Game Thread GAME# 1: NUGGETS @ BLAZERS - OCTOBER 23, 2019 - WEDNESDAY, 7:00 (PDT), ESPN & NBCSNW

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From top to bottom, is Portland's roster this year more talented than last year's?


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He's a utility 3 and D player. If the 3s not falling yes he's worthless but not sure what y'all were expecting if you've ever seen him play.

You're not wrong. 32 times in his 665 game career he's logged a 0/0 (points/rebounds). I guess the good news is he only plays this shitty 4.8% of the time?

Most of the time the coach yanks him much more quickly. Stotts gave him the second longest leash of minutes on that list.

I doubt Stotts makes that mistake again. He's got other options.
 
More talented?

We beat that team in the playoffs last year with less talent then we have now.

1) Talent was pretty equal last year. 2) Their returning talent is very established, while ours has a lot of questions to be answered. 3) Grant was a tremendous addition for them on paper, being a near-perfect fit.
 
You're not wrong. 32 times in his 665 game career he's logged a 0/0 (points/rebounds). I guess the good news is he only plays this shitty 4.8% of the time?

Most of the time the coach yanks him much more quickly. Stotts gave him the second longest leash of minutes on that list.

I doubt Stotts makes that mistake again. He's got other options.

Think about it this way: How bad do you have to be to make Terry Stotts of all people change his rotation after only one half !
 
Not saying much, but this was Meyers last night in a start.

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So yeah. I guess it can get worse.
 
We lost the game because...

1) Only 13 assists and 20 turnovers, which means there was very little ball movement.

2) 3 of our 4 guards were a combined 8 of 32 from the field.

Despite giving up a lot of uncontested 3's the overall defense was decent and at times looked elite with the starting lineup especially.
I watch them in preseason when they push the ball up the floor both units. Last night right back to the half court majority of the time. Right now the 2nd unit can't play half court offense to much thinking how to initiate it especially with Mario last night. That unit has to get the boards and run for now until they get use to the half court stuff.
 
Outside of Damian's assists, the team had *5* assists. And 1 off the bench (and that came from Skal).

A lot of the lack of cohesiveness was still getting to know the new guys, but also just such predictable offense.
to log an assist the guy you pass to has to make a shot....we shot in the mid 20s percentage wise...that's going to reflect in the assist numbers
 
to log an assist the guy you pass to has to make a shot....we shot in the mid 20s percentage wise...that's going to reflect in the assist numbers
Last year, 60% of field goals leaguewide were assisted. Blazers were below that, but still averaged a little over 54%. Last night--13 assists on 36 made field goals, or 36%. The Blazers would have had to have converted 10 of those "missed assists" just to get up to a 50% assisted figure.

This wasn't an issue of people just missing shots; this was an issue of players trying (inefficiently) to create offense for themselves rather than looking to create open shots for others.
 
1) Talent was pretty equal last year. 2) Their returning talent is very established, while ours has a lot of questions to be answered. 3) Grant was a tremendous addition for them on paper, being a near-perfect fit.
Plus Michael Porter Jr. > Anfernee Simons
 
CJ doesn’t need 20 shots if he’s not hitting them, we’re past that stage.

Skal should’ve gotten more looks. He was getting his shot off pretty easily. He has a versatile offensive skillset. Utilize it. Then again the amount of times he was wide open on the roll and CJ just ignored him....ahh fuck it it’s only one game.
 
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CJ still has no clue playing basketball. Your shots are not falling, why not drive and get to the line? I know shooters shot but sometimes you need to use your BBIQ.
 
CJ still has no clue playing basketball. Your shots are not falling, why not drive and get to the line? I know shooters shot but sometimes you need to use your BBIQ.
He did drive though, he had a bunch of attempts near the basket and just couldnt get them to fall. He has never really gotten calls, some of that may be on him, but to say he didnt drive is incorrect.
 
