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tykendo said:
Just what you want, Shaedon and Scoot mingling with Simmons. That's a no dog.
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Not sure why you'd say that, by all accounts Simmons is a good guy, just working through the yips. I can think of plenty other guys I'd want them around less than him. It's absolutely an upside play, but if you can get a decent role player (like Draymond -- speaking of players you wouldn't want them around...) I could see that being a win long term.

I did say people would hate it haha.
 
glazeduck said:
People are going to absolutely HATE this idea...

But Nurk + Ant for Ben Simmons and Claxton straight up works $ wise...

Can you convince Dame that Simmons is salvageable into at least a Draymond like role player?
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I don't hate it. But I think losing the young Claxton might not be worth it to Brooklyn. Not for Nurk. They would really have to love Ant or really hate Simmons
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I don't hate it. But I think losing the young Claxton might not be worth it to Brooklyn. Not for Nurk. They would really have to love Ant or really hate Simmons
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100% really comes down to how badly they want rid of Simmons and/or whether or not they think they lose Clax as a FA next year. It's far from a smash accept on their side either (though that's usually a good sign of a reasonable value exchange)...

Just a random thought that I'd not seen thrown out...
 
glazeduck said:
100% really comes down to how badly they want rid of Simmons and/or whether or not they think they lose Clax as a FA next year. It's far from a smash accept on their side either (though that's usually a good sign of a reasonable value exchange)...

Just a random thought that I'd not seen thrown out...
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As a backup backup backup option, I would even consider rolling the dice on Ant and filler just for Simmons.
(if OG is off the table) I think your comparison to Green is a good one. Yes, he is a headcase but as Mook alluded to in his thread, we might have to take one. A 6'10 240 defender is a good fit next to Grant. Concerned with his health, but not his free throw
shooting.
 
PDXFonz said:
If you actually want us to trade Dame I legitimately question how I feel about you. I think we need to get @barfo and have you walk the plank.

As a matter of fact, what does @barfo think about all of this?
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My contract as Mr. Lillard's agent begins July 1; following that we will have some announcements regarding his future plans.

barfo
 
Pinwheel1 said:
As a backup backup backup option, I would even consider rolling the dice on Ant and filler just for Simmons.
(if OG is off the table) I think your comparison to Green is a good one. Yes, he is a headcase but as Mook alluded to in his thread, we might have to take one. A 6'10 240 defender is a good fit next to Grant. Concerned with his health, but not his free throw
shooting.
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That's my thing -- if you're expecting #1 overall performances out of him, you're probably always going to be disappointed. If you can salvage a super switchable big who distributes and rebounds without demanding shots, I think it's not the worst overall outcome. Clearly teams aren't banging down our door to get Nurk and Ant.

Definitely would not be my first choice, but it's not working gangbusters with Ant and Nurk so trying something different like this wouldn't upset me.

There could still be a good player inside Simmons and maybe a change of scenery without the expectations of, really anything, let along carrying a franchise, would help?
 
I'd also add that Simmons could be a great defensive fit next to Grant with his versatility.
 
tykendo said:
Ant for OG. Makes sense for both teams.
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It does. But OG also makes sense for most teams. So someone else might give Toronto more. I assume he will opt out after next year, so whoever gets him will have to pay more to keep him.
 
glazeduck said:
People are going to absolutely HATE this idea...

But Nurk + Ant for Ben Simmons and Claxton straight up works $ wise...

Can you convince Dame that Simmons is salvageable into at least a Draymond like role player?
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Honestly, that's far from the worst trade idea I've seen on here (and certainly more sensible than 99% of the stuff that comes out on Twitter).

Playing in Portland might be the one thing that could save Simmons' career. He wouldn't be under the microscope in Portland, especially if Dame is still on the Blazers and the national media will continue to fixate on that. Embracing a Draymond-type role would be perfect for Simmons if he's wise.
 
I'd be happy if Ant + Nurk gets Simmons + Claxton and Simmons never plays a minute. It doesn't help with future negotiations, but it gets a great piece for now.
 
blazerkor said:
If I had to choose between Ant and Dame that would be one of the easiest choices of my life and it would be Dame every time. That being said, if Dame wants out I might have a talk with Ant about backing up both Scoot and Shae, if he has any doubts about it then I would trade Ant immediately.
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Completely agree. You keep Dame every damn time.

I was just responding to Fez's comment asking why everyone is assuming that Ant needs to be traded
 
Ben Simmons has hardly played in the NBA. He's a roll of the dice for sure but there is no questioning his talent and defense.

I think he would help us and probably is hungry.
 
RonBrewer said:
Ben Simmons has hardly played in the NBA. He's a roll of the dice for sure but there is no questioning his talent and defense.

I think he would help us and probably is hungry.
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And he only has two years left. The contract isn't THAT bad anymore.
 
I thought Siakam already said he did not want to be traded. I guess he doesn't really have a choice.
 
I want to keep KM. Toronto has been playing hardball for two years. They are finna get stuck with nothing if they don't do something soon. Pascal would like Portland.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I thought Siakam already said he did not want to be traded. I guess he doesn't really have a choice.
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That was the report. So I guess it's up to a team to decide if they want to call his bluff.

The Kings traded for Webber and CWebb was not happy. They did win him over..... but there's a ton of risk.
 
Off Topic but Miami run was a pretty big fluke. Nobody expects them to really contend next year. At least i don't. Butler is going to regress sooner than later. Supporting cast ain't much.

Hell, Blazers could be better than them IMO. Need some pieces.
 
Ant - OG seems like it would help both teams. Portland needs a bigger defender and Toronto seems to need a PG who can really stretch the floor and is a better scorer.

However, Ujiri treats all of his players like prime Jordan and rivals Olshey in terms of overvaluing their players.
 
PCmor7 said:
Honestly, that's far from the worst trade idea I've seen on here
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Would you put it past Cronin to make another worst possible trade ever imagined? Getting Ben Simmons works great for making the Blazers worse. He could fake an injury, find an excuse not to play. Whether it's Dame or Ant going to the Nets, Ben Simmons wastoid contract + future picks will help Portland tank for the big number one next summer.
 
RonBrewer said:
Off Topic but Miami run was a pretty big fluke. Nobody expects them to really contend next year. At least i don't. Butler is going to regress sooner than later. Supporting cast ain't much.

Hell, Blazers could be better than them IMO. Need some pieces.
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We play in the loaded west, not the weak east lol
 
Whyachi said:
Would you put it past Cronin to make another worst possible trade ever imagined? Getting Ben Simmons works great for making the Blazers worse. He could fake an injury, find an excuse not to play. Whether it's Dame or Ant going to the Nets, Ben Simmons wastoid contract + future picks will help Portland tank for the big number one next summer.
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I don't think there's any motivation for Simmons not to try to redeem his reputation.
 
Natebishop3 said:
That was the report. So I guess it's up to a team to decide if they want to call his bluff.

The Kings traded for Webber and CWebb was not happy. They did win him over..... but there's a ton of risk.
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Here is a thought....maybe when Siakam stated that he did not want to be traded because he wants the super max next year,
it might have made them realize they need to get rid of him now so they don't have to pay him the max.
 
Maybe Siakam has been told we are gonna trade you to Portland to fleece them for some nice young pieces, then we will sign you back in Free agency next off season. Fuck Toronto, I think OG is junk with all his injuries and what has that team done since Kawhi left? I have no interest in any of their players except Barnes and that’s exactly what Joe should tell them.
 
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