Game Thread GAME# 6: 76ERS @ BLAZERS - NOVEMBER 2, 2019 - SATURDAY, 7:00 PM, NBCSNW

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CupWizier said:
It was simple enough for you to blame Stotts for the loss for not switching. So why isn't it as simple the other way? Appears there is a bias in your response.
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First off, the poor coaching led to being in that situation to begin with but...

There is no excuse for not switching all picks with 2 seconds left, doesn't matter what the result is. Lamar Hurd said it on the broadcast before the play that this situation is automatic switch on all picks. Do you disagree with him?

If Tolliver switches on Korkmaz and he hits a contested 3 then fine.

If Dame gets stuck on Horford and he posts him up or gets an easy 2 on him then fine, we still have OT.

If Horford gets Dame to switch on him and makes a contested 3 then fine.


There is also no reason to guard the inbounder in that exact situation. With 2.2 seconds left Simmons doesn't have enough time to get to the basket for a 2. He's literally never made an NBA 3 point shot so if he makes his first NBA 3 to win the game then fine you live with that but with that amount of time left there isn't really a situation where he'd get a great shot anyway.
 
Shoulda coulda woulda....the guy hit a buzzer beater with .4 seconds on the clock....credit the man for hitting that game winner....it was no free throw. We fought hard but 84 pts in the paint by them, it wasn't that shot that kept them in the game.....losing this game with a 10 man roster and no bigs isn't cause for a meltdown or a chance to rekindle Stotts hate....we played great small ball for most of the game but really had no answer for Horford...the dude took over in the paint when they made their run. Better to lose short handed by a one point margin coming off a long road trip then lose when we have a healthy starting roster...I found some things to look forward to in this game from our role players.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
Lillard was not out of position. The guy Tolliver was guarding set a screen that blocked Lillard from following Korkmaz. Tolliver should have switched onto Korkmaz but instead he he backed into the paint. At least that is what I saw. I don't think Stotts told them not to switch, so to me, that's on the veteran Tolliver.
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Probably not a bad take. I would have liked to be in the timeout huddle before that play.
 
riverman said:
Shoulda coulda woulda....the guy hit a buzzer beater with .4 seconds on the clock....credit the man for hitting that game winner....it was no free throw. We fought hard but 84 pts in the paint by them, it wasn't that shot that kept them in the game.....losing this game with a 10 man roster and no bigs isn't cause for a meltdown or a chance to rekindle Stotts hate....we played great small ball for most of the game but really had no answer for Horford...the dude took over in the paint when they made their run. Better to lose short handed by a one point margin coming off a long road trip then lose when we have a healthy starting roster...I found some things to look forward to in this game from our role players.
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My biggest question was where was Skal in the 4th.
 
hoopsjock said:
Yay, good effort Blazers! Moral win!

You've got to be fucking kidding me.
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Bro that’s enough coffee for you today. Maybe the time change has you discouraged?
Point was and still is Blazers played a tough opponent with a bunch of injuries. They played well for the most part and are now playing.500 ball. Every loss has been against good teams and they have not played a game yet this year they have not been competitive in.
This was not a bad loss in my opinion. Tough loss yes. Bad loss no.
 
kjironman1 said:
Bro that’s enough coffee for you today. Maybe the time change has you discouraged?
Point was and still is Blazers played a tough opponent with a bunch of injuries. They played well for the most part and are now playing.500 ball. Every loss has been against good teams and they have not played a game yet this year they have not been competitive in.
This was not a bad loss in my opinion. Tough loss yes. Bad loss no.
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The 76ers played like ass that game and we handed it to them on a silver platter. Did you watch the game?
 
BonesJones said:
The lack of people questioning why we didnt switch on that last defensive play has me scratching my head.

Also, why wasnt Hezonja in?

Also also, why did Skal not play more?

Also also also, what was that offense we ran during crunch-time?

Anyone find a common theme?
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Common theme is... FIRE OLSHEY! Stotts has made miracles out of a terrible roster for 7 seasons!
 
hoopsjock said:
Ha ha ha ha, you can't question ANYTHING! Stotts does no wrong.

