Gary Trent extension

[Natebishop3]

I want to keep GTJ and DJJ and that's going to force us to trade CJ. There's no way we can pay those guys and be paying CJ the stupid contract that he's making.

 

[kjironman1]

It’s called a toxic offer. A team will offer a very uncomfortable contract to a player to effect them in a number of ways.
What we did with Utah was offer a contract we felt Wes was worth and we were right that time. Now Crabbe they should have let walk.

 

[riverman]

As much as I like Trent...he has pumped his trade value through the roof....if we think he'll be pricing us out of the market next off season we could get a really good player for him at the deadline...contract season for him is very similar to what Crabbe did his 3rd year as well as Patty C and Jake Layman.

 

[Natebishop3]

It’s called a toxic offer. A team will offer a very uncomfortable contract to a player to effect them in a number of ways.
What we did with Utah was offer a contract we felt Wes was worth and we were right that time. Now Crabbe they should have let walk.

Yeah..... the problem is that Crabbe was extremely one dimensional. GTJ seems to be a really solid 3&D guy. Not sure if he's worth big money yet though.

 

[Driew]

No
And
No.

Hmmm I thought Wes's $34 million contract was a max for an undrafted player at the time. My bad.

 

[illmatic99]

I want to keep GTJ and DJJ and that's going to force us to trade CJ. There's no way we can pay those guys and be paying CJ the stupid contract that he's making.

Nurk will get an extension also

 

[Natebishop3]

Nurk will get an extension also

Yup. CJ is making superstar money and he's not a superstar. I think GTJ/DJJ/Nurk are far more important to our future.

 

[kjironman1]

Yeah..... the problem is that Crabbe was extremely one dimensional. GTJ seems to be a really solid 3&D guy. Not sure if he's worth big money yet though.

I was never really impressed. At the time i was on the "Let Him Go" side of the conversation.

 

[RoseCityRebel]

It’s called a toxic offer. A team will offer a very uncomfortable contract to a player to effect them in a number of ways.
What we did with Utah was offer a contract we felt Wes was worth and we were right that time. Now Crabbe they should have let walk.

The Miller family was struggling financially and the “toxic offer” was because of the poison pill of needing a full cash payment before the Miller’s could get the cash, as I recall. I may be completely wrong tho ha.

 

[kjironman1]

Hmmm I thought Wes's $34 million contract was a max for an undrafted player at the time. My bad.

It was highly toxic. $9 million front loaded so Utah had almost no way to match at the time. Thing is it's pretty much what they were doing for Milsap the year before.
You kind of have to remember how this was all planned. Wes was supposed to back up Brandon Roy. Of course Roy was on his way down and going fast. Pritchard was just fired and and Larry Miller was acting along with Chad Buchanan. The entire organization was going through some major changes that seemed to take forever. something like 5 GM's in 6 years? Don't quote me on that.
Another thing to remember the cap was like 70 million then. Again don't quote me on that number. 9 million front loaded was i big hit.

 

[kjironman1]

The Miller family was struggling financially and the “toxic offer” was because of the poison pill of needing a flu caused payment before the Miller’s could get the cash, as I recall. I may be completely wrong tho ha.

Front loaded was the problem for Utah.

 

[Blazinaway]

This is from the RealGM trade board:

"Gary Trent Jr. reportedly declined a 4-year/$53M contract. That's the biggest extension that he is eligible to sign before this season started.

2021-22: $12 million
2022-23: $12.96 million
2023-24: $13.92 million
2024-25: $14.88 million
Total: $53.76 million"

Guess Gary is really betting on himself, that I believe is as most Blazers could offer on an extension

 

[Driew]

This is from the RealGM trade board:

"Gary Trent Jr. reportedly declined a 4-year/$53M contract. That's the biggest extension that he is eligible to sign before this season started.

2021-22: $12 million
2022-23: $12.96 million
2023-24: $13.92 million
2024-25: $14.88 million
Total: $53.76 million"

Guess Gary is really betting on himself, that I believe is as most Blazers could offer on an extension

How much more can he get by waiting till next year? $70 million?

