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blue9 said:
People said that about Meyers this year. If he commands a ridiculous salary next year, but not this year, that would mean that during the upcoming season he will have earned a ridiculous salary. And in that case I want to keep him. If that scenario unfolds after we renounce him it will be worse than trading Jerm for Davis.
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Can't the same be said about Plumlee? Who is your choice to move?
 
I think that Leonard's S&T complicates things a bit. Plumlee is a lot easier to move contract-wise, and has a semi-established skill set and starting experience. In scouting words, he has good tape. He also has a year left on the cheap, and then RFA ability if you're a team that wants a center for 5 years. If he's not going to be ours, now's the time to trade.

Leonard probably wouldn't bring back much right now, anyway, even if the numbers worked out. And if he signs the QO we're likely not getting much of anything for him.
 
PtldPlatypus said:
Actually we could go over the cap for him in that scenario, but only to as much as 120% of his prior year salary. That's no problem for Durant, because that will still get him to the max. For Ezeli, however, if he outperforms expectations in the first year, he could command significantly more than 120% of what we would pay him this year.
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That's true, there is the Non-Bird Exception, but the raises that can be offered in that case are lower at 4.5% (for comparison, the raises you can offer a Bird Exception player are 7.5%).

If Durant wants his largest possible deal, the Warriors aren't going to be able to use the Non-Bird Exception, they'll need actual cap room (but they should have it: the cap room Durant is currently occupying, plus the cap going up which will--for obvious reasons--cover the max contract also going up).
 
OSUBlazerfan said:
At this point, I'd like to keep ALL of the players plus add Ezeli. That would bump my offseason grade to at least a B+ pending what they do with Plumlee.
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We would have 16 players
 
Ok this is weird.

Here's the same pic from the Blazers IG acct:

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That background shirt is blacked out.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Can't the same be said about Plumlee? Who is your choice to move?
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Well, yes kinda - he wasn't available for a big payday this summer like Meyers was/is. People said Meyers was gonna get MAXed out this summer, so we better trade him so we don't lose him for nothing. So far, that doesn't look like it's going to happen. So my point was that I don't think it's a valid claim to make regarding Meyers, and that if he does get paid next summer it will be because he finally turned the corner and will have earned a big contract...in which case it would be an awful idea to dump him for nothing now.

I don't wanna move anybody for Ezeli. But I do think that, at some point this season, we need to trade Davis or Plumlee, and I wouldn't be opposed to trading both. Davis is the least skilled big on the team, and may bring back the most value since he's not expiring like Plumlee - so he'd be my first choice. But if we can get more value from Plumlee then shop him.
 
BrianFromWA said:
I think that Leonard's S&T complicates things a bit. Plumlee is a lot easier to move contract-wise, and has a semi-established skill set and starting experience. In scouting words, he has good tape. He also has a year left on the cheap, and then RFA ability if you're a team that wants a center for 5 years. If he's not going to be ours, now's the time to trade.

Leonard probably wouldn't bring back much right now, anyway, even if the numbers worked out. And if he signs the QO we're likely not getting much of anything for him.
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I agree, if he's not going to be ours then trade him. But I think he should be ours..... long term. I could be wrong, but I would be more comfortable seeing how he improves over the next year before unloading him. Get me a lottery pick and I will change my mind. But that won't happen. It will be protected.
 
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pic doesn't work.

And how about the large black arm coming out of said shirt?
 
Minstrel said:
That's true, there is the Non-Bird Exception, but the raises that can be offered in that case are lower at 4.5% (for comparison, the raises you can offer a Bird Exception player are 7.5%).

If Durant wants his largest possible deal, the Warriors aren't going to be able to use the Non-Bird Exception, they'll need actual cap room (but they should have it: the cap room Durant is currently occupying, plus the cap going up which will--for obvious reasons--cover the max contract also going up).
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True, although Durant could just do another 2yr w/opt-out deal, and do a 4 year w/7.5% raises deal the next year with the early bird rights that the Warriors would have gained by then.
 
It's not the same shirt. One has a zipper, one does not. Plus I doubt Ezeli put on an earring after not wearing it on the plane.

Oopps never mind. I see you guys are talking about the guy in the corner of the photo.
 
I'm probably in the minority on this one, but I have a huge soft spot in my heart for guys who can play 20mpg with a 20PER and plus defense against big men, and can shoot 60% on the few shots he does get. Especially on a supremely team-friendly contract.

Now, if a late lotto pick's coming back, I think that's the right price. Since it's not, please keep Ed.
 
I'd trade Mo and Myers for Ezeli IF we still had Mike Rice on TV mispronouncing his name over and over and over...
 
PtldPlatypus said:
True, although Durant could just do another 2yr w/opt-out deal, and do a 4 year w/7.5% raises deal the next year with the early bird rights that the Warriors would have gained by then.
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The problem with that is the cap is expected to peak next off-season and then actually drop in the years after. I'm not completely sure about why that is, but I remember a Zach Lowe article when he talked about that. I assume Durant will want to cash in next off-season.
 
Minstrel said:
The problem with that is the cap is expected to peak next off-season and then actually drop in the years after. I'm not completely sure about why that is, but I remember a Zach Lowe article when he talked about that. I assume Durant will want to cash in next off-season.
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Latest projection has cap going up to 102, then 108 then topping at 114.
 
Minstrel said:
The problem with that is the cap is expected to peak next off-season and then actually drop in the years after. I'm not completely sure about why that is, but I remember a Zach Lowe article when he talked about that. I assume Durant will want to cash in next off-season.
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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/16859143/nba-salary-cap-projection-2017-18-season-lower-expected

Next year is now projected at 102M vs. 108M.
The league also released projections through the 2020-21 season.

• 2018-19 salary cap and luxury tax: $108 million/$130 million

• 2019-20 salary cap and luxury tax: $109 million/$132 million

• 2020-21 salary cap and luxury tax: $114 million/$139 million
 
blue9 said:
Well, yes kinda - he wasn't available for a big payday this summer like Meyers was/is. People said Meyers was gonna get MAXed out this summer, so we better trade him so we don't lose him for nothing. So far, that doesn't look like it's going to happen. So my point was that I don't think it's a valid claim to make regarding Meyers, and that if he does get paid next summer it will be because he finally turned the corner and will have earned a big contract...in which case it would be an awful idea to dump him for nothing now.

I don't wanna move anybody for Ezeli. But I do think that, at some point this season, we need to trade Davis or Plumlee, and I wouldn't be opposed to trading both. Davis is the least skilled big on the team, and may bring back the most value since he's not expiring like Plumlee - so he'd be my first choice. But if we can get more value from Plumlee then shop him.
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Davis is one of the best offensive rebounders in the league and he loves Portland. Keep him.
 
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