26, but still a little surprising.

For reference, isn't Chris Johnson 27 or so...?

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

The Wolves are preparing a package for Pau Gasol, per Stein.

The Raptors will likely amnesty Calderon; Calangelo to meet with Nash in NYC with an offer of $12m/per.

PG: Rubio/Calderon
C: Gasol

The Spanish Armada?

 

[RR7]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

If it looks unlikely that we'll add a big name in free agency, I wonder if we'll continue with "asset acquisition", and either help another team clear cap room, or get below the luxury tax, and take a salary off of their hands for a minor asset.
Again, this is only if we strike out on possibilities.
Maybe you take on Petro and Farmar from Brooklyn to give them an addition 7.75 in space, in exchange for their pick, Houston's pick, something along those lines.
Take on Vince Carter, and get the rights to Jared Cunningham from Dallas?
Beno Udrih and the rights to...I dunno, Tobias Harris, Ekpeh Udoh, Larry Sanders
Salmons and Tyreke Evans.
Calderon and..ed davis?
Devin Harris and....
Will Houston find a take for Scola? Would they pay to move him, with 20 other PFs on the roster?

I dunno, just a thought, if actual effective acquisitions are unlikely, I wonder if cap space is best spent adding small pieces at a price.

 

[RR7]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Boozer another dump possibility. For other assets?

 

[BrianFromWA]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Depending on how serious we are about sucking this year and building around 22-year-olds...

Trade LMA to LA, Gasol to MIN, Derrick Williams and Wes Johnson and the MIN and LAL 2014 & 2016 (or 2018) draft picks to us. Or LMA to HOU, Scola to LA, Gasol to MIN and DWill/Johnson/Terrence Jones/MIN 2014/16 come back to us.

Toxic, front-loaded (but small) offer to Jeremy Evans of Utah. Something like 3/10, but signing bonus and loaded like Wes' was to where Miller has to pay ~4.5M cash on July 15 or he loses him.

If you want to kick the tires on Ilyasova or Hawes, fine...I'm not expecting that anything less than a massive overpay will get them, but you can try. Match Batum on anything less than 11M per.

See if SAC would swap Jimmer for Nolan and cash. Sign Henry Sims to a 2yr, min-guaranteed Pendergraph special. And see what SAS wants for Blair.

Lillard/Jimmer
Wes/EWill/Barton
Batum/Babbitt/W.Johnson
D.Williams/(T.Jones? Blair?)/Evans
Leonard/Thomas/Sims with either Hawes or Ilyasova (or neither) and buckets of cap room.

Suckfest this year, see what we have, use cap space to pick up expiring contracts from teams that want to get under lux tax and/or cap (and the draft picks or young players that come with it) and wait for the lotto.

 

[RR7]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Brooklyn and Atlanta are engaged in talks on a possible Joe Johnson trade, sources tell Y! Nets plan would be to pair with Deron Williams.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Brooklyn is in trouble with this GM.

-#6 for Wallace
-Trading for Joe Johnson

One of the most overrated players in the NBA with an anchor-contract.

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Run, Deron, RUN.

Unless it's to the West. Stay in the East.

 

[santeesioux]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Would that make Brook Lopez more attainable? Yeah their owner is just about the richest one in the league, but still, paying Johnson, Deron, Gerald, and other vets, will they be able to afford a large deal to Brook?

 

[VanillaGorilla]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

The Wolves are preparing a package for Pau Gasol, per Stein.

The Raptors will likely amnesty Calderon; Calangelo to meet with Nash in NYC with an offer of $12m/per.

PG: Rubio/Calderon
C: Gasol

The Spanish Armada?

Send them Claver! For.. Uh... Martell!!!

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

If it looks unlikely that we'll add a big name in free agency, I wonder if we'll continue with "asset acquisition", and either help another team clear cap room, or get below the luxury tax, and take a salary off of their hands for a minor asset.
Again, this is only if we strike out on possibilities.
Maybe you take on Petro and Farmar from Brooklyn to give them an addition 7.75 in space, in exchange for their pick, Houston's pick, something along those lines.
Take on Vince Carter, and get the rights to Jared Cunningham from Dallas?
Beno Udrih and the rights to...I dunno, Tobias Harris, Ekpeh Udoh, Larry Sanders
Salmons and Tyreke Evans.
Calderon and..ed davis?
Devin Harris and....
Will Houston find a take for Scola? Would they pay to move him, with 20 other PFs on the roster?

I dunno, just a thought, if actual effective acquisitions are unlikely, I wonder if cap space is best spent adding small pieces at a price.

im liking this
take on some obnoxious 1 year deals, and go for the gusto in 2013

 

[BBert]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Again, why Gordon? Injury prone SG that will command 10+ per season

I agree. I don't want to go there. Not a good fit with what we hope Lillard to become, anyway.

 

[BBert]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

I think Batum should look for the best offer he can get. Yeah it would be stupid for him or his agent to not sign a good contract just to give the Blazers a few days of extra cap room.

But the rhetoric from his agent is overly emotional and very odd to me. This is nothing personal against Batum from the Blazers perspective, all NBA teams strategically use cap space first then focus on their own free agents when they have small cap holds. Batum's agent has been saying they won't speak to the Blazers and the team disrespected his client, I don't see any advantage for them to play this bitter victim card.

I suspect its an inexperienced agent that doesn't know how to get the best deal for his client.

Is his agent foreign or what? Maybe he just doesn't understand how the business side works here. Either way, he's really coming off as a bitter douche.

