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Just spitballing here so stay with me. Perhaps the PTB likes where we are at.


LOL
 
SharpesTriumph said:
Reported as 11 not the max 14.

Not sure exactly but they had to juggle a lot of salary for $62 million sign and trade for NAW.
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I agree that's what they gave him. Just saying they COULD have given him more.
They had a big TPE to do the NAW S&T.
 
RR7 said:
Then fucking leave. Nobody's asking you to stay and trying to keep you here. Lemme guess, you've said this for the past 8 offseasons, yet you still stick around.
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actually no.
I challenge you to try to find a post from me like that.
The decisions that have been made so far this off season are indefensible. Complete lack of direction. Once again. I know reality is hard to accept. I’m a diehard fan who has made excuses for the team time after time. Maybe it’s not my fault for finally breaking and maybe it’s actually the teams.
So far we’ve sent out Simon’s and Ayton.
Brought in Yang and Jrue holiday.

an absolute joke
 
blazedanugz said:
actually no.
I challenge you to try to find a post from me like that.
The decisions that have been made so far this off season are indefensible. Complete lack of direction. Once again. I know reality is hard to accept. I’m a diehard fan who has made excuses for the team time after time. Maybe it’s not my fault for finally breaking and maybe it’s actually the teams.
So far we’ve sent out Simon’s and Ayton.
Brought in Yang and Jrue holiday.

an absolute joke
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I don't see it that way. To me, by getting rid of Simons and Ayton (and maybe Grant) there's finally a clear direction. I'm actually looking forward to next year and watching the youth play.
 
noknobs said:
I don't see it that way. To me, by getting rid of Simons and Ayton (and maybe Grant) there's finally a clear direction. I'm actually looking forward to next year and watching the youth play.
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I do understand that but why bring in Jrue? It seriously makes no sense.
You couldn’t get anything else for Simons? his contract is through 2028 which is absolutely insane.
You are gonna have to extend Tou, Shaedon and scoot soon and they’ll actually be on reasonable contracts. The cap is going to incr are 7-10% for the next 3(?) years I think? We could have been in incredible shape financially in the near future.
Let’s not forget Jrue plays PG
let’s also not forget Jrue is extremely pissed he’s coming to Portland
 
Kinda like Amir Coffey. Something like 6m a year sounds about right.
 
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blazedanugz said:
I do understand that but why bring in Jrue? It seriously makes no sense.
You couldn’t get anything else for Simons? his contract is through 2028 which is absolutely insane.
You are gonna have to extend Tou, Shaedon and scoot soon and they’ll actually be on reasonable contracts. The cap is going to incr are 7-10% for the next 3(?) years I think? We could have been in incredible shape financially in the near future.
Let’s not forget Jrue plays PG
let’s also not forget Jrue is extremely pissed he’s coming to Portland
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12 months ago Jrue had a lot of trade worth. Yeah he had a bad season. Was it injuries or an inevitable decline? I'm guessing the Blazers are betting there's a chance he bounces back. Seems obvious the Blazers want a defensive identity and push to win now.

Now overall I graded the Jrue trade as a bad move, but I can see what the team is trying to do.

To me not getting that NOP/MIL pick is a bigger error if that was available.

I can understand not liking this off-season. But I don't understand this being a tipping point. It's been years of no consistent strategic direction and overpriced worthless vets. If your really bothered by this off-season seems like others should have bothered you too. Especially the Clippers trade, as well as the NurkAntGrant contracts.
 
blazedanugz said:
I do understand that but why bring in Jrue? It seriously makes no sense.
You couldn’t get anything else for Simons? his contract is through 2028 which is absolutely insane.
You are gonna have to extend Tou, Shaedon and scoot soon and they’ll actually be on reasonable contracts. The cap is going to incr are 7-10% for the next 3(?) years I think? We could have been in incredible shape financially in the near future.
Let’s not forget Jrue plays PG
let’s also not forget Jrue is extremely pissed he’s coming to Portland
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The Jrue acquisition is nonsensical. It makes no sense whatsoever. Unless he goes somewhere else
 
SharpesTriumph said:
12 months ago Jrue had a lot of trade worth. Yeah he had a bad season. Was it injuries or an inevitable decline? I'm guessing the Blazers are betting there's a chance he bounces back. Seems obvious the Blazers want a defensive identity and push to win now.

Now overall I graded the Jrue trade as a bad move, but I can see what the team is trying to do.

To me not getting that NOP/MIL pick is a bigger error if that was available.

I can understand not liking this off-season. But I don't understand this being a tipping point. It's been years of no consistent strategic direction and overpriced worthless vets. If your really bothered by this off-season seems like others should have bothered you too. Especially the Clippers trade, as well as the NurkAntGrant contracts.
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those trades did bother me but they were necessary.
These moves make no sense. It’s an accumulation of the last few years. Every off season is a disappointment.
Passing in that NO pick to draft Yang could end up being the biggest mistake Cronin made. Complete malpractice. That’s essentially getting that Yang is equal to a top 5 pick next year
 
GoZers said:
The Jrue acquisition is nonsensical. It makes no sense whatsoever. Unless he goes somewhere else
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im in minority I love the Jrue acquisition. You need vet leaders unlike Ayton you need guys who knows what it takes to win championships and will lead by example on the court. There won’t be a player on this team that doesn’t learn from Jrue. Oh and by the way he is still is still a damn good player. He might drop off over the next couple of years but by then hopefully our two guards have made the jump
 
1 Eye Jack said:
im in minority I love the Jrue acquisition. You need vet leaders unlike Ayton you need guys who knows what it takes to win championships and will lead by example on the court. There won’t be a player on this team that doesn’t learn from Jrue. Oh and by the way he is still is still a damn good player. He might drop off over the next couple of years but by then hopefully our two guards have made the jump
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I don't think you're in much of a minority. I don't fully understand the trade, but there are certainly things to like!
 
