How can we get rid of Batum?

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JFizzleRaider said:
San Antonio laughs at you.

So does Golden State.

And Atlanta.
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I don't know about that. GS drafted Curry, Thompson, Barnes, and Green. They also traded away Stephen Jackson, who could contribute, for a pick that was then used in the deal for Igoudala.
 
Ha! This board is damn near moronic, calling for Batums head when he out rebounded Damian, Shot the three ball better than twice the success rate and had more assists than Damian,
played bettter defense too. Batum did indeed assist Meyers on some scores. But they cut the darling all the slack in the world while they come down hard on Batum?? WTF is up with this?
 
MarAzul said:
Ha! This board is damn near moronic, calling for Batums head when he out rebounded Damian, Shot the three ball better than twice the success rate and had more assists than Damian,
played bettter defense too. Batum did indeed assist Meyers on some scores. But they cut the darling all the slack in the world while they come down hard on Batum?? WTF is up with this?
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And we'd call you obsessed. :)
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I think the increase of minutes where CJ and Dame play together also helps with that. CJ is a better ball handler than Wes and decreases the need for Nic to run the offense. If Wes comes back he can get minutes at SF as well.

I love Nic on this team, but I can't deny he is our best trade bait. I think a DeRosan trade would be interesting as well. He plays well in the paint and regardless what type of offense Terry wants to run........we could use that with LMA and Leonard stretching the floor.
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And if Nic isn't running the offense he could focus more on his offense and rebounding. And defense.
 
Strenuus said:
And we'd call you obsessed.
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Yes well this is the sort of responses give to questioning why such crappy performances are ignored. Oh yeah, Batum played poorly, he thinks so, and so do I.
 
Rastapopoulos said:
As in "may you live in interesting times"?

Seriously? DeRozan? The most "empty stats" guy since Shareef Abdur-Rahim?
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Why are they empty? His team won and he was a big part. Good team, good assists, good rebounds, good free throw shooter. Great on the fast break. The only thing he is bad at is 3 pt shooting. And yes I realize that it is a problem with Terry's style. But I still say we need someone who takes his man into the paint, and is unstoppable. And he is pretty close to that.

He is not perfect but a line up of Dame, Wes/CJ, DeRosan, LMA, and Rolo/Leonared would be harder to stop. and I bet it is doable.
 
MarAzul said:
Ha! This board is damn near moronic, calling for Batums head when he out rebounded Damian, Shot the three ball better than twice the success rate and had more assists than Damian,
played bettter defense too. Batum did indeed assist Meyers on some scores. But they cut the darling all the slack in the world while they come down hard on Batum?? WTF is up with this?
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Your like a fast food restaurant. Instant and over with and no recollection of the previous meal.
Dame was burnt out by the end of the season and tried too hard to carry the team. With that said, for the first two and a half years, he played all star calibre ball. When has Nic and his $12 mill even been a conversation of possibly making it?
Nic got hot for a couple games in the playoffs but stunk up the season.

How on earth can you not see that? Oh.. probably how you only saw half of a comment I made in another thread and decided to quote only a portion of it and take it completely out of context. You are quickly teaching me that you are just not able to have a rational discussion. You seem to read only what you read, and see what you see. Problem is you already proved you don't read it all, so how can you see it all?

I respect ALL Blazer fans, but some are simply not realistic.

Some are borderline troll like...
 
Rhal said:
I like DeRozan a lot but there is one big glaring weakness in his game that would make it very hard for him to work on our team. He cannot shoot, the way the NBA is going if your a gaurd and you cant shoot I dont want you on the Blazers playing extended minutes
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Nic's shooting numbers were pretty awful last season and even in the playoffs when he avgd 14 PPP he shot a lousy 34% in overall FG%
 
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Rastapopoulos said:
And then his team flamed out SPECTACULARLY, and he was a big part. He's an inefficient volume shooter. He's possibly the anti-Wes.
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I like Nic and appreciate the different things he brings to the team. Mostly his ability to guard multiple positions.
And I like that he is an above average play maker for a SF. But I do not he is good enough of a play maker to run an offense.
I would like to see that cut back. I am all for him coming back if he improves. We all know he had a bad year and next summer we have to deal with his agent again. Not a pleasant thought.

And if you think DeRosan and the Toronto flamed out Spectacularly, then what does that say about Nic and the Blazers. Not sure why Demar's stats are empty and Nics are not. I don't necessarily want to trade Nic but we have to upgrade somewhere and a better center is too tough to get. Maybe DeRosan is not the guy but we need one of our wings to attack the basket IMO.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Dame was burnt out by the end of the season
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This is likely very true. The guy you love unconditionally was indeed a big reason for being done in April. While our non all star had more assist, rebounds and shot the three ball much better (all though not good) than the guy shooting it .161. .161 would not be too bad, on say 6 attempts. It's stupid on 31.

