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BankTeller said:
Yup, I’m honestly more inclined to take Hayward’s contract for #13 than to trade for OG. Nas has shown enough flashes that I would be on board with starting him at SF next to Grant. You just hope Nas turns into OG eventually.

While Nas is still playing out the year for an extension, Hayward can remain on the team as a high scoring sixth man. The following year, he is an expiring contract that would be intriguing to a team needing cap space for 2024.
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He's just as injury prone if not more than OG
 
Scalma said:
good question. I’d say if Nas were to stay healthy, yes. Pretty big if though. But yeah I still believe in him.
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If he can put together a decent year, year after could be his impact year for the playoffs?
 
I really like Sochan as our pick, especially if they can move a few spots and pick up another asset. Then, if Grant and whoever don't work out, we would still have Nas and Sochan as a very good pairing for the future.
 
julius said:
Yeah, but we have to remember, he's a free agent and he can't be traded.
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Wasn't saying he could be. A sign and trade after the moratorium sure, but it's not happening.
 
Scalma said:
good question. I’d say if Nas were to stay healthy, yes. Pretty big if though. But yeah I still believe in him.
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I’m completely in agreement with you on that. If Nas for sure is healthy, then we’ve essentially filled out our starting forward spots.

Hayward, while often injured, is still super efficient when he plays. I love the idea of Hayward because I can easily see him being what Horford was for the Celtics. While one of our starters is making rookie money, I think Hayward off the bench could be a guy that can be relied on for 30mpg any night. He’s been playing 32-34mpg the last two years, you can have him come off the bench for anywhere from 25-30mpg.

Overall this would be the framework of the team if we got Hayward and #13, then trading up for Sochan with #13 and others, and drafting Daniels at #7:
Dame/Ant/Nas/Grant/Nurk
Ant/Hart/Hayward/Sochan/____
Daniels/Keon/Daniels/Watford/Brown III
That is without the MLE.

I’m REALLY hoping we don’t trade #7 for OG.
 
Chris Craig said:
Wasn't saying he could be. A sign and trade after the moratorium sure, but it's not happening.
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You must have missed the posts that kept repeating that the other day.
 
If this deal falls through, how many here will be upset and how many will just laugh?
 
cheesehoff said:
I really like Sochan as our pick, especially if they can move a few spots and pick up another asset. Then, if Grant and whoever don't work out, we would still have Nas and Sochan as a very good pairing for the future.
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Grant is better as a SF anyway.
 
oldmangrouch said:
If this deal falls through, how many here will be upset and how many will just laugh?
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You laugh because that is all there is left to do and it is what you come to expect from the Blazers. But, when the trade goes through, you celebrate because moves like this don't generally happen for Portland.
 
Chris Craig said:
He's just as injury prone if not more than OG
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Which is why I wouldn’t give up #7 for OG. At least by taking on Hayward, we get an asset in return.

I would rather start Nas and have Hayward backing up at the 3 for one (or both) seasons, then drafting two guys with #7 and #13. Of course OG is better than guys like Sharpe and Mathurin right now, but I would rather have those guys at a rookie deal. Nas and Hayward and a rookie will be just fine for the time being.

Any combination of Sharpe and Sochan, or Mathurin and Sochan, or Daniels and Sochan, will be better than OG in a few years time. Sochan and Daniels could be immediate impacts defensively, and soon could prove not to be shooting liabilities.
 
BankTeller said:
Which is why I wouldn’t give up #7 for OG. I would rather start Nas and have Hayward backing up at the 3 for one (or both) seasons, then drafting two guys with #7 and #13. Of course OG is better than guys like Sharpe and Mathurin right now, but I would rather have those guys at a rookie deal. Nas and Hayward and a rookie will be just fine for the time being.
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Hayward gets paid too much to be a backup.

How would we trade for Hayward and still have the 7th pick?

Neither Mathurian or Sharpe will drop to 13.
 
BankTeller said:
Which is why I wouldn’t give up #7 for OG. I would rather start Nas and have Hayward backing up at the 3 for one (or both) seasons, then drafting two guys with #7 and #13. Of course OG is better than guys like Sharpe and Mathurin right now, but I would rather have those guys at a rookie deal. Nas and Hayward and a rookie will be just fine for the time being.
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Where 13 coming from?
 
Chris Craig said:
Hayward gets paid too much to be a backup.

How would we trade for Hayward and still have the 7th pick?

Neither Mathurian or Sharpe will drop to 13.
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They are trying to clear cap space to re-sign Miles Bridges this summer and then LaMelo next summer from what I’ve read, and are offering #13 or #15 for a team to take Hayward.
 
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