Free Agent Thread

[blazedanugz]

I guess I'm just wired to look at these moves from the other way around. There's absolutely no reason for Olshey to be stocking up on these guards unless a trade is in the works. I think they make the likelihood of CJ getting moved much greater than they would if Olshey was standing pat.

I dont see it is stocking guards.
Dame CJ simons norm will play.
Norm is starting at the 3….
Now you have mcelmore is a 2 only
Snell can play the 3

this isn’t stocking for a trade. This is stocking for a shitty team

 

[illmatic99]

TPMLE gone for the Lakers.

Presumably we still have ours...

Fucks sake, that's a great move. That guy can play! His numbers when Dragic was out were damn good

 

[wizenheimer]

I agree, It is crazy that FA is over, no more trades are allowed until next year. Oh wait, FA is still ongoing, Trades are just now starting to happen, but look out the sky has fallen in Blazer land.

Then what would you do?
I guarantee you literally anything you come up with is not hindered by these signings. Get a grip.
And I didn’t say any of that, don’t put words in my mouth.

you two are virtue-signalling patience and logic. And generically, you have a point

the counter to that is the history of Olshey's 9 seasons at the helm. And so far, this off-season, looks exactly like so many off-seasons that ended up failures.

> Meyers + Harkless for Whiteside....Turner for Bazemore...sign Hezonja & Tolliver...call it a summer

> go from Kanter to Zeller....sign McLemore and Snell. Now why exactly should we settle down and wait for a different result this time? Or something much bigger?

 

[B-Roy]

Fucks sake, that's a great move. That guy can play! His numbers when Dragic was out were damn good

 

[illmatic99]

Why the hell is a 25 yr old in his third year coming off a minimum contract chasing a title?

 

[perkinsfor3]

I just think it's Olshey, and maybe ownership:

1. players just don't want to play for them
2. FO doesnt believe players will sign and thus dont give it 100% effort
3. FO is incapable, and knows it
4. FO fears rejection and thus goes looking for easy targets
5. FO settles for easy targets, which dont take a lot of negotiation and conviction
6. rinse & repeat

 

[Scalma]

Dude, we literally have zero idea what’s going on behind closed doors. We all would like to see a trade that makes our roster more balanced, but in the mean time it’s fine to be active in FA. Catastrophizing over these signings makes zero sense, that’s my point.

no I think we should cry harder.

 

[B-Roy]

KOC said THJ turned down 4/88 from the Pelicans to return to the Mavs at 4/72.

I wonder if the Pelicans shot their shot at Norm as well and were rebuffed.

 

[Haakzilla]

I dont see it is stocking guards.
Dame CJ simons norm will play.
Norm is starting at the 3….
Now you have mcelmore is a 2 only
Snell can play the 3

this isn’t stocking for a trade. This is stocking for a shitty team

...or maybe a team getting ready to unload their franchise player

 

[blazedanugz]

Dude, we literally have zero idea what’s going on behind closed doors. We all would like to see a trade that makes our roster more balanced, but in the mean time it’s fine to be active in FA. Catastrophizing over these signings makes zero sense, that’s my point.

dude, all we’ve heard is we are standing pat.
Dude, Neil has never, on time, taken a swing
Dude, he let lamarcus walk for nothing

This is the norm. We are getting g a rude awaking that the organization doesn’t care about winning. Anything they’ve done has not shown us otherwise

 

[Fez Hammersticks]

Nunn to LA sucks.

The only counter to that would be snatching Horton-Tucker

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

Guys I would rather have had than Ben and Snell:
Justise Winslow
Elfrid Payton
Frank Ntilikina
Denzel Valentine
Wesley Matthews
James Ennis III
Wayne Ellington
E'Twaun Moore
Matthew Dellavedova
Langston Galloway
Tyler Johnson
Georges Niang
Isaac Bonga
Kendrick Nunn
Khem Birch
Troy Daniels
Moritz Wagner
Sindarius Thornwell
Mike James
Shaquille Harrison
Tyler Bey
Gary Clark
Frank Mason III
Tremont Waters
Nathan Knight
Justin Jackson
Quinndary Weatherspoon


I predicted we'd get Snell (and Felicio) though. Ah well.

Maybe NO put this list, plus Snell and Ben, in front of Dame and asked him to choose.

