Gary Payton II Trade to the Warriors

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What do the Warriors want? Are they hoping they can embarass Portland into agreeing to (in the future) give them a couple of second round picks for an worthles expiring player?
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
This shows that somebody was blatantly lying. But would seem to indicate it's coming from Warriors, not Payton, as I don't think his agent would stab him in the back.
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If it’s the Warriors, then it looks like they’re going to play this to the end. They’ve filed a complaint against us with the league office.
 
UKRAINEFAN said:
This shows that somebody was blatantly lying. But would seem to indicate it's coming from Warriors, not Payton, as I don't think his agent would stab him in the back.
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According to this Woj article, the basis for the Warriors complaint is that they weren’t informed by the Blazers that GP2 was receiving Toradol shots. So either GP2 is lying to them or Aaron Goodwin is committing career/business suicide by lying and throwing his own client under the bus.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...-face-sunday-night-deadline-gary-payton-trade
 
OneSport3 said:
According to this Woj article, the basis for the Warriors complaint is that they weren’t informed by the Blazers that GP2 was receiving Toradol shots. So either GP2 is lying to them or Aaron Goodwin is committing career/business suicide by lying and throwing his own client under the bus.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...-face-sunday-night-deadline-gary-payton-trade
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I think he got shots at some point in the recovery but not to play games. That would be the only way for both things to be true (other than Shams’) shitty reporting.

In any case, there are things we don’t know. However, we do know Shams and Woj are super-shitty journalists (glorified TMZ for agents and owners, respectively) and Gary is a little bitch whose teammates hate him.
 
Part of me wonders if this is kind of like when Hollinger was convinced he knew Dame was going to or had asked for a trade. Kinda ruined his reputation when Dame clapped back.
 
OneSport3 said:
I’m not being forum police. But this is how forums/message boards work. There are threads titled with what is being discussed in the thread. You click on the thread that is relevant to that subject you want to post about. Or you are free to create your own new thread, that’s fine. But don’t go hijacking threads and making a mess of the whole place.
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You must be new here. That isn’t at ALL how this place works.
 
OneSport3 said:
According to this Woj article, the basis for the Warriors complaint is that they weren’t informed by the Blazers that GP2 was receiving Toradol shots. So either GP2 is lying to them or Aaron Goodwin is committing career/business suicide by lying and throwing his own client under the bus.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...-face-sunday-night-deadline-gary-payton-trade
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The Godwins are Dame’s people if I’m not mistaken. I think they are more worried about the Blazers than GP.
 
My guess is Payton embellished some things, it got out and took on a life of its own, Portland, agents and players began disputing it, and the Warriors decided to take it up probably because the NBA won't do anything against them if it's discovered it was a trumped-up allegation. The Warriors don't have anything to lose in this ... they can just play into the smear and people will eat it up, and they're one of the league's darling franchises, so there'll be no repercussions for them pulling this.
 
PCmor7 said:
My guess is Payton embellished some things, it got out and took on a life of its own, Portland, agents and players began disputing it, and the Warriors decided to take it up probably because the NBA won't do anything against them if it's discovered it was a trumped-up allegation. The Warriors don't have anything to lose in this ... they can just play into the smear and people will eat it up, and they're one of the league's darling franchises, so there'll be no repercussions for them pulling this.
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My guess is, if the last tweet is true and it's about the Warriors implying that the Blazers didn't let them know they had been giving him shots (which his agent has since denied), it kind of sounds like a case of "just covering our grounds/backing our player".

It wouldn't surprise me to find out nothing wrong was done by the Blazers and

A: Fans won't believe it
B: The Warriors will gaslight the hell out of this
C: Fans will bring it up until the end of times (both against Payton and against the Blazers)
D: Damian still will drink like a fish.
 
THE HCP said:
The Godwins are Dame’s people if I’m not mistaken. I think they are more worried about the Blazers than GP.
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That doesn't make any sense.

If he were FORCED to pick a side, he would go with Dame. However, there was no need for Goodwin to even make a statement at all.

The fact that he spoke up speaks volumes to me
 
PCmor7 said:
My guess is Payton embellished some things, it got out and took on a life of its own, Portland, agents and players began disputing it, and the Warriors decided to take it up probably because the NBA won't do anything against them if it's discovered it was a trumped-up allegation. The Warriors don't have anything to lose in this ... they can just play into the smear and people will eat it up, and they're one of the league's darling franchises, so there'll be no repercussions for them pulling this.
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Lol the golden state trumps then lmao
 
julius said:
My guess is, if the last tweet is true and it's about the Warriors implying that the Blazers didn't let them know they had been giving him shots (which his agent has since denied), it kind of sounds like a case of "just covering our grounds/backing our player".

It wouldn't surprise me to find out nothing wrong was done by the Blazers and

A: Fans won't believe it
B: The Warriors will gaslight the hell out of this
C: Fans will bring it up until the end of times (both against Payton and against the Blazers)
D: Damian still will drink like a fish.
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That's the way I see it playing out. The attention span of the pundits and fans ended with the accusation.

Again, I think the Blazers should be able to file a countercomplaint because a team or player throwing out a charge like this if it turns out to be baseless is effectively a kind of tampering, but I don't believe the NBA would take that step against the Warriors. If it was someone like the Hornets or Magic, they probably would.
 
THE HCP said:
The Godwins are Dame’s people if I’m not mistaken. I think they are more worried about the Blazers than GP.
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that's quite a reach

I'd think they would be worried about their business and if it came out they were lying about one of their players it would hurt their business, a lot
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
That doesn't make any sense.

If he were FORCED to pick a side, he would go with Dame. However, there was no need for Goodwin to even make a statement at all.

The fact that he spoke up speaks volumes to me
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That’s what I was implying the Goodwins are going to back Dame and the Blazers over GP.
 
OneSport3 said:
According to this Woj article, the basis for the Warriors complaint is that they weren’t informed by the Blazers that GP2 was receiving Toradol shots. So either GP2 is lying to them or Aaron Goodwin is committing career/business suicide by lying and throwing his own client under the bus.

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...-face-sunday-night-deadline-gary-payton-trade
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Yep, why would Goodwin lie about his own client and risk a lawsuit? I do believe Dame probably influenced Goodwin to say something, but I think that "something" is the truth. It makes no sense that either of them would want Goodwin to lie about it. We are not talking about a criminal offense here, no reason to hurt your career over a trade.
 
wizenheimer said:
that's quite a reach

I'd think they would be worried about their business and if it came out they were lying about one of their players it would hurt their business, a lot
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Maybe I didn’t make myself clear. They are more wanting to have the back of the team that just signed their client to a billion dollar deal than GP and the Warriors.
 
I will say I find it a little curious that other than a brief comment in Cronin's press conference, the Blazers have not said anything to defend themselves....and they are definitely taking damage
 
CJ_is_Gone said:
That doesn't make any sense.

If he were FORCED to pick a side, he would go with Dame. However, there was no need for Goodwin to even make a statement at all.

The fact that he spoke up speaks volumes to me
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Exactly.

For the allegations to be true, the Blazers have to be both corrupt and thoroughly incompetent and at least two people that would have knowledge of this situation who spoke out with no reason to do so would have to be complete liars: Goodwin and Josh Hart.

Like I said earlier, somehow you have to explain why the Blazers would let a role player sit out half the season, come back and play sparingly and still force him to play while letting both stars and fellow role players to sit out sometimes lengthy periods. You also have to explain how Payton was forced to do anything, because I can't think of any players in this day and age being forced to do anything.
 
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