If the Aldridge trade rumor is legit...

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RR7 said:
yeah, NO CHANCE Indiana does George and Hibbert. that's ridiculous.
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After they finished laughing, they MIGHT counter with Granger and Hibbert for Aldridge, but only because Granger and George play the same position and because Granger is coming off an injury. I'm still not convinced that Indiana wants to move Hibbert in the first place.
 
mook said:
If we could go back in time to around 2002 and trade Sheed for picks and a young big, would you do it? Personally, I probably would (and I was a huge Sheed fan). Add in that Hickson is a very serviceable starting PF (but a lousy starting center) who will walk away for nothing, and yeah, I can see a good argument for parlaying Aldridge.

Hickson's stats aren't as good as his actual play, but you have to remember he's only 24 and has been playing out of position at center for the majority of his NBA career. He's a high percentage scorer and a fantastic rebounder. He just needs to play at his natural position. And he needs to work at developing some offensive moves.

I'm not desperate to unload LMA, but Hickson's weird contract situation and his ability to give you a lot of Aldridge's productivity at PF make it a viable option. Has to involve a good center and a very nice pick coming back, though.
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We did trade Wallace when we had a serviceable PF (Zach) for draft picks and youth. How did that work out for us?
 
There is no way this rumor is legit. We are overachieving at the moment no underachieving and everything Olshley pointing away from something like this. It makes to much sense to play the season out like it is and then bolster the part of the team that sucks which is also the part of the team we will have the ability to bolster (our bench).
I could see us trading with the Wizards something like this
Portland trades - LA/Wes
Wiz trade - Okafer/Beal/Seraphin 2013 unprotected first (with Wes/LA they have a shot at the playoffs so they probably wont care to protect it) 2015 top 10 protected first.
I'm not a fan of trading away proven good talent for unproven talent but I couldn't be pissed with this trade.
 
magnifier661 said:
We did trade Wallace when we had a serviceable PF (Zach) for draft picks and youth. How did that work out for us?
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Draft picks and youth?

We traded him for Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Theo Ratliff...... What are you talking about?
 
Natebishop3 said:
Draft picks and youth?

We traded him for Shareef Abdur-Rahim and Theo Ratliff...... What are you talking about?
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Shareef (28) was younger, and so was Dickau (23). Theo Ratliff was used to give us a center, who was an allstar, since we cashed in on having Zach be our starting PF. The same could be applied for Aldridge; but he (28) is much younger than Sheed (30) was when he was traded.
 
mook said:
If we could go back in time to around 2002 and trade Sheed for picks and a young big, would you do it? Personally, I probably would (and I was a huge Sheed fan). Add in that Hickson is a very serviceable starting PF (but a lousy starting center) who will walk away for nothing, and yeah, I can see a good argument for parlaying Aldridge.

Hickson's stats aren't as good as his actual play, but you have to remember he's only 24 and has been playing out of position at center for the majority of his NBA career. He's a high percentage scorer and a fantastic rebounder. He just needs to play at his natural position. And he needs to work at developing some offensive moves.

I'm not desperate to unload LMA, but Hickson's weird contract situation and his ability to give you a lot of Aldridge's productivity at PF make it a viable option. Has to involve a good center and a very nice pick coming back, though.
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We would then have to overpay for Hickson to keep him this summer (probably starting around 9 mill a year). Just seems like a bad idea.
 
magnifier661 said:
Shareef (28) was younger, and so was Dickau (23). Theo Ratliff was used to give us a center, who was an allstar, since we cashed in on having Zach be our starting PF. The same could be applied for Aldridge; but he (28) is much younger than Sheed (30) was when he was traded.
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Mags you're flying over the cookoo's nest today buddy.

Firstly, you said "youth and draft picks"..... A 28 year old Abdur-Rahim, a 33 year old Theo Ratliff, and Dan Dickau does not equal "youth and draft picks". Not now, not ever.

Secondly, 28 years old is not "much younger" than 30 years old.
 
Natebishop3 said:
Mags you're flying over the cookoo's nest today buddy.

Firstly, you said "youth and draft picks"..... A 28 year old Abdur-Rahim, a 33 year old Theo Ratliff, and Dan Dickau does not equal "youth and draft picks". Not now, not ever.

Secondly, 28 years old is not "much younger" than 30 years old.
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LOL, I am always crazy! CRAZY LIKE A FOX!!!!!!!
 
The Houston and OKC scenarios laid out by MM make the most sense to me. I think I like the Houston one better simply because the thought of LMA on OKC scares me, and I wouldn't want to do anything that would make it more likely that the ex-Sonics win a title.
 
Man if we ever trade Aldridge; I hope it's to a Eastern Conference team. I definitely don't want him to go LaMonster on us. Look how he plays against Chicago. He makes damn sure they know what they were missing.
 
There are 2 ways this story has legs.

A) LMA is angry and wants out.

B) His hip and/or heart condition is worse than the team is letting on.
 
oldmangrouch said:
There are 2 ways this story has legs.

A) LMA is angry and wants out.

B) His hip and/or heart condition is worse than the team is letting on.
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If B was the case, I don't think the team could trade him anyway.
 
oldmangrouch said:
There are 2 ways this story has legs.

A) LMA is angry and wants out.

B) His hip and/or heart condition is worse than the team is letting on.
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C) Olshey thinks that a lottery picks and cap space this summer are a necessary part of the rebuild process, and concludes that trading LMA for picks/potential (and tanking this season) is the best way to do it.
 
mook said:
You had it set to "cumulative." If you just go by productivity this year, Brook is putting up far superior per minute stats (albeit in 9 fewer minutes/game). http://bkref.com/tiny/bBMAB
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I set it to cumulative on purpose, because LMA has had better years before the hip injury (I think he's on a down year set to improve again), and Lopez is having a really crazy good year, but who knows if it's the truth or not.

But yeah, this year, you have to package Leonard with LA just to keep Brooklyn from laughing you off the phone.
 
The main trouble with LMA + Leonard for a single player is that we've already got a bare cupboard. A move like that (nearly lateral) and surrendering more pieces prolongs any kind of rebuild timeline.
 
BlazerCaravan said:
I set it to cumulative on purpose, because LMA has had better years before the hip injury (I think he's on a down year set to improve again), and Lopez is having a really crazy good year, but who knows if it's the truth or not.

But yeah, this year, you have to package Leonard with LA just to keep Brooklyn from laughing you off the phone.
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Really?

Aldridge on a down year as you describe it is averaging more points and rebounds than Lopez. I realize it's in more minutes, but why is Lopez only playing 29.5 a game?

They may say no, but I can't see how they'd laugh us off the phone either
 
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