Game Thread GAME# 71: KNICKS @ BLAZERS - MARCH 23, 2017 - THURSDAY, 7:00 PM (PST), KGW (1 Viewer)

[-Ace-]

Dame Time is the last 2 mins of the game. That wasn't Dame Time, that was Ball Hog Time. Bad, very bad.

Not according to some guy sitting in my row. As soon as Damian made his first shot of the third quarter - "AIN'T NO GAME WITHOUT DAME!" "OH IT'S LILLARD TIME!" "WHAT TIME IS IT, Y'ALL??" Then every foul on us wasn't actually a foul, and any missed free throws resulted in, "COME ON, HE DOESN'T SHOOT THAT BAD IN 2K!"

 

[BonesJones]

Would you trade the Cleveland pick for him?

If we could get another big time piece, yeah.

 

[KingSpeed]

The guy got paid and just doesn't give a shit anymore. One year of basketball got him 70M, now he can enjoy it!

Bullshit. He's having a great year. He's arguably the best shooter in the league. He would've been a star in Brooklyn.

 

[BonesJones]

Bullshit. He's having a great year. He's arguably the best shooter in the league. He would've been a star in Brooklyn.

The only dude who'd argue he's the best shooter in the league is you.

 

[Po'sFinest]

The only dude who'd argue he's the best shooter in the league is you.

Do you realize he shoots the 2nd or 3rd best 3point percentage in the whole league?

Mind you it's on a TON of attempts

 

[BonesJones]

Would you trade the Cleveland pick for him?

Hell, we could probably get O'Quinn for Napier and a 2nd or two.

 

[BonesJones]

Do you realize he shoots the 2nd or 3rd best 3point percentage in the whole league?

Mind you it's on a TON of attempts

1.) All of those are created by others
2.) He doesn't shoot many
3.) He hasn't proven its sustainable at 44%
4.) His shooting doesn't open up other areas of his game.

 

[Scalma]

Do you realize he shoots the 2nd or 3rd best 3point percentage in the whole league?

Mind you it's on a TON of attempts

Don't even waste your time, the Crabbe hate has blinded these idiots.

He's the fourth most important player on the team behind the the dame, Nurk, CJ trio. I don't even want to think what our team would look like without him on it. His shooting bails this team out so many times it's ridiculous.

 

[Scalma]

Hell, we could probably get O'Quinn for Napier and a 2nd or two.

Maybe if we lived in a fantasy world.

 

[Po'sFinest]

1.) All of those are created by others
2.) He doesn't shoot many
3.) He hasn't proven its sustainable at 44%
4.) His shooting doesn't open up other areas of his game.

Huh? JJ reddick doesn't go one on one and hit 3s in people's face.

He shoots like four 3s a game which is pretty above average and still hits for one of the best 3point shooters for the league

He's been shooting above 40% from 3 all season. Just because he doesn't do stupid heat check 3s with 22 seconds left on the shot clock like Lillard does means he hasn't proven it? lol Lillard never even shot above 40% from 3 in his career.

Play like him Rip Hamilton period

Crabbe is nice your hella trippin

 

[Scalma]

What's hilarious regarding Crabbe is everyone was loving him last season, yet he's one of the most hated on players this season. What changed? Certainly not his play. He's even better this year.

 

[Po'sFinest]

What's hilarious regarding Crabbe is everyone was loving him last season, yet he's one of the most hated on players this season. What changed? Certainly not his play. He's even better this year.

Because they think the 70 Million he got is on the old salary cap. It's a perception thing.

 

[Scalma]

Huh? JJ reddick doesn't go one on one and hit 3s in people's face.

He shoots like four 3s a game which is pretty above average and still hits for one of the best 3point shooters for the league

He's been shooting above 40% from 3 all season. Just because he doesn't do stupid heat check 3s with 22 seconds left on the shot clock like Lillard does means he hasn't proven it? lol Lillard never even shot above 40% from 3 in his career.

Play like him Rip Hamilton period

Crabbe is nice your hella trippin

"He doesn't create for himself" is the dumbest argument I've ever heard, like the only way for a player to be quality scorer in the NBA is to beat guys off the dribble.

 

[Po'sFinest]

I bet you if Crabbe scored like 3-4 more points a game they wouldn't say shit. Not thinking he plays with one of those most shoot first players in the league (dame and Cj)

 

[Po'sFinest]

"He doesn't create for himself" is the dumbest argument I've ever heard like the only way for to be quality scorer in the NBA is to beat guys off the dribble.

Thank you. Bonesjones wants him to go one on one and kill players like he's Paul George or something lol

Crabbe is like Korver, JJ Reddick, etc so please use him like that

 

[Scalma]

Thank you. Bonesjones wants him to go one on one and kill players like he's Paul George or something lol

Crabbe is like Korver, JJ Reddick, etc so please use him like that

And he's more than just catch and shoot. He's got a dribble pull-up, he's got a floater, he was effective running the pick and roll with Ed Davis last season, and he's awesome running off of screens. Living in Cali, I watched a lot of him in college and he was deadly in those situations and its translated to the NBA as well. How is that not creating for himself btw? He's doing most of the work, running around. All a big does is set a screen and all the ballhandler does is pass him the ball.

