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Joe's best option, with our C.I.A., F.B.I., military, police, etc., at his disposal, was to hire an inept 20 year old. Who's best laid plan was to: Show up to a presidential rally, with a high powered weapon. To then proceed to climb the nearest building, on a sunny day, in broad daylight, while people are shouting to the police.

The logic is so air tight. The republicans got me convinced. Joe must have ordered the hit!
Nobody had to hire anyone. Just leave the roof open. Somebody was bound to try eventually.

I'm not saying that's what happened. But leaving that roof open which is the perfect distance from the podium is a failure of monumental proportions. Like, criminal.
 
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Also, the ideas floating around that this was "staged". If no shots were fired, I'd entertain that theory, because of how ridiculous the security lapse was, but Trump wouldn't stage a kid shooting a bullet through his ear.
 
I read where his father was a phycologist and mom was a teacher. It will be interesting to hear their take about their son at some point.
 
Here is a time sync'd split video, showing the amount of time elapsed from the crowd noticing the guy on the roof till the time when the shooting actually started. The idea that they didn't even have an officer or secret service member stationed there is insane.

 
Also, the ideas floating around that this was "staged". If no shots were fired, I'd entertain that theory, because of how ridiculous the security lapse was, but Trump wouldn't stage a kid shooting a bullet through his ear.

That’s likely true. I guess if a magician was setting up the illusion Trump would have had something in his hand to stab his ear when the shots went off, but this wasn’t some magic trick. The Secret Service could have been in on it and left the roof open for the sniper, but don’t you think that they would pick a competent guy for the hit? A shot from that distance is nothing for a trained sniper. Nope, as per usual, the most likely thing is the most likely answer. Someone screwed up.
 
Nobody had to hire anyone. Just leave the roof open. Somebody was bound to try eventually.

I'm not saying that's what happened. But leaving that roof open which is the perfect distance from the podium is a failure of monumental proportions. Like, criminal.
It's such a blunder to me that I think RFK Jr. is currently the most well protected candidate, and he does not have Secret Service protection.
 
That’s likely true. I guess if a magician was setting up the illusion Trump would have had something in his hand to stab his ear when the shots went off, but this wasn’t some magic trick. The Secret Service could have been in on it and left the roof open for the sniper, but don’t you think that they would pick a competent guy for the hit? A shot from that distance is nothing for a trained sniper. Nope, as per usual, the most likely thing is the most likely answer. Someone screwed up.

The kid did almost pull it off though. It missed by an inch. 150 yards isn't that far. Especially when you can get multiple shots off quickly. Also some poor guy got shot right through the head, so we know there were real bullets flying.
 
With SS being that lax in today’s culture of politics and with a country obsessed with guns is unexplainable.

To me it’s like how could you not think something is extremely fishy with this.

I hope they snatched up his shoes after the photo shoot
 
That’s likely true. I guess if a magician was setting up the illusion Trump would have had something in his hand to stab his ear when the shots went off, but this wasn’t some magic trick. The Secret Service could have been in on it and left the roof open for the sniper, but don’t you think that they would pick a competent guy for the hit? A shot from that distance is nothing for a trained sniper. Nope, as per usual, the most likely thing is the most likely answer. Someone screwed up.
The only conspiracy theory that I can entertain at this point with what we know, is that for whatever reason, he was given one shot. We know so little about the actual gunman that it's easy to fill in the blanks with whatever you like. I've read somewhere that he had a mostly inactive Discord account. The FBI has encouraged schizophrenics they're monitoring online to go through with mass shootings. That sounds insane, but it's true.

https://edition.cnn.com/2017/11/29/politics/aby-rayyan-fbi-terror-sting-pizza-man/index.html
https://www.thedailybeast.com/fbi-agent-apparently-egged-on-draw-muhammad-shooter?ref=scroll

Again, not saying that's what happened here. Just a thought.
 
I'm actually impressed with people's ability here to at least smell the rat of the security breech. Apply that logic to other topics!
 
This is exactly right.

It’s sort of hard to respect people who sit on here and bloviate, day in and day out, about how Trump is the embodiment of evil, grave threat to our country and the world, a Nazi, a fascist, etc. Then, turn around when something like this happens and vomit up the same mundane, applause break talking points condemning violence and feigning some type of civility. Yall did this. It’s so fake and people who are suddenly minding their P’s and Q’s have ZERO principles.
Put you fucking money where your mouths are and tell us you wish he would’ve died yesterday. Save us from the Nazis and the threat to democracy! If i truly thought an evil person was taking over the world I’d be glad they got clapped. But deep down you all know you are just blowing hot air and being dramatic to inflate this supposed ‘threat’ Trump poses. You just wanted to get your political way by any means possible and now the chickens have come home to roost and its time to start back pedaling your bullshit.