 

[B-Roy]

Nunn to LA sucks.

The only counter to that would be snatching Horton-Tucker

 

[B-Roy]

 

[e_blazer]

I dont see it is stocking guards.
Dame CJ simons norm will play.
Norm is starting at the 3….
Now you have mcelmore is a 2 only
Snell can play the 3

this isn’t stocking for a trade. This is stocking for a shitty team

And what about Ant and DJ Jr?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

In 47 games last year, Snell had an efg% of .696. That is awesome. Even the year before it was .597 in 59 games, Mc Collum had .554 and .522 in those years.

 

[Rastapopoulos]

Zachary LaVine got a fuckton more help than Dame did this offseason.

 

[Haakzilla]

...I wonder if LeBron had to bribe everyone with "fake" roles in Space Jam 3?!

 

[Strenuus]

This...we got rid of broken Zach..Melo..Blevins..Hood and Trent Jr and Giles and Kanter
We're going into a new chapter with Norm, Zeller, Snell, McLemore, Brown and a couple two way 6'8 wings as well as a Mudiay and Michael Beasley...not sure where folks see such a huge dropoff
and we still probably make one more deal before the season

Dude if that's not a huge drop-off our team last year fucking sucked.

It's not that much better AND THIS is the one year we need to go for it all and we get snell, zeller, mcclemore.

So pardon the people who see the writing on the wall that this isn't a vast improvement. It fucking sucks compared to what should be happening which is actually TRYING to do something.

There is no counter argument, don't even attempt one cause it won't work.

 

[wizenheimer]

KOC said THJ turned down 4/88 from the Pelicans to return to the Mavs at 4/72.

I wonder if the Pelicans shot their shot at Norm as well and were rebuffed.

well...if they were willing to pay 88M for Hardaway, maybe they'd be willing to pay 100M to CJ...?

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

A writer in Atlanta really liked Snell, at least during his hot streak:
"If there is one Hawk who has best exemplified the style of basketball that the team has played to string together their best winning streak in years, it might be Snell. Interim Head Coach Nate McMillan urges his players to pass the ball from one side of the court to the other. Snell does that. He wants defenders doing everything that they can to stay in front of their assignments to prevent penetration and the subsequent defensive rotations. Snell does that, too.

Additionally, late in games, McMillan wants his players to remain "calm, clear, and connected". And, boy oh boy, does Snell ever do that. At one point, McMillan said that younger players occasionally have a tendency to get "emotionally drunk" in big moments late in games. Without honing in on the precise definition of that phrase, it is easy to identify that Snell is the 180-degree opposite, and he has demonstrated his poise time and again during the winning streak.

In addition to being a trusted perimeter defender in a newly fierce late-game defense, Snell has hit pivotal shots in each of the three close games during the streak. After Houston came back from a 23-point deficit to tie the game in the fourth quarter, Snell hit a pair of threes late to give the Hawks some breathing room. Against Toronto, it was the game-winning three at the buzzer. In a stirring comeback over Orlando, he hit a pair of threes late that prompted high praise from Trae. "

https://www.nba.com/hawks/features/tony-snell-not-emotionally-drunk

 

[UKRAINEFAN]

I am being so positive today! Snell has a 7'0' wingspan, longer than John Collins.

 

[Strenuus]

It's more that this is in line with Olshey's modus operandi for the last 9 years. We've seen this movie.

This is the truth.

 

[B-Roy]

A writer in Atlanta really liked Snell, at least during his hot streak:
"If there is one Hawk who has best exemplified the style of basketball that the team has played to string together their best winning streak in years, it might be Snell. Interim Head Coach Nate McMillan urges his players to pass the ball from one side of the court to the other. Snell does that. He wants defenders doing everything that they can to stay in front of their assignments to prevent penetration and the subsequent defensive rotations. Snell does that, too.

Additionally, late in games, McMillan wants his players to remain "calm, clear, and connected". And, boy oh boy, does Snell ever do that. At one point, McMillan said that younger players occasionally have a tendency to get "emotionally drunk" in big moments late in games. Without honing in on the precise definition of that phrase, it is easy to identify that Snell is the 180-degree opposite, and he has demonstrated his poise time and again during the winning streak.