Denver kept CJ from creating his shot or getting to the rim most of the night...credit their defense....not that CJ didn't dribble 200 times trying to get open ..we threw Denver the ball trying to pass out of traffic so many times last night that guys started not trusting the pass. What needed to improve most from my view was our perimeter d and setting some screens so our 3 pt shooters can get a good shot off...we missed those monster screens Nurk, Big Ed and even Meyers used to set at the key....Skal Zach and Hassan need to set better screens before rolling to the paint
 
Denver kept CJ from creating his shot or getting to the rim most of the night...credit their defense....not that CJ didn't dribble 200 times trying to get open ..we threw Denver the ball trying to pass out of traffic so many times last night that guys started not trusting the pass. What needed to improve most from my view was our perimeter d and setting some screens so our 3 pt shooters can get a good shot off...we missed those monster screens Nurk, Big Ed and even Meyers used to set at the key....Skal Zach and Hassan need to set better screens before rolling to the paint
Not to pile on, but keep an eye on Whiteside. Dude barely even makes contact on screens.
 
Not to pile on, but keep an eye on Whiteside. Dude barely even makes contact on screens.
That's why I mentioned Zach Skal and Hassan.....they all set weak screens ..Mason Plumlee gave his three pt shooters half and hour to shoot last night...great screens
 
If a player goes to set a screen and the defender goes and double teams your teammate with the ball before you set the screen, should you continue with that screen or slip it?
This wasn't just last night, and it wasn't just the obvious slip plays. He barely touches guys when he actually intends to screen, and when he does, he has been getting called for moving screens. Hardly ever creates enough separation to give Dame a passing lane. It needs work.
 
This wasn't just last night, and it wasn't just the obvious slip plays. He barely touches guys when he actually intends to screen, and when he does, he has been getting called for moving screens. Hardly ever creates enough separation to give Dame a passing lane. It needs work.
I agree the screens are not creating much seperation, but I think they're are a few issues with chemistry and the screeners, the guards are also going to early causing silly fouls on the screener, the screeners also need to do a better job of wide.
 
I agree the screens are not creating much seperation, but I think they're are a few issues with chemistry and the screeners, the guards are also going to early causing silly fouls on the screener, the screeners also need to do a better job of wide.
This isn't an isolated situation. He's had history with poor screening, and didn't really acknowledge that he was the problem before.

http://heatzone.blog.palmbeachpost....en-setting-problems-guys-arent-being-patient/
 
This wasn't just last night, and it wasn't just the obvious slip plays. He barely touches guys when he actually intends to screen, and when he does, he has been getting called for moving screens. Hardly ever creates enough separation to give Dame a passing lane. It needs work.
Hassan has been a "slip" guy his whole career though. If teams double Dame out of the pick and roll it doesn't matter if you have the best screen setter of all time on the floor. I'm pretty confident that you've watched the playoffs the last couple years, right?

How about this crazy idea: Instead of trying to get struggling shooters more shots in a game like last night why not us the pick and roll to create an advantage to get the guy who was 6-7 from the field some more buckets at the rim? A majority of our 3 point looks were good shots so I didn't think the screens were the problem.
 
Hassan has been a "slip" guy his whole career though. If teams double Dame out of the pick and roll it doesn't matter if you have the best screen setter of all time on the floor. I'm pretty confident that you've watched the playoffs the last couple years, right?

How about this crazy idea: Instead of trying to get struggling shooters more shots in a game like last night why not us the pick and roll to create an advantage to get the guy who was 6-7 from the field some more buckets at the rim? A majority of our 3 point looks were good shots so I didn't think the screens were the problem.
I'm not sure it's that easy to get Hassan more shots, he's not exactly nimble of foot and his range is like 3-5 feet? They did a good job of trying to get him the ball when he slipped and he did an alright job of getting the ball to the corners when someone rotated between him and the basket, just guys weren't hitting shots. The real issue to me is that his screens just weren't creating much separation for the guards when they would try to penetrate from the screen.
 
This isn't an isolated situation. He's had history with poor screening, and didn't really acknowledge that he was the problem before.

http://heatzone.blog.palmbeachpost....en-setting-problems-guys-arent-being-patient/
Denver knows us. They know how badly we rely on pick and roll. They went all out to stop Dame and CJ. When teams do that we need to trust the other guys on the floor. Honestly the bigs (except Tolliver) all did their job last night for the most part.
 
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