Hateful anti-gay laws passed in Russia

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This is bad. I'm with Harvey. We have to boycott the Olympics. This is scary scary legislation. This is also why it's important that people like Jason Collins come out. The more visible the gays are, the more chance we have of getting treated equally. When people know their uncle is gay, and their mayor is gay, and their sports hero is gay, then they are less afraid of gays. This is scary scary news that affects us ALL:

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/news/harvey-fierstein-opens-up-his-590199
 
I saw in the news that west Hollywood bars are boycotting Russian vodka?
 
Also, aren't they more anti gay in the Arab world?
 
Anyone who considers me a friend can be arrested in Russia.
 
What's crazy is a lot of these Russian politicians have threesomes and what not where the girls go down on each other
 
With the game of basketball originally being a woman's sport in a lot of "Eastern Bloc" countries, it'll be pretty cool watching Brittney Griner tear those countries a new asshole.
 
HEY!! I just had a thought. We want Snowden back, right? Why not tell Putin his girlfriend was really a fake and that Snowden is actually queer. I'll bet he'll be on the next planeski back here.
 
Don't know if you also saw in the NY Times this weekend the article on "corrective rape", the rape (and often murder) of lesbians to turn them straight. Often arranged by their parents and/or clergy. This despite the fact that laws in South Africa are quite progressive; the Constitution bans discrimination based on sexual orientation and they were the fifth country to pass marriage equality.

It wasn't just "some Americans" that backed the kill the gays bill in Uganda. Prominent Christian clergy helped write the bill and praised it as the kind of godly measure they can't get passed in this country. Nigeria also has had increasing attacks on gays and more stringent legislation.

Back to Russia: At the time of the 1917 Revolution, the tsarist laws against homosexuality were wiped off the books. There was no rights movement in Russia as there was in some Western European countries, most notably Germany, but the Bosheviks had the (correct) idea that that state should not control private morality. But as South Africa shows, legislation is not enough when attitudes don't change. The Stalinist counterrevolution targeted progressive legislation, bringing back the ban on homosexuality, also outlawed abortion (this was later overturned).

And in good old Virginia, they are still trying to make oral and anal intercourse between consenting adults in private, even if married, a crime, despite the Supreme Court ruling this is unconstitutional. And yes, corrective rape happens here.
 
Stop being a lying hypocrite and take it seriously.

Let me make my point clear- yes, I am a hypocrite.

I find two men together revolting and two women together erotic to the point I'd love to join in.

That said, to deny anyone the same rights as any other citizen due to sexual oreintation is 100% wrong and indeed hateful.

If there is anything about that you fail to understand, just let me know.
 
Don't know if you also saw in the NY Times this weekend the article on "corrective rape", the rape (and often murder) of lesbians to turn them straight. Often arranged by their parents and/or clergy. This despite the fact that laws in South Africa are quite progressive; the Constitution bans discrimination based on sexual orientation and they were the fifth country to pass marriage equality.

It wasn't just "some Americans" that backed the kill the gays bill in Uganda. Prominent Christian clergy helped write the bill and praised it as the kind of godly measure they can't get passed in this country. Nigeria also has had increasing attacks on gays and more stringent legislation.

Back to Russia: At the time of the 1917 Revolution, the tsarist laws against homosexuality were wiped off the books. There was no rights movement in Russia as there was in some Western European countries, most notably Germany, but the Bosheviks had the (correct) idea that that state should not control private morality. But as South Africa shows, legislation is not enough when attitudes don't change. The Stalinist counterrevolution targeted progressive legislation, bringing back the ban on homosexuality, also outlawed abortion (this was later overturned).

And in good old Virginia, they are still trying to make oral and anal intercourse between consenting adults in private, even if married, a crime, despite the Supreme Court ruling this is unconstitutional. And yes, corrective rape happens here.

It's times like this i'm glad we live on the west coast (we're obviously not there yet, but further along than most of the world/country)
 
Let me make my point clear- yes, I am a hypocrite.

I find two men together revolting and two women together erotic to the point I'd love to join in.

That said, to deny anyone the same rights as any other citizen due to sexual oreintation is 100% wrong and indeed hateful.

If there is anything about that you fail to understand, just let me know.

Nope, that is a good answer. I understand you were joking before, but I had no way to telling it from your comment.
 
Damn, I didn't know this. Well I had been talking about visiting a friend in Russia next summer, I don't think I'll do that now. We can meet elsewhere.

To those that stay on top of situations like this, please keep us informed. I would be happy to avoid Russian vodka or do some other boycott if its organized and enough people are actually doing it so that we can be heard.

This is just totally shitty.
 
The leftist liberal Soviet Union was overthrown to enable religion. So now it's a crime to insult religion. The rock group Pussy Riot is in prison for doing so.

The West, which overthrew the atheist system and installed the pro-religion regime, now pretends to be aghast at the results.
 
This is bad. I'm with Harvey. We have to boycott the Olympics. This is scary scary legislation. This is also why it's important that people like Jason Collins come out. The more visible the gays are, the more chance we have of getting treated equally. When people know their uncle is gay, and their mayor is gay, and their sports hero is gay, then they are less afraid of gays. This is scary scary news that affects us ALL:

http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/news/harvey-fierstein-opens-up-his-590199


Let's see, do I have this right? The Russians don't want Gay marriage, so they are evil. Gay's will now push for boycotting the Olympics because they back their Orthodox church?
Is this a correct reading? Do you really expect them to go against their church?
 
No, as usual, not a correct reading from MarAzul. How shocking!!!!!
 
Damn, I didn't know this. Well I had been talking about visiting a friend in Russia next summer, I don't think I'll do that now. We can meet elsewhere.

To those that stay on top of situations like this, please keep us informed. I would be happy to avoid Russian vodka or do some other boycott if its organized and enough people are actually doing it so that we can be heard.

This is just totally shitty.

News of anti gay protests in the streets there has been ongoing for months.

It isn't just the repressive govt., it seems to be a populist thing.
 
No, as usual, not a correct reading from MarAzul. How shocking!!!!!

Well can you say what you expect the Russians to do. Go against their church? Or reject their church and side with a Gay minority?
 
News of anti gay protests in the streets there has been ongoing for months.

It isn't just the repressive govt., it seems to be a populist thing.

Why do you say it is anti anything. It seems to me they just are backing the position of their church. Quite simple actually.
 
Why do you say it is anti anything. It seems to me they just are backing the position of their church. Quite simple actually.

Whatever. It's a crime against humanity.
 
Ha! Wild! People following their religion is a crime against humanity!

Is this in jest too?

Follow their religion?

What religion is that, stormfront.com?
 
I don't see how boycotting the olympics will do anything.... it's not like Russia wins anything anymore anyway. This isn't the 80's. Russia isn't even relevant anymore in the sports world.
 
I don't see how boycotting the olympics will do anything.... it's not like Russia wins anything anymore anyway. This isn't the 80's. Russia isn't even relevant anymore in the sports world.

You don't understand. Apparently the Gay gang believe they can shame the Russians into going against the teachings of the Russian Orthodox Church by boycotting the Olympic games.
Don't you see how logical this view is?
 

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