Yall are kind of pussies, sorry to say. And your shitty, hyperbolic chicken-little-the-sky-is-falling ideology of fear mongering and scare tactics is what caused that dumb kid to crawl on a roof and get his head popped trying to assassinate a president.

Congatulations, you played yourself.
Okay, I'll be brutally honest. Yesterday was my birthday. On Saturday I thought I had been given an early birthday present. Turns out I was mistaken. I wish I could say I was ashamed of myself but I can't. The man is vile and disgusting, and so is his base. Happy now?
 
It sounds to me like the parents didn't teach their son which mental disorder he was suffering from.
Fucking parents not treating their own kids... Does the government have to do everything?!
 
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Was it Mao that took all the kids and retrained them into good soldiers.
 
Here's my hypothesis: hubris on the part of law enforcement and candidate security, laziness and a tendency to disregard civilians as idiots. Bastards were being bastards and now they're all going to scramble and throw each other under the bus while nobody takes accountability. No conspiracy required. This doesn't "go all the way up", because "all the way up" is just some bastard cops treating people like cattle.
 
Those that carry out assassinations usually don't want the deed to be tied back to them. So you set up a "lone nut" to do it and take the fall.

In the case of the JFK assassination, a lone nut took the fall, but they had a professional team actual do the shooting. But many eye witnesses spotted them, and that would be a much tougher thing to get away within the age of cell phones and live streaming.

And the shot was only an inch off from being a pink mist.

Yes, they do hire lone nuts to take the fall for them. Problem is: You use a lone nut for an up-close and personal hit job. It should be an easier kill, even for a non-professional. You use a professional for a distance shot. Not some bumbling 20 year old clown with little, to no experience. And yes, he still almost got the kill. But had Biden ordered a hit, the secret service would have magically "waited for the gunman to finish the job" before killing the shooter.

The SS still has a lot to answer for. But, there is simply no logic to the argument. In this case.
 
Okay, I'll be brutally honest. Yesterday was my birthday. On Saturday I thought I had been given an early birthday present. Turns out I was mistaken. I wish I could say I was ashamed of myself but I can't. The man is vile and disgusting, and so is his base. Happy now?
Honesty is the best policy.

Happy 93rd birthday. I just returned from an arduous work trip and haven’t drank in a week, so i think I’ll have a few speed goats this evening in your honor.:cheers:
 
The kid did almost pull it off though. It missed by an inch. 150 yards isn't that far. Especially when you can get multiple shots off quickly. Also some poor guy got shot right through the head, so we know there were real bullets flying.

C'mon, you can do better than that. Maybe the poor guy who got shot was a 'crisis actor'? Maybe the Secret Service shot him to make it all look real? Maybe all the shots came from the SS and the kid was encouraged by the SS to climb up on the roof with his gun to 'protect Trump' and was then executed?

Think man! It must be a deeper, broader conspiracy! How is George Soros involved? That's the key right there.

barfo
 
Yes, they do hire lone nuts to take the fall for them. Problem is: You use a lone nut for an up-close and personal hit job. It should be an easier kill, even for a non-professional. You use a professional for a distance shot. Not some bumbling 20 year old clown with little, to no experience. And yes, he still almost got the kill. But had Biden ordered a hit, the secret service would have magically "waited for the gunman to finish the job" before killing the shooter.

The SS still has a lot to answer for. But, there is simply no logic to the argument. In this case.

Not in that scenario. It would be like trying to shoot a deer by walking up to it with a handgun and thinking you have a better chance than at 150 yards when it can't see you. The secret service did allow him to get multiple shots off. They had to maintain some degree of plausible deniability. (which is the point of having a lone nut do it).
 
Instead of coming up with theories. Republicans should be calling for more gun control. I mean, a lone gunman nearly killed Trump. With a legally owned firearm. (the fact that it may not have been in legal possession at the time of the crime, is a whole other crime to sort out). And not one single republican at the rally whipped out a weapon to take down a guy, they themselves stood around and watched setup the shot. Big failure on their part, not being the "hero with a gun".

When logic fails, replacing it with a theory. Just doesn't work.
 

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