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illmatic99 said:
8:44 mark.



Josh did not need to do this. Love this guy. Hate that he had to go.
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We discarded the exact type of player we need. This franchise seems to be in love with undersized no defense tweeted guards like Simons.
 
I have to laugh that when the accusations against the Blazers came out, allllll of these Twitterheads were jumping on the Blazers.

Now that more information is coming forward that refutes it, all those same people are "He said/she said ... I don't know what to believe."
 
For whatever it is worth, I recently became acquainted with a guy who played at OSU with Payton. He still talks to him every once in awhile, and he admitted that Payton really wanted to stay with GS but that GS couldn't afford him at that particular time, so he took the best offer he got. The feeling I got (with no actual evidence to back it up....other than what is transpiring) is that Payton and GS never completely gave up on each other. Current events seem to be playing out that way......
 
Freshtown said:
we can’t pay him. It was a great piece of business to get a first for someone that is about to walk in 5 months.
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But we could pay Nurk 70million, Simon's 100 million? We gave Payton what $40 million?

I lean towards voting for the Hart trade, but it's stupid to say the Blazers couldn't pay him, they've paid more for inferior players.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
But we could pay Nurk 70million, Simon's 100 million? We gave Payton what $40 million?

I lean towards voting for the Hart trade, but it's stupid to say the Blazers couldn't pay him, they've paid more for inferior players.
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Norm Powell and Josh Hart are 2s that played 3 for us. I get shooting aint Josh's strength but he'd be an awesome SG. Unbelievable rebounder and one-man fastbreak
 
inconceivable said:
Norm Powell and Josh Hart are 2s that played 3 for us. I get shooting aint Josh's strength but he'd be an awesome SG. Unbelievable rebounder and one-man fastbreak
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Instead we've decided to go with year 11 of playing a PG at SG.
 
WesleyMatthews said:
But we could pay Nurk 70million, Simon's 100 million? We gave Payton what $40 million?

I lean towards voting for the Hart trade, but it's stupid to say the Blazers couldn't pay him, they've paid more for inferior players.
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I wanted Portland to keep Hart. But I knew it was going to be tight if he got more money than his current salary. There seemed to be rumblings that he wanted quite a bit more and that he was also unlikely to re-sign with Portland. Maybe he didn't like the role that Chauncey asked him to play...I don't know

and yeah, I still believe Nurk and Ant got paid too much
 
WesleyMatthews said:
Instead we've decided to go with year 11 of playing a PG at SG.
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We wanted the Blazers to trade CJ and move Trent to starting 2; they said "No", and then traded Trent for Powell.

We wanted the Blazers to trade CJ and move Powell to starting 2; they said "No", and then traded Powell for Winslow and Keon.

They finally traded CJ for Hart. We wanted the Blazers to have Ant come off the bench and start Hart at the 2; they said "No".

When we saw it wasn't working with Ant at the 2, we wanted the Blazers to trade Ant and move Hart to starting 2; they said "No" and traded Hart for Reddish.

It's been quite monotonous these past few years.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
We wanted the Blazers to trade CJ and move Trent to starting 2; they said "No", and then traded Trent for Powell.

We wanted the Blazers to trade CJ and move Powell to starting 2; they said "No", and then traded Powell for Winslow and Keon.

They finally traded CJ for Hart. We wanted the Blazers to have Ant come off the bench and start Hart at the 2; they said "No".

When we saw it wasn't working with Ant at the 2, we wanted the Blazers to trade Ant and move Hart to starting 2; they said "No" and traded Hart for Reddish.

It's been quite monotonous these past few years.
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Every single GM in the league would take Simons over Hart as their starting guard. don't be delusional.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
We wanted the Blazers to trade CJ and move Trent to starting 2; they said "No", and then traded Trent for Powell.

We wanted the Blazers to trade CJ and move Powell to starting 2; they said "No", and then traded Powell for Winslow and Keon.

They finally traded CJ for Hart. We wanted the Blazers to have Ant come off the bench and start Hart at the 2; they said "No".

When we saw it wasn't working with Ant at the 2, we wanted the Blazers to trade Ant and move Hart to starting 2; they said "No" and traded Hart for Reddish.

It's been quite monotonous these past few years.
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i completely agree that ant and dame don’t work together. But I’m also sure that the right deal probably wasn’t there at the deadline to move him. You don’t just give him up for nothing. I’m 99% sure that if a star 3 and D wing were available for Ant and change Cronin would hit accept immediately. But how many of those guys were there this deadline? And more importantly, how many of those teams viewed ant as the ideal star piece they wanted in return?

All that said, given Cronin’s comments at the press conference, I am fairly confident that ant gets moved this summer. More teams are in “tinker the roster” mode then, and the market will be better.
 
If Cronin's plan is to use pieces for a possible big help Dame contend trade how could it not include Simons as the main piece?
 
Freshtown said:
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Shams is the writer that said Portland pressured Payton into Toradol injections and concealed that fact. I wonder if he's even bothered to call Payton's agent and ask about him saying that Payton did not receive injections
 
julius said:
Every single GM in the league would take Simons over Hart as their starting guard. don't be delusional.
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You're right. Every single GM that that wanted to get abused defensively and have a guy that's hot every 5 games and is an overpaid chucker most of the time and end up in the lottery, instead of a having guy that plays great D and works his ass off every game and isn't ball-dominant, would certainly want Simons.
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
You're right. Every single GM that that wanted to get abused defensively and have a guy that's hot every 5 games and is an overpaid chucker most of the time and end up in the lottery, instead of a having guy that plays great D and works his ass off every game and isn't ball-dominant, would certainly want Simons.
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Doubling down on the delusion... Nice
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
You're right. Every single GM that that wanted to get abused defensively and have a guy that's hot every 5 games and is an overpaid chucker most of the time and end up in the lottery, instead of a having guy that plays great D and works his ass off every game and isn't ball-dominant, would certainly want Simons.
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You stumbled into the wrong thread. This is the GP2-Warriors trade thread. There are plenty of other threads on here discussing Ant’s fit here. Go there.
 
beast crnjo said:
We discarded the exact type of player we need. This franchise seems to be in love with undersized no defense tweeted guards like Simons.
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You stumbled into the wrong thread. This is the GP2-Warriors trade thread. There are plenty of other threads on here discussing Ant’s fit here. Go there.
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
I responded to a post in this thread, but thanks forum police.
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I’m not being forum police. But this is how forums/message boards work. There are threads titled with what is being discussed in the thread. You click on the thread that is relevant to that subject you want to post about. Or you are free to create your own new thread, that’s fine. But don’t go hijacking threads and making a mess of the whole place.
 
HomerLovesKoolAid said:
You're right. Every single GM that that wanted to get abused defensively and have a guy that's hot every 5 games and is an overpaid chucker most of the time and end up in the lottery, instead of a having guy that plays great D and works his ass off every game and isn't ball-dominant, would certainly want Simons.
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There's a reason why Josh has been on 4 teams.

And let's be real here, Josh is what Josh is. He's a 27 year old *role* player. He'll get you 10-11 points, and never be a 20 point scorer.

Again, there isn't a GM in the league that would take Josh over Anfernee. If the team offered Simons for Josh, right now, the Knicks would not only say yes, they'd help pack his bags.
 
OneSport3 said:
I’m not being forum police. But this is how forums/message boards work. There are threads titled with what is being discussed in the thread. You click on the thread that is relevant to that subject you want to post about. Or you are free to create your own new thread, that’s fine. But don’t go hijacking threads and making a mess of the whole place.
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I wasn't the one that hijacked it. Maybe just MYOB.
 
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