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So this is what I'm starting to comprehend........
The same group of people who voted for Trump, also loves guns, want to kill animals, don't believe in global warming, and all have the same opinion of dviss on here? Did I miss anything? You probably think the world was created in 7 days as well huh? It is interesting how they all kinda tie together. I'm sure i'll get hollered at by said people for this, but am I wrong? For those more in the know of the OT page, what other shared traits are there? Did they support the march in Charlottesville? Building a wall to keep us safe from Mexicans? I'm sure there is some differing opinions amongst them, but I'm correct right?
You missed almost everything. Hate guns, don't even like killing bugs. Love eating chicken, love steak. Love the devious one even though I only agree with him 25 percent of the time (been meaning to ask YOU what those "militant" things your friends say on Facebook)

Global warming, ah we fucked the planet up pretty good huh?

SUPPORTED THE MARCH???!!! HA!

Wasn't it labeled a free speech march? Then I'd support it. I EVEN want the idiot virgin Nazis to be able to spew their idiotic garbage freely. (Then we can all laugh at them)

Don't want a stupid wall. Want employers punished when they hire illegals. Don't care what country they are from, not here legally? Bye. Spanish speakers are just the most obvious ones. Don't see Chinese people standing outside of Home Depot very often.

If Melania Trump pulled any kind of scam to get here on some "Einstein" visa I'd deport her too.

Sooooo, you're about as correct as you are about anything.

By the way, some of those 5 million pairs of shoes have to be made out of leather don't they? Hypocrisy is such a bitch. Have the decency to admit it when it is pointed out. I'll admit it on anything anyone cares to point out.
 
As far as I understand "butthurt" has not generally been considered an insult here, so much as a description of the labeler's perception of the labelee's reason for posting responding in a certain way
Couldn't calling someone "racist" fall under this too though? That's been deemed an insult.
 
SUPPORTED THE MARCH???!!! HA!

Wasn't it labeled a free speech march? Then I'd support it. I EVEN want the idiot virgin Nazis to be able to spew their idiotic garbage freely. (Then we can all laugh at them)
Yup. There's a difference between supporting someone's right to march compared to supporting what their march stands for.
 
Couldn't calling someone "racist" fall under this too though? That's been deemed an insult.
Different in my mind, in that "racist" is more a character definition rather than a temporary situational descriptor.

There are never going to be crystal clear lines; we do the best we can.
 
Different in my mind, in that "racist" is more a character definition rather than a temporary situational descriptor.

There are never going to be crystal clear lines; we do the best we can.
So if somebody says "you're always butthurt" that's an insult?

Lol. I know its tough.
 
Their lack of belief in global warming is what baffles me the most.

Do they not believe that in the past few decades, we've been churning out CO2 faster than the Earth can take back in? Do they not believe that we're adding CO2 to our atmosphere?

Or do they not believe in the greenhouse effect?

I don't understand which one of those they believe is a lie.
It isn't a belief of mine, although I'd actually like a real plan that the US doesn't pay for while other countries just continue to pollute away at will.
 
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Those fools have issues.
 
I didn't vote for Trump.

I am happy he's taking a hatchet to government, though. If it takes breaking a few eggs, so be it.

Sure he is... (not)

But what about all the money he's spending on trips to Maralago? However the F you spell it he's waiting a TON of money on travel. He spent more on travel in one year than Obama in both terms...
 
Oh OK I shall give it a go, one by one.



>>> I did indeed! I hope you can join me on the next opportunity.


>>> I don't love guns, I think of them as tools. Learned to use then very well while a young person. A prudent person should have the option to be armed.


>>>I sure did back when I was young and had to fend for myself. I appreciated each and every kill. I learn it was not a sport at all. I do not do it at all any longer, as I have no need. Much easier to let the butcher do the work for me.


>>>Not really sure which you mean here. Sure there is climate change. But if you want support for the agenda? Wrong dude to seek here.


>>> I doubt there is a consensus opinion of dviss. I do not see him calling me racist daily so perhaps there is some improvement in dviss' outlook on the world. I really do not know.


>>>Ah! If you don't pay enough attention to avoid questions like this, nothing I could say again will help you either.


>>> You must judge right from wrong.


>>> I would proffer, we Trump voter appreciate the rule of law, and the Constitution of the United States very much.


>>> It seemed to me the City government setup that fiasco. Not much to support in that management bungle at all.


>>> Yes I support all efforts to control the traffic in and out of the US. It has been a shambles my whole life. One promise never kept after another. The United States should not be the overflow destination as the overflow relief for any Nation, especially since we are also reaching or have already reach our maximum sustainable population.