 

[Blazer4ever]

I Watched just the first half, the Knicks don't have much so it's not really a good sample size but what I liked - and I'm talking about my argument in the other thread that Napier should play when Dame or CJ sit instead of the Crabbe and Turner lineup - is that when Stotts did use that ET-Crabbe lineup it was usually with Aminu at the 4 and Leonard at the 5. This makes it kind of acceptable to me, it gives us enough spacing and creativity to make this somehow work

 

[BonesJones]

Thank you. Bonesjones wants him to go one on one and kill players like he's Paul George or something lol

Crabbe is like Korver, JJ Reddick, etc so please use him like that

LMFAO.

I just want him to handle the ball like an NBA guard. He has one of the worst handles in the NBA for a 2-guard. He can't attack the rim at all, and isn't as good of a shooter coming off screens.

He's also only an average mid-range shooter.

You give him more shots, his efficiency goes down. You give him a bigger role, his efficiency goes down. The only reason he shoots such a high percentage is that CJ and Dame create wide open looks for him.

Crabbe is not Korver or Redick. The dude shoots 44% from 3, but only makes 1.5 a game. Small sample size. If Lillard only shot wide open spot up 3s, he'd shoot just as well as Crabbe. But somebody has to create shots, and it's sure as hell not gonna be Crabbe.

There's more to basketball than a percentage. Don't sit here saying "BonesJones wants..." then make up bullshit.

 

[BonesJones]

And he's more than just catch and shoot. He's got a dribble pull-up, he's got a floater, he was effective running the pick and roll with Ed Davis last season, and he's awesome running off of screens.

I don't think he's good off of screens at all.
Let's look at Crabbes ORTG when shooting from mid-range and floater areas:

3ft-10ft: 80 ORTG
10ft-16ft: 90 ORTG
16ft-3pt: 88 ORTG

So yes, he knows how to pump fake, dribble, then shoot, but he's not effective at it.

The stats show that a Crabbe dribble pull-up and a Crabbe floater are bad shots.

 

[BonesJones]

@Scalma @Po'sFinest Would both of you really make the argument that Crabbe is the best shooter in the entire league?! Better than Curry? Thompson? McCollum? Korver? Redick???

 

[GDiama]

Bullshit. He's having a great year. He's arguably the best shooter in the league. He would've been a star in Brooklyn.

When you have the tools defense is all about effort which he doesn't show. Yes he is a great SPOT shooter, but its the only think he does well. We cannot pay 18M someone thats just shoots, then lets bring RayRay back from the dead and pay him a fortune. He didnt improve any other aspect of his game at an acceptable level.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Hurd just mentioned HCP!

Like I've been saying. Worst announcers in the league

 

[Cippy91]

@Scalma @Po'sFinest Would both of you really make the argument that Crabbe is the best shooter in the entire league?! Better than Curry? Thompson? McCollum? Korver? Redick???

Scalma has a hard dick for Crabbe for whatever reason. No point in debating it since he puts people on ignore for disagreeing with him about Crabbe

 

[Mediocre Man]

@Scalma @Po'sFinest Would both of you really make the argument that Crabbe is the best shooter in the entire league?! Better than Curry? Thompson? McCollum? Korver? Redick???

I consider great shooting as 3 point shooting. Flawed, but that's the syance I have. It's a stupid stance to say he is the best shooter. Especially since he is only the 3rd best. Ahead of everyone on your list except Korver.

Crabbe has easily lived up to his contract

 

[Mediocre Man]

Scalma has a hard dick for Crabbe for whatever reason. No point in debating it since he puts people on ignore for disagreeing with him about Crabbe

You make this sound like a bad thing?

 

[PtldPlatypus]

I consider great shooting as 3 point shooting. Flawed, but that's the syance I have. It's a stupid stance to say he is the best shooter. Especially since he is only the 3rd best. Ahead of everyone on your list except Korver.

Crabbe has easily lived up to his contract

I might agree, if he took a high enough volume of shots to make the connection rate of value. 1.6 threes made per game is not particularly significant. If he were taking 9 a game and making 4, that would have a much greater impact on the team.

 

[illmatic99]

Scalma has a hard dick for Crabbe for whatever reason. No point in debating it since he puts people on ignore for disagreeing with him about Crabbe

Is this how you talk to (or about) people in real life?

 

[illmatic99]

Dame is averaging 31-6-5 on nearly 50/40/90 in 15 games after the all star break. This is quite possibly the best stretch of his career so far. His efficiency is staggering. This improvement has brought his overall season numbers up to 27-6-5 pm 45/37/90 shooting splits.

 

[PtldPlatypus]

Dame is averaging 31-6-5 on nearly 50/40/90 in 15 games after the all star break. This is quite possibly the best stretch of his career so far. His efficiency is staggering. This improvement has brought his overall season numbers up to 27-6-5 pm 45/37/90 shooting splits.

But he missed three free throws on Tuesday, and shot a 30 footer with 18 left on the shot clock, so he's a bum.

 

[Scalma]

Scalma has a hard dick for Crabbe for whatever reason. No point in debating it since he puts people on ignore for disagreeing with him about Crabbe

I put stupid people on ignore when they say stupid things like "he got paid, he doesn't care any more."

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