In addition to being a trusted perimeter defender in a newly fierce late-game defense, Snell has hit pivotal shots in each of the three close games during the streak. After Houston came back from a 23-point deficit to tie the game in the fourth quarter, Snell hit a pair of threes late to give the Hawks some breathing room. Against Toronto, it was the game-winning three at the buzzer. In a stirring comeback over Orlando, he hit a pair of threes late that prompted high praise from Trae. "

https://www.nba.com/hawks/features/tony-snell-not-emotionally-drunk

There's nothing wrong with Snell in a vacuum. It's everything on the periphery.

 

[calvin natt]

Guys I would rather have had than Ben and Snell:
Justise Winslow
Elfrid Payton
Frank Ntilikina
Denzel Valentine
Wesley Matthews
James Ennis III
Wayne Ellington
E'Twaun Moore
Matthew Dellavedova
Langston Galloway
Tyler Johnson
Georges Niang
Isaac Bonga
Kendrick Nunn
Khem Birch
Troy Daniels
Moritz Wagner
Sindarius Thornwell
Mike James
Shaquille Harrison
Tyler Bey
Gary Clark
Frank Mason III
Tremont Waters
Nathan Knight
Justin Jackson
Quinndary Weatherspoon


I predicted we'd get Snell (and Felicio) though. Ah well.

Huh? Dellavedova? That’s crazy. Hes not even in the league anymore

 

[riverman]

There is no counter argument, don't even attempt one cause it won't work.

you can meltdown if you like....choices. Given we had very little wiggle room and a new staff and coach...I don't think it's time for the angst patrol to shit fire about shoring up our bench...our bench defense will be better..and we still have spots to fill and trade possibilties...I think you just have a need for these sort of posts....I'm not your sparring partner Stren...I'm sure someone else around here will accomodate you though...I have no reason to not enjoy the offseason and you can make up one if you need it...

 

[wizenheimer]

A writer in Atlanta really liked Snell, at least during his hot streak:
"If there is one Hawk who has best exemplified the style of basketball that the team has played to string together their best winning streak in years, it might be Snell. Interim Head Coach Nate McMillan urges his players to pass the ball from one side of the court to the other. Snell does that. He wants defenders doing everything that they can to stay in front of their assignments to prevent penetration and the subsequent defensive rotations. Snell does that, too.

Additionally, late in games, McMillan wants his players to remain "calm, clear, and connected". And, boy oh boy, does Snell ever do that. At one point, McMillan said that younger players occasionally have a tendency to get "emotionally drunk" in big moments late in games. Without honing in on the precise definition of that phrase, it is easy to identify that Snell is the 180-degree opposite, and he has demonstrated his poise time and again during the winning streak.

In addition to being a trusted perimeter defender in a newly fierce late-game defense, Snell has hit pivotal shots in each of the three close games during the streak. After Houston came back from a 23-point deficit to tie the game in the fourth quarter, Snell hit a pair of threes late to give the Hawks some breathing room. Against Toronto, it was the game-winning three at the buzzer. In a stirring comeback over Orlando, he hit a pair of threes late that prompted high praise from Trae. "

https://www.nba.com/hawks/features/tony-snell-not-emotionally-drunk

lol....good ship lollypop reporting

here's something else, last season, Snell went from averaging 21 minutes in the regular season to 7 minutes in the playoffs with 9 DNP-CD's

seems like the Blazers should have learned the value of that lesson from the Derrick Jones signing

 

[B-Roy]

well...if they were willing to pay 88M for Hardaway, maybe they'd be willing to pay 100M to CJ...?

I am positive they would be open to a deal. But we need to find a 3rd partner who wants NO's assets.

 

[Blazer509]

Color me unimpressed for signing guys who probably would be playing in China were it not for Neil.

Snell's 0.6 ppg in the playoffs is awe-inspiring.

These moves don't indicate the sense of urgency we needed to see after the stuff with Dame a week ago.

You don’t have to be impressed, that’s the thing. Nobody said these were needle movers.

 

[B-Roy]

lol....good ship lollypop reporting

here's something else, last season, Snell went from averaging 21 minutes in the regular season to 7 minutes in the playoffs with 9 DNP-CD's

seems like the Blazers should have learned the value of that lesson from the Derrick Jones signing

Oh they did! Snell is being paid 2.3 million instead of 19M!