>>>Count up the score, what is the verdict?

#Quotemyfuckingnamewhenyouspeakit
 
Sure he is... (not)

But what about all the money he's spending on trips to Maralago? However the F you spell it he's waiting a TON of money on travel. He spent more on travel in one year than Obama in both terms...

I have seen no figures that back up that statement, but I have heard it from the left. Can you back that up?
 
Couldn't calling someone "racist" fall under this too though? That's been deemed an insult.

I've been called racist many times in this forum. @MARIS61 has done it on numerous occasions.

Others like @Nate and @MarAzul have called me this before too. It's always in a response to me calling out racism.

You don't see me tryna get people banned for it. I even thought @Cippy91's banning was above and beyond.

Personally MFs shouldn't be so butthurt about it.

Calling me racist really doesn't bother me because I know I'm not.

These kids and their parents know the deal so I don't need affirmation from forum denizens:

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#22 Nick is my son's best friend. I have white family too. So again, calling me racist really just makes folks look stupid for doing it.
 
I have seen no figures that back up that statement, but I have heard it from the left. Can you back that up?

Really???

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/01/20/tru...his-first-year-exceed-13-million-dollars.html

President Trump's travel costs now total over $13 million, right-leaning Judicial Watch reports
  • Report by Judicial Watch shows President Donald Trump's travel costs since June totaled $3,199,188.30.
  • In total, Judicial Watch calculates his travel costs to be $13,533,937.28.
  • One trip to Trump's Bedminster golf club cost $15,994 per hour.
The total cost of President Donald Trump's travel expenses — including trips to his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida, and Bedminster, N.J. golf club — has now surpassed $13.5 million, according to a report by Judical Watch.

Through Freedom of Information Act requests, the conservative watchdog group accessed documents from the U.S. Department of the Air Force. Those data show that the president's non-official travel to rallies and vacations have cost $3.2 million alone since June of 2017.

All told, the president has amassed $13,533,937.28 in total first-year travel costs, the organization found. The government shutdownprevented Trump from making his latest sojourn to Mar-a-Lago, where he was scheduled to headline a fundraiser.


On June 30, Trump and First Lady Melania Trump took a trip to the Bedminster golf club, on a flight which cost $15,994 per hour. In total, the trip cost $44,783.

Since June, Trump also visited Alabama, Arizona and Missouri for campaign trips and rallies. The trip to Arizona alone, where he met with Marines and hosted a rally, cost over $1.5 million. Two trips by Trump to Mar-a-Lago, including a trip where he met with Chinese President Xi Jinping, cost over $1 million, Judicial Watch previously reported.

High costs for the travel and security of Trump, his wife, and his adult children led the Secret Service to meet budget constraints for the pay of hundreds of agents in August of 2017.

Estimates by the military say operation of the presidential plane costs about $206,000 an hour, The Washington Post reports.

Judicial Watch also tracked the cost of former U.S. President Barack Obama and his family throughout the former president's entire 8-year tenure. To date, the organization reported their travel costs reached a grand total of $114,691,322.17.
 
Sure he is... (not)

But what about all the money he's spending on trips to Maralago? However the F you spell it he's waiting a TON of money on travel. He spent more on travel in one year than Obama in both terms...
Irritating as fuck. I wonder if I'd like the White House or Maralago. Probably neither
 
#Quotemyfuckingnamewhenyouspeakit

Funny you sent me this comment. Skipping the Source we all quoted and the other 3 or 4 that quoted the source (HCP) that did not quote your name.
 
This is from CNN though...

Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump's travel to his private club in Florida has cost over an estimated $20 million in his first 80 days as president, putting the president on pace in his first year of office to surpass former President Barack Obama's spending on travel for his entire eight years.

The outsized spending on travel stands in stark relief to Trump's calls for belt tightening across the federal government and the fact that he regularly criticized Obama for costing the American taxpayer money every time he took a trip.
Given variations in each trip, estimating the security costs around a presidential trip is difficult. But a 2016 Government Accountability Office report about a four-day trip Obama took to Florida in 2013 -- one similar to Trump's trips -- found the total cost to the Secret Service and Coast Guard was $3.6 million.