 

[South East]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

I can't think of a time when there has been more uncertainty for the Blazers going into free agency? I don't remember not having a really good idea who the Blazers are targeting right before free agency. Even when the Blazers could only use the MLE it was pretty clear who they were going after.

 

[illmatic99]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Kevin Pritchard ‏@nbakev

1 hour and 45 minutes til free agent season!!!

 

[RR7]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

im liking this
take on some obnoxious 1 year deals, and go for the gusto in 2013

And who knows, maybe on top of the asset you get for taking it on, you can move them at the deadline for another asset.

 

[Blazinaway]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Minny did not offer QO's to beasley or A Randolph

 

[Draco]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Trading LaMarcus away would be a complete rebuild. He is only 26, with skills that should keep him effective well into his 30's, so I would not go that route just yet. Young potential talent and draft picks always look sexy when you don't have them but very few actually amount to become stud difference makers. For a LaMarcus trade to provide a benefit we'd need an incoming asset to develop into an all-star, then another one of those assets to become an above average starter. That is a very unlikely scenario.

I'd rather take the risk of building around LaMarcus for another couple years and see if we'll be able to field a contender while he is in his prime. If we can't do that in a few seasons then at that point go ahead and tear down the house. But right now it would be a waste of the glass half full roster we do have.

 

[RR7]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Trading LaMarcus away would be a complete rebuild. He is only 26, with skills that should keep him effective well into his 30's, so I would not go that route just yet. Young potential talent and draft picks always look sexy when you don't have them but very few actually amount to become stud difference makers. For a LaMarcus trade to provide a benefit we'd need an incoming asset to develop into an all-star, then another one of those assets to become an above average starter. That is a very unlikely scenario.

I'd rather take the risk of building around LaMarcus for another couple years and see if we'll be able to field a contender while he is in his prime. If we can't do that in a few seasons then at that point go ahead and tear down the house. But right now it would be a waste of the glass half full roster we do have.

Sorry if I screwed up quoting somehwere, I was in no way saying trade LMA. I am saying trade our cap space, if we get no good signings, for someone's unwanted pieces, as mentioned earlier, and hopefully get a young asset in addition, to potentially be that young all star

 

[RR7]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Dwight Howard wants to be traded to the Brooklyn Nets but he knows it's unlikely. That's why he's exploring legal options to nullify opt-in


Fuck this guy

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Trading LaMarcus away would be a complete rebuild. He is only 26, with skills that should keep him effective well into his 30's, so I would not go that route just yet. Young potential talent and draft picks always look sexy when you don't have them but very few actually amount to become stud difference makers. For a LaMarcus trade to provide a benefit we'd need an incoming asset to develop into an all-star, then another one of those assets to become an above average starter. That is a very unlikely scenario.

I'd rather take the risk of building around LaMarcus for another couple years and see if we'll be able to field a contender while he is in his prime. If we can't do that in a few seasons then at that point go ahead and tear down the house. But right now it would be a waste of the glass half full roster we do have.

This is the time to really cash in on LMA. Next years draft would be ideal but if you can do a Harden/Ibaka type of deal you do it.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Incarcerated Bob ‏@incarceratedbob
**BREAKING NBA NEWS**Source: PG Steve Nash has told friends he will sign with Toronto Raptors if they offer best deal. Ball in Raptors court

 

[Blazinaway]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Alex Kennedy ‏@AlexKennedyNBA
Dwight Howard wants to be traded to the Brooklyn Nets but he knows it's unlikely. That's why he's exploring legal options to nullify opt-in


Fuck this guy

if this is legit the guy proves once and for all he is total idiot

 

[RR7]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

that incarcerated bob guy, while he might be accurate at times, is such a tool. Him and a good chunk of his followers.

 

[The Professional Fan]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Did any of you hear Doug Gottlieb (sp?) filling in for Colin on Friday morning? He flat out is accusing Prokerov (sp?) of verbally giving an agreement to D-Will (and if true i'm assuming Howard as well) to pay him additional money under the table. Gottlieb's reasoning is based on his time playing in Russia. He recounts many times during the season the owner of the team he played for would come down to the locker room after a game and hand out cash to the players that had good games. This was above and beyond their contractual agreement. He thinks the same thing is happening with the Nets but obviously on a grander scale. I thought it was an interesting take, and fun to to ponder, but dismissed it completely until Howard's trade request today.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

common sense @duhmotherfucker
breaking news! a playerwill sign to whomever offers the most money 99% of the time! balls are in your mouth

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

The Rockets are trying to put together a package (any two of their three rookies + others) for Eric Gordon.

If Neil wants to I think we could trump this offer with Batum, whom the Hornets want.

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA
Y! Sources: Brandon Roy met with Minnesota officials on Friday in Seattle.

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

Did any of you hear Doug Gottlieb (sp?) filling in for Colin on Friday morning? He flat out is accusing Prokerov (sp?) of verbally giving an agreement to D-Will (and if true i'm assuming Howard as well) to pay him additional money under the table. Gottlieb's reasoning is based on his time playing in Russia. He recounts many times during the season the owner of the team he played for would come down to the locker room after a game and hand out cash to the players that had good games. This was above and beyond their contractual agreement. He thinks the same thing is happening with the Nets but obviously on a grander scale. I thought it was an interesting take, and fun to to ponder, but dismissed it completely until Howard's trade request today.

eddie d used to do this all the time with the niners, rolex watches, cars, gold, whatever

having the best of everything as far as amenities cant really hurt either as far as planes, hotels, etc

 

[3RA1N1AC]

Re: Now what? i.e. Free Agency

The Rockets are trying to put together a package (any two of their three rookies + others) for Eric Gordon.

dumb