1 Eye Jack said:
im in minority I love the Jrue acquisition. You need vet leaders unlike Ayton you need guys who knows what it takes to win championships and will lead by example on the court. There won’t be a player on this team that doesn’t learn from Jrue. Oh and by the way he is still is still a damn good player. He might drop off over the next couple of years but by then hopefully our two guards have made the jump
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Everyone loves Jrue Holiday. He’s the most likeable guy in the league. He’s also 35 and very expensive for three years. Find another vet who can teach and lead who doesn’t cost $32m. If he plays he’s taking time from Scoot. If he sits he’s sitting there making $32m. It doesn’t make sense.
 
Might Jrue be a good mentor for Scoot, and possibly Shae?
 
BBert said:
Might Jrue be a good mentor for Scoot, and possibly Shae?
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He might but I think we might be picking him up a couple seasons too early to play that role, for his taste. I don't think that's good. I'm sure he'll be a pro and a good teammate but he won't look at Scoot and Shaedon as his mentees, he'll see them both as inferior guards who are set up to take his job and that's probably accurate. So it's probably another fucked situation engineered by Joe.

The dude just can't do it. He can't pick a fucking lane. It pushed Dame out the door. It's left us in a really weird and seemingly pointless spot since Dame was traded. It's probably unfair to just put it on Joe because I'd imagine it's actually because he has to do all sorts of weird shit to satisfy Bert but still the buck stops somewhere and this Jrue move stinks like the inability to pick a consistent direction. Sure we're a defense first team... great but the pieces are just slapped together in a weird way that's far too reminiscent of every Joe Cronin roster that we've had.
 
blazerkor said:
He might but I think we might be picking him up a couple seasons too early to play that role, for his taste. I don't think that's good. I'm sure he'll be a pro and a good teammate but he won't look at Scoot and Shaedon as his mentees, he'll see them both as inferior guards who are set up to take his job and that's probably accurate. So it's probably another fucked situation engineered by Joe.

The dude just can't do it. He can't pick a fucking lane. It pushed Dame out the door. It's left us in a really weird and seemingly pointless spot since Dame was traded. It's probably unfair to just put it on Joe because I'd imagine it's actually because he has to do all sorts of weird shit to satisfy Bert but still the buck stops somewhere and this Jrue move stinks like the inability to pick a consistent direction. Sure we're a defense first team... great but the pieces are just slapped together in a weird way that's far too reminiscent of every Joe Cronin roster that we've had.
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What the hell? He is most definitely picking a lane, and has built something special in a very short oder. There is work to be done, but they are looking good in the now and better in the future. Perfect
 
1 Eye Jack said:
im in minority I love the Jrue acquisition. You need vet leaders unlike Ayton you need guys who knows what it takes to win championships and will lead by example on the court. There won’t be a player on this team that doesn’t learn from Jrue. Oh and by the way he is still is still a damn good player. He might drop off over the next couple of years but by then hopefully our two guards have made the jump
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This team hasn't had an alpha player since Dame left...Jrue is an alpha player...he's a team captain, lockerroom and floor general...they need somebody with allstar pedigree to give us an identity..these are why teams hire Chris Paul's of the era..leadership. Jrue is that guy. I would expect him to get top billing from Mark Mason at home games.
 
GoZers said:
Everyone loves Jrue Holiday. He’s the most likeable guy in the league. He’s also 35 and very expensive for three years. Find another vet who can teach and lead who doesn’t cost $32m. If he plays he’s taking time from Scoot. If he sits he’s sitting there making $32m. It doesn’t make sense.
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he’s going to get 30-35 minutes a game backing up both guard positions or even possibly starting
 
Tince said:
I don't think you're in much of a minority. I don't fully understand the trade, but there are certainly things to like!
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Yeah I both love the trade for next season but recognize it as a likely bad move. Jrue is exactly the type of player every team wants. But paying a 37 year old that much isnt smart
 
maxiep said:
F***. These have been some of the most depressing weeks I can remember as a fan.
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Agreed. But I thought it may be like this when we started last season with Simons on the roster.

Once they decided to try and make the playoffs I knew this was what we were in for.

Fingers crossed that we just get so incredibly lucky and one of these guys pops like nobody ever thought could be possible.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I feel like the narrative has shifted. Yes we were never a destination for top tier free agents, but why are people acting like we couldn’t sign ANY free agents? That’s simply not true.
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We're going to have to overpay any free agents.
 
bemac said:
What the hell? He is most definitely picking a lane, and has built something special in a very short oder. There is work to be done, but they are looking good in the now and better in the future. Perfect
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A perfect offseason means we are gonna win the championship next year. Get the trophy room ready!
 
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