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Yeah, if Kreider's O/U for goals next regular season was 49.5 I would not hesitate to hammer the under. He will be closer to 30 than 50 by a wide margin.
Game 6 will Panarin ever find his small nuts?
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One thing on Gallant, while it is very clear Strome shouldn't have played, and scratching Kakko was absolutely the wrong move, at least he tried to mix it up. I have to give him credit for that.
At days end TB played excellent D, Panarin had two even strength points in 13 games, and the team as a whole had 1 even strength goal in the last 4 games. I cannot kill Gallant for that. Only so much a coach can do.
At days end TB played excellent D, Panarin had two even strength points in 13 games, and the team as a whole had 1 even strength goal in the last 4 games. I cannot kill Gallant for that. Only so much a coach can do.
Zib, Kreider and Panarin all have awful contracts and NMCs so i know it can't happen, but i'd move on from them. They've all been here long enough and we've seen they're not going to be the ones to lead this team anywhere and turn the team over to the future.
I don't love his presser here though...LOL. But it is tough to face the press after a really tough L. I don't want to hear about the 7 and 7, that is on us for going 7 and 7.
Lost 3 one goal games, two with goals against the last two minutes, and one tonight late in the 3rd. That is so tough to take.
Lost 3 one goal games, two with goals against the last two minutes, and one tonight late in the 3rd. That is so tough to take.
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There has to br more to this Kakko thing...the way Gallant shut down the question
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Yeah, that was pretty obvious. Gallant does not like Kakko it seems though!
Z is a very good player, and is a C, which we need badly, I am good with him. I really am.
Kreider is only at $6.5M per. That is not a terrible deal. I don't love it I agree, but he has a few good years left. At that cap hit he scores 30 per and he is well worth it.
Panarin is the one to me. He has by far the biggest cap hit, his game does not translate at all to the playoffs, he is soft, never looks to shoot. He is a regular season player, that is clear. He is the guy I try and move, but realize it will be very unlikely.
I have to be honest, I just haven't seen it with Kakko. I know that is polarizing to write in here, I don't want to get into is it him is it the coach back and forth again, but I just have not seen it with this kid. Look at Kakko vs. Lafreniere, and it isn't close. Both treated the same way, yet Lafreniere is about to explode and Kakko looks lost to me.
With all that said, Kakko is so young so still plenty of time to be what we all want him to be, so by no means writing him off at all, and I would have played him tonight, but I just haven't seen it at all with him. He looks really lost to me.
We also said the last coach had an issue with Kakko also. HHHMMMMM...
With all that said, Kakko is so young so still plenty of time to be what we all want him to be, so by no means writing him off at all, and I would have played him tonight, but I just haven't seen it at all with him. He looks really lost to me.
We also said the last coach had an issue with Kakko also. HHHMMMMM...
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There's a lot of good that can be said about this season. It was fun and they certainly made deeper than I imagined. That said they were up 2-0 in the series and up 2-0 in game three with a chance to put their foot on Tampa's throat. They changed their play entirely from that point on.
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Missing half a year will do that.
It’s not terribly unlikely as he is worth more than what he has signed here for. But his NMC is why it won’t happen. Really wish we would stop giving those out or at least give players only a limited NMC. Give us 10 teams you won’t go to every year and that’s that. Enough with full NMCs. Beyond stupid and handcuffs us from building a complete team.
I agree - still an open book on where he will go. But today right now I have not seen much from him to be this guy we all make a big deal out of not playing, or ice time, or the impact he can have on the game. I write that while saying he would have played tonight if I were the coach, but I also don't think it would have really mattered. He has a lot of work to do on his game.
Kakko’s got injury issues, which is a concern. He has flashes where he shows what he can be, but he’s still not filling out like he should be. He plays like a 0anarin but without the skill. He’s had games where he’s put it together, but not often enough. I don’t have an issue with trading him as he doesn’t seem to fit Gallant and Gallant isn’t going anywhere until after next season (his track record says he will be fired in year 3 which concerns me about our guys regressing back to their norms). Someone is gonna give him an offer sheet though and then our hands are tied.
That’s the reason why I half joked to wait and see where Strome goes and try to trade him there.
In the right deal, for a proven big # 2 C, I deal Chytil and/or Kakko for sure. We have plenty of wingers. Need a C.
As for players regressing to the norm, who exactly are we talking about? Kreider, yeah that one is clear. But even still I think we get 35 from him, and at $6.5M per that is good.
But who else? Panarin always scores a ton of points. Z had a Z type season. Fox has done it back to back years. I don't see this as a bunch of players having career years. If anything I think Miller and Lafreniere have way more to give, and will starting next season.
As for players regressing to the norm, who exactly are we talking about? Kreider, yeah that one is clear. But even still I think we get 35 from him, and at $6.5M per that is good.
But who else? Panarin always scores a ton of points. Z had a Z type season. Fox has done it back to back years. I don't see this as a bunch of players having career years. If anything I think Miller and Lafreniere have way more to give, and will starting next season.
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How the hell does Kreider have another game without a shot on goal?
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Gallant is a fucking loser. He did some good things but at the end of the day, he got bailed out by Igor having an amazing season, and Kreider having an unbelievable season. Drury made the team better after the trade deadline. Gave him a better team and he still fucked it up. Hire Messier back in some capacity and give him a bigger role in the organization. You need winning leadership in this organization. Gallant has won jack shit as a player or as a coach.
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It's ridiculous. They went up 2-0, were leading 2-0 in game three and suddenly were tired?
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You already have Drury who has been a winner then you add Mess.
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Then might as well get rid of Drury if you want that shadow over him.
One thing I agree with you on regarding Gallant Step, I did not like his presser at all. That was a loser presser on his part. Blaming fatigue, not really answering questions, he needs to do much better than that. I'll give him a break right after the game, but that was a really weak effort by Gallant, and makes me question him a bit.
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What do you want him say..he said exactly what everyone on here was saying..they looked a step behind..they looked flat..they looked tired
Sorry but I completely disagree with this. Say what Z said, this is the ECF, nothing to do with fatigue. Not I'm so happy you brought that up, because we were tired and it caught up to us. That is a big reason our O went to sleep. That is loser excuse talk - it just is.
And flat and tried in the ECF, man the F up. Coach them out of it. Now I am getting angry, because loser oh I am tired talk is a joke. Youngest team in the playoffs, in he ECF, and we whine about fatigue. Do better coach.
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How long before we hear about what injury Fox is having fixed this off-season? A week?
And I am not saying the team wasn't worn down, or beat up, they were, but welcome to the NHL playoffs. TB has played 700 playoff games the past 3 seasons, they are pushing through. Youngest team in the playoffs. Is that why Panarin had two even strength points in 13 games? Give me a break. Man up and don't make excuses. Weak.
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Pretty sure people were talking about rust as an excuse and how tampa wasn't aharp..well if that's a legit excuse playing 20 high intensity games in 40 days is an excuse too.
What ever...I predicted tampa in 6..not because of anything but the fact they simply have more experienced winners.