How is a screen supposed to generate separation if the other team is doubling the ball handler?
It wasn't creating any space even when they didnt double though, and even when they did the screens are set to begin with to create space and yes, Nurks / ML’s created more than what theyve gotten preseason + the Denver game.
Zach gave our guards some open shots last night. But some of that our guards fault not using the screen correctly. Dame does decent job by using screen. The others goes to wide off the screen and that's allows the defender go through the open or screeners get offense foul for moving. Yes some of the screen are not good due the man trying going to fast try to get in the PNR.
It's timing...we don't have it yet..where the guy wants the ball, where he wants the screen...how long before rolling off the screen..looked clumsy all night last night but that will look much better by Xmas in my view
helps if your big is planted and executed the pass to the guard before setting it....Plumlee is great at that...so were Nurk and Meyers. I noticed our bigs only standing ground on a screen for a split second...not taking up space and giving a barrier to the second guy trying to double team. Point being we were impatient with screens and our guards weren't catching and shooting off a screen...they were dribbling in traffic
Skal matched up with Plumlee and Zach matched up with Millsap......I'd say that was sort of a difference maker
you want overreacting, go to the trail blazers forum page on facebook. about to leave that page cause it is mostly overreacting nonsense.
Odd that you chose to cut off my question half way through and just ignore the part I was asking about.
Same on a random article I read on O-Live. People shitting themselves. Crazy. They should read the article Shaboid just posted. One game. That's all it was....
The guards got plenty of open looks. Were they getting better looks off screens against Denver in the playoffs last year? The answer to that is no.
how is my opinion cutting off your question? and why do you assume I'm ignoring part of your post? I don't need to be right about this...it's all speculation from me watching the game once...no replay, just a response. I'm not real big on dissecting everything people post so if I missed a point, that is just me being conversational...
I'll give my cliff note response here.....I mentioned before...it's obvious we don't have timing in our offensive flow at all yet, guys are overthinking and they need to make shots...clankfest was a virus amongst our shooters last night...passing was predictable. If CJ makes 3 or 4 more shots we might win that game last night even with an awkward looking chemistry
This is my point. The screens themselves were not the issue. Denver knows exactly what we're trying to do and if our guards in particular just hit a few shots we still win the game.
You realize that Meyers didn't play much, and Nurk was out in that series vs. Denver right... Kanter isn't a great screen setter either. I'd actually say that your answer is wrong though. I think at least the main ball handlers in the series vs Denver did get better shots in the playoffs then they got overall last night.
Yes I hope so but the screening been issued for awhile. Even when Nurk and Leonard was yes they made some good screen when the guards use them accurately. But this not up top screen needs to be good it's the off ball screen must be just as good.
At the start of the 3rd quarter we should've went right at Jokic to try and pick up his 4th foul. Whiteside doesn't have the greatest post up moves but we still should make a point to try and reward him for his work on the boards and at least try to get him involved when he hasn't missed.
I remember Hood posting up Barton a few times and destroying him in the first half....don't remember that in the second half at all though
lol... Seriously because a couple of us said that we didn't think the screens were very good, that means we're giving a pass to every other aspect of the offense? It's like if we don't address what you tell us too then we aren't addressing the right things! We could think both the offense and the screens need work. Using last year's series vs. Denver to talk about the screens seems weird when we didn't have Nurk and we had Kanter with one shoulder, and ML didn't play that much. Zach was like the only healthy big left that got minutes.
I think those were both times where he got the ball on the perimeter and backed him into the post. Hood creating a shot isn't the same as getting him the ball in positions to exploit the mismatch easier.
Hmmm, Zach played 19, 17, 18, 21, 21, 28, and 23 minutes in each game. We must not have ran pick and roll hardly at all then or set many screens in that series huh? LMAO
We aren’t as good of a defensive team this year as last. Regardless of how people felt about chief and mo, they will be missed on the defensive end.
Ok, and that proves what? What other Healthy bigs played a lot? Meyers didn't and Nurk was out, it was mostly an Unhealthy Kanter and Aminu who isn't really a "big" he's a 3/4 that plays mostly 4.
I think things will be "ok" defensively once guys are used to playing with each other. The defense is more of a team game in today's NBA than a one on one thing. My big take away from last night was it'll be a challenge to get everyone on the same page on both ends of the court. They're professionals though they'll get there.
My point this entire time is that if a team's defensive focus is to take away the ball handler by doubling them when the screener comes over then how good the screen is has absolutely no bearing on how effective the play will be. Even Nurk's screens were completely ineffective against New Orleans when they trapped the pick and roll.
My point is that sometimes the screens ARE the problem, not always but it doesn't hurt to have a good screen set. My other point is we can mention that we didn't think the screens were very good AND also have other issues with the offense and play calls. I think Whitesides (especially) his screens are poor, but I also think they should go away from that at times too. Saying one thing doesn't mean I'm "ignoring" or excusing the other things. Just means I notice it, and I noticed it in the preseason too and they didn't play Denver every game in the preseason...
Hmmm, the starting lineup had only allowed 7 points after 7 minutes into the game and the lineup at the end of the 1st half only allowed 5 points in over 4 minutes. They only gave up 19 points the entire 3rd quarter too. That is potentially elite. Neither Chief or Moe played with the 2nd unit last year much so if you judge them with the starters versus the starters this year you can't really say that "we aren't as good of a defensive team" until it actually plays out that way.