@riverman is happy with the moral victory!
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moral victory? I'm happy with bench player progress, defense and that we had a shot to win this one...I don't think you sound too happy in general about it though...I enjoyed the game last night and would have loved to get the win...when you guys go after Stotts you lose my attention.. I like his approach to the game...I like the team...I can handle a slip up 5 games in. My moral victory is a victory of my own temperament hoops......watching game thread meltdowns and angst over play calling isn't my thing....I'm still cheering ...don't know why you seem so challenged by this...the last shot of this game was a prayer that luckily went in....we didn't lose this game with that shot...we lost it in the paint and with turnovers
 
riverman said:
Shoulda coulda woulda....the guy hit a buzzer beater with .4 seconds on the clock....credit the man for hitting that game winner....it was no free throw. We fought hard but 84 pts in the paint by them, it wasn't that shot that kept them in the game.....losing this game with a 10 man roster and no bigs isn't cause for a meltdown or a chance to rekindle Stotts hate....we played great small ball for most of the game but really had no answer for Horford...the dude took over in the paint when they made their run. Better to lose short handed by a one point margin coming off a long road trip then lose when we have a healthy starting roster...I found some things to look forward to in this game from our role players.
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Thanks for a voice of reasoning. Seems so many in this forum have to have a scapegoat whether it be Stotts, Olshey, CJ, Tolliver or whoever else fits their need.
 
riverman said:
moral victory? I'm happy with bench player progress, defense and that we had a shot to win this one...I don't think you sound too happy in general about it though...I enjoyed the game last night and would have loved to get the win...when you guys go after Stotts you lose my attention.. I like his approach to the game...I like the team...I can handle a slip up 5 games in. My moral victory is a victory of my own temperament hoops......watching game thread meltdowns and angst over play calling isn't my thing....I'm still cheering ...don't know why you seem so challenged by this...the last shot of this game was a prayer that luckily went in....we didn't lose this game with that shot...we lost it in the paint and with turnovers
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Like I said, can't even question Stotts. He's so perfect!

I'm glad you're entertained by blowing a 21 point 2nd half lead at home and losing.
 
riverman said:
Shoulda coulda woulda....the guy hit a buzzer beater with .4 seconds on the clock....credit the man for hitting that game winner....it was no free throw. We fought hard but 84 pts in the paint by them, it wasn't that shot that kept them in the game.....losing this game with a 10 man roster and no bigs isn't cause for a meltdown or a chance to rekindle Stotts hate....we played great small ball for most of the game but really had no answer for Horford...the dude took over in the paint when they made their run. Better to lose short handed by a one point margin coming off a long road trip then lose when we have a healthy starting roster...I found some things to look forward to in this game from our role players.
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I greatly appreciate your continous optimism towards the team. Seriously. 6 games in and we're at .500. Cool! Let's win the next one!
 
Terry Stotts has cost us multiple wins in an early season. It seems like he's sabotaging Dame and the rest of the team.
 
hoopsjock said:
The 76ers played like ass that game and we handed it to them on a silver platter. Did you watch the game?
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Yeah I watched it. Did you happen to maybe think they played poorly because they were playing on the road against a fairly good team even though the Blazers were decimated by injuries? Just a thought?
 
riverman said:
moral victory? I'm happy with bench player progress, defense and that we had a shot to win this one...I don't think you sound too happy in general about it though...I enjoyed the game last night and would have loved to get the win...when you guys go after Stotts you lose my attention.. I like his approach to the game...I like the team...I can handle a slip up 5 games in. My moral victory is a victory of my own temperament hoops......watching game thread meltdowns and angst over play calling isn't my thing....I'm still cheering ...don't know why you seem so challenged by this...the last shot of this game was a prayer that luckily went in....we didn't lose this game with that shot...we lost it in the paint and with turnovers
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God Bless you, riverman....
I'd probably wanna hang around if 5% of the posters in here had your talent of reasonable observation.
But, alas...they don't.
And no, I won't let the door hit me on the way out.
 
CupWizier said:
why do you enjoy being this way and attacking posters on a consistent basis because they don't see it the same way as you? It gets old as in the past couple days it's been Tortured, kj and now riverman who are all some of the better and classiest posters in this forum which is a rarity.
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Me too, cup..
 
hoopsjock said:
Like I said, can't even question Stotts. He's so perfect!

I'm glad you're entertained by blowing a 21 point 2nd half lead at home and losing.
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credit the other team once in a while for actually making a run and earning that win last night....I enjoy good basketball on both sides of the court...we just came up short...I trust Stotts game decisions way more than I trust your critique of his coaching....and if you feel great about your opinion, why not just do that instead of belittling fans for supporting their own experience around here? Nobody is perfect...but Stotts let's them have a chance to make a mistake...it's part of what I like about his team culture. Sometimes you sound like you need a Bobby Knight coaching by screaming and throwing chairs around the place.....I was never a fan of that guy
 
kjironman1 said:
Yeah I watched it. Did you happen to maybe think they played poorly because they were playing on the road against a fairly good team even though the Blazers were decimated by injuries? Just a thought?
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When Stotts took Skal out with about 4:45 left up 8 points the rest of the game was basically just trying to run out the clock. There weren't really any plays being ran, just a bunch of standing around and hoping Dame does something. The thing was Dame was doing something because of Skal. There were multiple screens Skal got Dame a wide open 3. Skal was doing well slipping the pick when Dame was doubled as well.