Trump notches his 13th golf course visit

To date, Trump has spent six weekends -- and a total of 21 days -- at Mar-A-Lago, his private Palm Beach club. The total estimated costs for those trips are around $21.6 million.
Obama, by contrast, spent just under $97 million on travel in his eight years as president, according to documents reviewed by Judicial Watch, a conservative government watchdog. These trips included personal trips - including ski trips to Aspen and the Obama's annual family vacation in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts -- and work trips, like a visit to Everglades National Park on Earth Day in 2015.
Trump's frequent weekend travel makes it all but certain the 45th President will surpass Obama's spending in his first term, likely within months.
The spending comes as Trump asks the federal government to slash non-defense spending by $54 billion, including deep cuts to the State Department, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Environmental Protection Agency and the wholesale elimination of other federal programs. The proposed cuts, which are unlikely to be adopted in total, will correspond with $54 billion in increases to defense spending.
Trump's frequent trips to Florida will likely end soon. Businesses in Palm Beach County have been told to expect the president to visit through May, but that Trump will likely stop visiting after that because the weather in the area begins to get stiflingly hot.
170221082557-president-trump-pm-abe-golf-0211-large-169.jpg


Instead, many expect Trump will then start making frequent trips to his penthouse apartment at Trump Tower in New York City -- where first lady Melania Trump has been living for the first part of 2017 as their son, Baron, finishes school -- and his private Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster Township, New Jersey.
Trump is said to be particularly fond of his New Jersey property. Ivanka Trump was married there, and Trump used the country club as president-elect to put together his government after winning November's election. In a sign of his love for the club, Trump has expressed a desire to be buried on the property.
But as much as the trips are a budget problem for Trump, they are also a public relations issue.
The president was an outspoken critic of Obama's travel, routinely slamming his predecessor on Twitter for his holiday trips home to Hawaii.
"The habitual vacationer, @BarackObama, is now in Hawaii. This vacation is costing taxpayers $4 milion +++ while there is 20% unemployment," Trump tweeted in 2011 with an incorrect unemployment figure.
Trump later tweeted: "President @BarackObama's vacation is costing taxpayers millions of dollars——Unbelievable!"
High costs of security and travel
Despite these comments, Trump and his family have proven to be an expensive first family to protect.
Not only does Trump travel frequently, but New York City officials have said it costs between $127,000 to $146,000 a day to protect first lady Melania Trump when she is in New York and the president is not there.
Trump has yet to visit New York as president.
The extensive needs of the Trump family have put strains staffing on the Secret Service, too.
Dozens of agents from field offices across the country, including New York, have been temporarily pulled off their normal criminal investigation duties to work two-week rotations protecting members of the large Trump family, Secret Service officials told CNN.
Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said earlier this month that the Department of Homeland Security will ask for additional funding to protect Trump.
"They need a lot more agents, not just because of the Trump era, although that is additional because he has a lot of children and grandchildren," Kelly told senators on the Homeland Security Committee. "We need more agents and we need more uniformed personnel."
Kelly also acknowledged the strain the Secret Service is under.
"We need a larger Secret Service," Kelly said, "because we need to get some of these people a little bit of time at home with their families."
 
This is from CNN though...

Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump's travel to his private club in Florida has cost over an estimated $20 million in his first 80 days as president, putting the president on pace in his first year of office to surpass former President Barack Obama's spending on travel for his entire eight years.

The outsized spending on travel stands in stark relief to Trump's calls for belt tightening across the federal government and the fact that he regularly criticized Obama for costing the American taxpayer money every time he took a trip.
Given variations in each trip, estimating the security costs around a presidential trip is difficult. But a 2016 Government Accountability Office report about a four-day trip Obama took to Florida in 2013 -- one similar to Trump's trips -- found the total cost to the Secret Service and Coast Guard was $3.6 million.




Trump notches his 13th golf course visit

To date, Trump has spent six weekends -- and a total of 21 days -- at Mar-A-Lago, his private Palm Beach club. The total estimated costs for those trips are around $21.6 million.
Obama, by contrast, spent just under $97 million on travel in his eight years as president, according to documents reviewed by Judicial Watch, a conservative government watchdog. These trips included personal trips - including ski trips to Aspen and the Obama's annual family vacation in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts -- and work trips, like a visit to Everglades National Park on Earth Day in 2015.
Trump's frequent weekend travel makes it all but certain the 45th President will surpass Obama's spending in his first term, likely within months.
The spending comes as Trump asks the federal government to slash non-defense spending by $54 billion, including deep cuts to the State Department, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Environmental Protection Agency and the wholesale elimination of other federal programs. The proposed cuts, which are unlikely to be adopted in total, will correspond with $54 billion in increases to defense spending.
Trump's frequent trips to Florida will likely end soon. Businesses in Palm Beach County have been told to expect the president to visit through May, but that Trump will likely stop visiting after that because the weather in the area begins to get stiflingly hot.
170221082557-president-trump-pm-abe-golf-0211-large-169.jpg


