Game Thread GAME# 5: BLAZERS @ HEAT - OCTOBER 27, 2018 - SATURDAY, 5:00 PM (PDT), NBCSNW

[BonesJones]

CJ made only 7/20 fg... again, he took 20 shots, 2x more than next players while shooting under 40%... and many of them were on possessions where no one else touched the ball... his ISO ball prevented any other player from getting consistent looks and building a rhythm... even when his shots are falling, this style of play is not good for the success of the franchise

People see 20 shots and just automatically assume it's ISO Ball, because they can't pay enough attention. At least 80% of his shots came within the flow of the offense. A few came on fastbreaks. He barely isolated but people can't see the difference between going 7/20 in the flow of the offense and going 7/20 on isolations.

 

[beast blazer]

Cjs one on one is game is terrible. But he thinks he's great.

 

[Chris Craig]

Hopefully, the Blazers fare better in Indiana. It is not going to be any easier.

 

[BonesJones]

It is very selfish basketball and not in line with what the rest of the team is doing.

Oh, do you think he isolated a bunch too?

 

[KingSpeed]

Without looking at the numbers, I bet we are getting killed on offensive rebounds so far this year.

Going into tonight, we were second in the NBA in total rebounds.

 

[TBpup]

People see 20 shots and just automatically assume it's ISO Ball, because they can't pay enough attention. At least 80% of his shots came within the flow of the offense. A few came on fastbreaks. He barely isolated but people can't see the difference between going 7/20 in the flow of the offense and going 7/20 on isolations.

He wasn't that ISO tonight but he still CONSTANTLY misses open teammates when he has the ball and draws multiple defenders to him.

 

[Gronk Brady]

Blazers had only 14 assists... thats what happens when CJ plays ISO ball

 

[Scalma]

It is very selfish basketball and not in line with what the rest of the team is doing.

He had two assists. Again. For a guy that has the ball in his hands as much as he does, and the way he was shooting, that’s ridiculous.

 

[BonesJones]

He wasn't that ISO tonight but he still CONSTANTLY misses open teammates when he has the ball and draws multiple defenders to him.

He missed passes, yes. But he took pretty good shots and its the people that can't pay enough attention to a game that think he played ISO ball.

 

[BonesJones]

Blazers had only 14 assists... thats what happens when CJ plays ISO ball

C.J. didn't play any ISO ball this game dude. Pay attention. Blazers having 14 wasn't because C.J. was isolating, because he wasnt. The hole team missed shots except Dame, who had to create pretty much everything on his own.

 

[DollaBel]

Dame is absolutely on fire recently just by the way. He’s gotta be close to leading the league in ppg. Unfortunately we wasted that this game

 

[Jade Falcon]

C.J. didn't play any ISO ball this game dude. Pay attention. Blazers having 14 wasn't because C.J. was isolating, because he wasnt. The hole team missed shots except Dame, who had to create pretty much everything on his own.

He played a big role in choking this game away though.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

The dude averaging 24pts and 16reb per 36 on 58% 2pt shooting coming into this game is not a liability... Maybe defensively though.

His stats are fine sure, but he’s getting benched a lot for a reason. Tonight he had more turn overs than made fg’s. He has way too much of a tendency to put up weak shots. On defense he’s not mobile enough to do anything when he gets switched, he just sags back and watches guys hit 3’s.

 

[BonesJones]

He played a big role in choking this game away though.

I dont disagree and that's not my point.

 

[BonesJones]

His stats are fine sure, but he’s getting benched a lot for a reason. Tonight he had more turn overs than made fg’s. He has way too much of a tendency to put up weak shots. On defense he’s not mobile enough to do anything when he gets switched, he just sags back and watches guys hit 3’s.

He's been finishing strong to start the season...

 

[Jade Falcon]

I dont disagree and that's not my point.

Your problem Bones is that you take one or two positives with CJ, stick to them, and ignore the 8 or 9 other issues that people counter you with about him.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

He's been finishing strong to start the season...

He’s been better at it finishing strong, yes but he’s still got a tendency to throw up weak looking shots. Dont get me wrong, Im not saying Nurkic’s career is done, or that he sucks. Im hust saying its concerning to me that especially on defense he has been really dissapointing. Offensively at times too, but yes he’s been better at finishing.

 

[beast blazer]

I was a nurk fan. But I honestly think his numbers look better than his actual play. I'm not saying he's bad, but he scores a lot of garage points, and fumbles the ball a lot. And misses a lot inside.

 

[oldmangrouch]

He missed passes, yes. But he took pretty good shots and its the people that can't pay enough attention to a game that think he played ISO ball.

OK, so he missed shots and open team-mates despite staying within the flow of the offense. I'm not sure that is grounds for optimism going forward.

 

[KingSpeed]

CJ is quietly shooting great from 3 point range this year and no one seems to notice.

 

[TorturedBlazerFan]

I was a nurk fan. But I honestly think his numbers look better than his actual play. I'm not saying he's bad, but he scores a lot of garage points, and fumbles the ball a lot. And misses a lot inside.

To be fair I really am not a Stotts fan at this point, and I think Stotts rotations are questionable, and he allows his bigs (ALL of them) to be put in bad situations way too much.

 

[KingSpeed]

Dame is absolutely on fire recently just by the way. He’s gotta be close to leading the league in ppg. Unfortunately we wasted that this game

He was third coming into tonight’s game. I think behind Blake Griffin and Curry. Kemba has been killing it too. Blake only had 7 tonight.

 

[TBpup]

CJ is quietly shooting great from 3 point range this year and no one seems to notice.

He is....but he's also shooting .382 overall which is the bigger picture and clouds over his 3-pt percentage. That and his very low assist total and poor Asst/TO ratio combined with very poor defense and if he's not shooting it well, he contributes very little. He really needs his own team away from Dame and I think he would be much better.

 

[Scalma]

He is....but he's also shooting .382 overall which is the bigger picture and clouds over his 3-pt percentage. That and his very low assist total and poor Asst/TO ratio combined with very poor defense and if he's not shooting it well, he contributes very little. He really needs his own team away from Dame and I think he would be much better.

He’d be interesting in Minnesota

 

[Jade Falcon]

He is....but he's also shooting .382 overall which is the bigger picture and clouds over his 3-pt percentage. That and his very low assist total and poor Asst/TO ratio combined with very poor defense and if he's not shooting it well, he contributes very little. He really needs his own team away from Dame and I think he would be much better.

THANK YOU!

 

[KingSpeed]

He is....but he's also shooting .382 overall which is the bigger picture and clouds over his 3-pt percentage. That and his very low assist total and poor Asst/TO ratio combined with very poor defense and if he's not shooting it well, he contributes very little. He really needs his own team away from Dame and I think he would be much better.

You are right. I was just pointing out the one thing he is doing well. They’ve been pretty clutch at the right time too.

 

[KingSpeed]

He’d be interesting in Minnesota

I want Butler without losing CJ. That is how we contend.

 

[Strenuus]

I want Butler without losing CJ. That is how we contend.

I don't know if there's a way for that to happen without killing our bench.

 

[Scalma]

I want Butler without losing CJ. That is how we contend.

If we don’t give up CJ were probably giving up Collins. I’d rather give up CJ. Easy.

 

[Chris Craig]

Cjs one on one is game is terrible. But he thinks he's great.

He is too damned predictable