The overall premise of your question though is why I'm so upset. The Blazers ARE a good team, even with the injuries. With the tough schedule and injuries you have to finish games like this. It doesn't really matter how ugly you win as long as you win. The road trip was a perfect example of this. The Blazers didn't play particularly well in any of the games but found a way to win 3 of the 4, thanks mostly to Dame.
 
riverman said:
credit the other team once in a while for actually making a run and earning that win last night....I enjoy good basketball on both sides of the court...we just came up short...I trust Stotts game decisions way more than I trust your critique of his coaching....and if you feel great about your opinion, why not just do that instead of belittling fans for supporting their own experience around here? Nobody is perfect...but Stotts let's them have a chance to make a mistake...it's part of what I like about his team culture. Sometimes you sound like you need a Bobby Knight coaching by screaming and throwing chairs around the place.....I was never a fan of that guy
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This has nothing to do with the style of coaching. Tolliver said after the game that the gameplan was to not switch the picks with 2 seconds left. Even Hurd on the broadcast mentioned that any coach should be telling their team to switch all picks in that situation.

But I can't question that with the Stotts police telling me the 76ers just "made a tough shot" and "had a good run"? Honestly guys, you have provided no answers to the Stotts criticism other than that you don't like people that criticize him. This is why I'm getting into it with several of you. Why are we not allowed to discuss something as simple as switching picks. It is such a simple concept that every coach should know in that situation.
 
riverman said:
...but Stotts let's them have a chance to make a mistake...it's part of what I like about his team culture....
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And our leader deferred to the youngster with that pass. Sure, the team lost the game. However, Simons will remember that shot for the rest of his life. To me, this is the greatest thing that happened in the game. Simons KNOWS he can hit the crucial shot, and IMHO; is gonna make many more like that in the future. Just like Dame has...

Yes, tough loss. There was a huge win in there though.
 
hoopsjock said:
When Stotts took Skal out with about 4:45 left up 8 points the rest of the game was basically just trying to run out the clock. There weren't really any plays being ran, just a bunch of standing around and hoping Dame does something. The thing was Dame was doing something because of Skal. There were multiple screens Skal got Dame a wide open 3. Skal was doing well slipping the pick when Dame was doubled as well.

The overall premise of your question though is why I'm so upset. The Blazers ARE a good team, even with the injuries. With the tough schedule and injuries you have to finish games like this. It doesn't really matter how ugly you win as long as you win. The road trip was a perfect example of this. The Blazers didn't play particularly well in any of the games but found a way to win 3 of the 4, thanks mostly to Dame.
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In the end good teams find a way to win. The Blazers had found a great shot in the corner and Simmons made the shot. That was really nice to see.
Equally Philly is a good team and they found an open guy with .4 seconds left and he made a shot. I'm betting their fans are pretty happy about that shot.

ENTERTAINMENT! That is why my original post that you quoted said "Good Game. Tough Loss. Hope Hood is OK". Tell me exactly what is wrong with that take?
 
hoopsjock said:
First off, the poor coaching led to being in that situation to begin with but...

There is no excuse for not switching all picks with 2 seconds left, doesn't matter what the result is. Lamar Hurd said it on the broadcast before the play that this situation is automatic switch on all picks. Do you disagree with him?

If Tolliver switches on Korkmaz and he hits a contested 3 then fine.

If Dame gets stuck on Horford and he posts him up or gets an easy 2 on him then fine, we still have OT.

If Horford gets Dame to switch on him and makes a contested 3 then fine.


There is also no reason to guard the inbounder in that exact situation. With 2.2 seconds left Simmons doesn't have enough time to get to the basket for a 2. He's literally never made an NBA 3 point shot so if he makes his first NBA 3 to win the game then fine you live with that but with that amount of time left there isn't really a situation where he'd get a great shot anyway.
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How come none of you respond to this post?
 
hoopsjock said:
When Stotts took Skal out with about 4:45 left up 8 points the rest of the game was basically just trying to run out the clock. There weren't really any plays being ran, just a bunch of standing around and hoping Dame does something. The thing was Dame was doing something because of Skal. There were multiple screens Skal got Dame a wide open 3. Skal was doing well slipping the pick when Dame was doubled as well.

The overall premise of your question though is why I'm so upset. The Blazers ARE a good team, even with the injuries. With the tough schedule and injuries you have to finish games like this. It doesn't really matter how ugly you win as long as you win. The road trip was a perfect example of this. The Blazers didn't play particularly well in any of the games but found a way to win 3 of the 4, thanks mostly to Dame.
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You don't drop games at home after leading by 20+. These are bad losses any way you slice it
 
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