PS, I did read your personal assessment of me. I chose not to comment intentionally.
 
Blazinaway said:
Nic's shooting numbers were pretty awful last season and even in the playoffs when he avgd 14 PPP he shot a lousy 34% in overall FG%
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Batum had his worst shooting season of his career by far and he still barely shot worse then DeRozen from 2 and shot quiet a bit better from 3. DeRozen is super athletic and a good defender but he is such a bad 3p shooter that he would almost be a liability the way the Blazers like to space things out. He also has a very bad assist to turnover ratio.
 
MarAzul said:
This is likely very true. The guy you love unconditionally was indeed a big reason for being done in April. While our non all star had more assist, rebounds and shot the three ball much better (all though not good) than the guy shooting it .161. .161 would not be too bad, on say 6 attempts. It's stupid on 31.

PS, I did read your personal assessment of me. I chose not to comment intentionally.
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Right. and again quoted only a portion of my sentence and never answered my questions. MY assessment of you continues to be substantiated.
 
What bothers me is Batum could be the top 3 SF in the league behind Durant and LBJ if he was assertive. Even if he was playing at the level he played last season, he would be a top 5 SF. I think this is what pisses me off the most. I understand he was battling injuries, but the secondary issue is how he plays over-seas too much. Rest, get well and dominate the NBA and we could have a Larry O'Brien trophy
 
magnifier661 said:
What bothers me is Batum could be the top 3 SF in the league behind Durant and LBJ if he was assertive. Even if he was playing at the level he played last season, he would be a top 5 SF. I think this is what pisses me off the most. I understand he was battling injuries, but the secondary issue is how he plays over-seas too much. Rest, get well and dominate the NBA and we could have a Larry O'Brien trophy
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That's been his curse for the entire time he's been with us. You see the flashes of brilliance....then followed up by stinkers.

Ugh. After what 7 years....is it time to cut ties? I think so, in my opinion. That is if we can get good return value.
 
I would love to work a 3-way trade between Detroit, Portland and Atlanta.

Portland sends Batum to Detroit, Atlanta sends Horford to Portland and Detroit sends Monroe (sign and trade) to Atlanta.

Although, we could just deal with Detroit straight up and send them Batum for a resigned Monroe.
 
Why in the world would Atlanta deal horford for a worse player in Monroe
 
JFizzleRaider said:
Why in the world would Atlanta deal horford for a worse player in Monroe
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They don't have an inside post player, which is why they are having trouble in the playoffs. Yes, Horford is arguably a better player, but they have nothing they can use on the half court offense. When the game requires it, they don't play well IMO.
 
CSNW's Jabari Whathaveyou says that Neil could deal him and will be very active before the draft.

Batum for Willy Cauley-Stein? Yes please.
 
He legally changed his name to Willie Trill Cauley-Stein. Stein has height and Johnson doesn't .
 
jlprk said:
He legally changed his name to Willie Trill Cauley-Stein. Stein has height and Johnson doesn't .
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If you value a wing lock down defender, Stanley is long enough with a 6' 11 1/2" wing span. If we trade Batum then we better get a wing back. This kid can guard 3 positions. Think Artest without the head aches.
 
BigGameDamian said:
D'Angelo Russell..... Would that blow anyone's skirt up?
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Would love that, but we don't have the assets to get that high. Only a S&T with LMA would get that done (but the draft happens before LMA can negotiate a contract.... so it's very unlikely).
 
im pretty sure the sixers came out and said they are going to draft him if hes there at their pick...so we would have to jump the sixers which would be pretty difficult
 
magnifier661 said:
What bothers me is Batum could be the top 3 SF in the league behind Durant and LBJ if he was assertive. Even if he was playing at the level he played last season, he would be a top 5 SF. I think this is what pisses me off the most. I understand he was battling injuries, but the secondary issue is how he plays over-seas too much. Rest, get well and dominate the NBA and we could have a Larry O'Brien trophy
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Batum could be much better than he is but he would not be be better than Leonard or George, probably not Melo either. An aggressive Batum is probably somewhere around the level of Gay, Parsons and Hayward.
 
cmeese47 said:
Batum could be much better than he is but he would not be be better than Leonard or George, probably not Melo either. An aggressive Batum is probably somewhere around the level of Gay, Parsons and Hayward.
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Out of all the guys you mentioned the only one I'd keep batum over is Rudy gay
 
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