 

[Natebishop3]

There's no way we pay him a ton of money to be our backup.

 

[Blazinaway]

How much more can he get by waiting till next year? $70 million?

A player re-signing with his own team (8% annual raises, up to five years):

Year 6 years or less 7-9 years 10+ years
2020/21 $27,285,000 $32,742,000 $38,199,000
2021/22 $29,467,800 $35,361,360 $41,254,920
2022/23 $31,650,600 $37,980,720 $44,310,840
2023/24 $33,833,400 $40,600,080 $47,366,760
2024/25 $36,016,200 $43,219,440 $50,422,680
Total $158,253,000 $189,903,600 $221,554,200

That's for 20/21, probably a little higher if the cap increases from 109 mil

 

[Natebishop3]

A player re-signing with his own team (8% annual raises, up to five years):

Year 6 years or less 7-9 years 10+ years
2020/21 $27,285,000 $32,742,000 $38,199,000
2021/22 $29,467,800 $35,361,360 $41,254,920
2022/23 $31,650,600 $37,980,720 $44,310,840
2023/24 $33,833,400 $40,600,080 $47,366,760
2024/25 $36,016,200 $43,219,440 $50,422,680
Total $158,253,000 $189,903,600 $221,554,200

That's for 20/21, probably a little higher if the cap increases from 109 mil

God if anyone gives him that.....

 

[BLAZINGGIANTS]

God if anyone gives him that.....

I think many of us said something similar about Crabbe...

 

[Natebishop3]

I think many of us said something similar about Crabbe...

I knew Crabbe was gonne get paid, but I didn't think that much....

 

[B-Roy]

This is from the RealGM trade board:

"Gary Trent Jr. reportedly declined a 4-year/$53M contract. That's the biggest extension that he is eligible to sign before this season started.

2021-22: $12 million
2022-23: $12.96 million
2023-24: $13.92 million
2024-25: $14.88 million
Total: $53.76 million"

Guess Gary is really betting on himself, that I believe is as most Blazers could offer on an extension

No one reads the articles. Nowhere does it say we ever offered that.

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[hoopsjock]

https://www.blazersuprise.com/gary-trent-jr-turns-down-extension-offer-is-this-bad/

 

[Hoopguru]

https://www.blazersuprise.com/gary-trent-jr-turns-down-extension-offer-is-this-bad/

Good article HJ.

 

[wizenheimer]

Hmmm I thought Wes's $34 million contract was a max for an undrafted player at the time. My bad.

IIRC it was the max for a non-Bird free agent. He'd only been in the league 1 year so his max was limited to the NBA average salary. I think the Blazers front-loaded as much as they were allowed

 

[Driew]

IIRC it was the max for a non-Bird free agent. He'd only been in the league 1 year so his max was limited to the NBA average salary. I think the Blazers front-loaded as much as they were allowed

Okay that's what I thought--when I said "max" I meant the max that Wes could get at that time. Obviously I didn't think it was the league max haha.

 

[GDiama]

https://www.blazersuprise.com/gary-trent-jr-turns-down-extension-offer-is-this-bad/

I think the Joe Harris situation is different because Nets couldn't replace him. Players have all the leverage in the world in this kind of situations. I think Trent is gonna settle to something around the offer he rejected. For us he is worth it as we cannot get someone as good as him for the min or bi-annual.

 

[GDiama]

Ok....Gary will get the max

 

[B-Roy]

Kennard has shown more than Trent, at least when he hasn't been injured.

But I don't think Gary will take anything less than what Kennard got.

 

[HolyBackboard]

Are we in for Allen Crabbe scenario 2.0 this summer? I like GT's game more so than AC, but sheesh that's a ton of coin for a backup. If Portland doesn't meet expectations this season, we may have to decide between CJ and GT.

 

[Hoopguru]

Ok....Gary will get the max

Why so? Luke was a lottery pick and averaged about16 points a game. He been in the association a year long than Trent I believe.

 

[Wizard Mentor]

How much more can he get by waiting till next year? $70 million?

Total guess:
he'd be happy with 4-year/$53 mil if it came with a starting spot.