Instead, many expect Trump will then start making frequent trips to his penthouse apartment at Trump Tower in New York City -- where first lady Melania Trump has been living for the first part of 2017 as their son, Baron, finishes school -- and his private Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster Township, New Jersey.
Trump is said to be particularly fond of his New Jersey property. Ivanka Trump was married there, and Trump used the country club as president-elect to put together his government after winning November's election. In a sign of his love for the club, Trump has expressed a desire to be buried on the property.
But as much as the trips are a budget problem for Trump, they are also a public relations issue.
The president was an outspoken critic of Obama's travel, routinely slamming his predecessor on Twitter for his holiday trips home to Hawaii.
"The habitual vacationer, @BarackObama, is now in Hawaii. This vacation is costing taxpayers $4 milion +++ while there is 20% unemployment," Trump tweeted in 2011 with an incorrect unemployment figure.
Trump later tweeted: "President @BarackObama's vacation is costing taxpayers millions of dollars——Unbelievable!"
High costs of security and travel
Despite these comments, Trump and his family have proven to be an expensive first family to protect.
Not only does Trump travel frequently, but New York City officials have said it costs between $127,000 to $146,000 a day to protect first lady Melania Trump when she is in New York and the president is not there.
Trump has yet to visit New York as president.
The extensive needs of the Trump family have put strains staffing on the Secret Service, too.
Dozens of agents from field offices across the country, including New York, have been temporarily pulled off their normal criminal investigation duties to work two-week rotations protecting members of the large Trump family, Secret Service officials told CNN.
Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said earlier this month that the Department of Homeland Security will ask for additional funding to protect Trump.
"They need a lot more agents, not just because of the Trump era, although that is additional because he has a lot of children and grandchildren," Kelly told senators on the Homeland Security Committee. "We need more agents and we need more uniformed personnel."
Kelly also acknowledged the strain the Secret Service is under.
"We need a larger Secret Service," Kelly said, "because we need to get some of these people a little bit of time at home with their families."

Trump needs to take vacations on his own dime
 
This is from CNN though...

Trump on pace to surpass 8 years of Obama's travel spending in 1 year

Washington (CNN)Donald Trump's travel to his private club in Florida has cost over an estimated $20 million in his first 80 days as president, putting the president on pace in his first year of office to surpass former President Barack Obama's spending on travel for his entire eight years.

The outsized spending on travel stands in stark relief to Trump's calls for belt tightening across the federal government and the fact that he regularly criticized Obama for costing the American taxpayer money every time he took a trip.
Given variations in each trip, estimating the security costs around a presidential trip is difficult. But a 2016 Government Accountability Office report about a four-day trip Obama took to Florida in 2013 -- one similar to Trump's trips -- found the total cost to the Secret Service and Coast Guard was $3.6 million.




Trump notches his 13th golf course visit

To date, Trump has spent six weekends -- and a total of 21 days -- at Mar-A-Lago, his private Palm Beach club. The total estimated costs for those trips are around $21.6 million.
Obama, by contrast, spent just under $97 million on travel in his eight years as president, according to documents reviewed by Judicial Watch, a conservative government watchdog. These trips included personal trips - including ski trips to Aspen and the Obama's annual family vacation in Martha's Vineyard, Massachusetts -- and work trips, like a visit to Everglades National Park on Earth Day in 2015.
Trump's frequent weekend travel makes it all but certain the 45th President will surpass Obama's spending in his first term, likely within months.
The spending comes as Trump asks the federal government to slash non-defense spending by $54 billion, including deep cuts to the State Department, the Department of Housing and Urban Development, the Environmental Protection Agency and the wholesale elimination of other federal programs. The proposed cuts, which are unlikely to be adopted in total, will correspond with $54 billion in increases to defense spending.
Trump's frequent trips to Florida will likely end soon. Businesses in Palm Beach County have been told to expect the president to visit through May, but that Trump will likely stop visiting after that because the weather in the area begins to get stiflingly hot.
170221082557-president-trump-pm-abe-golf-0211-large-169.jpg


Instead, many expect Trump will then start making frequent trips to his penthouse apartment at Trump Tower in New York City -- where first lady Melania Trump has been living for the first part of 2017 as their son, Baron, finishes school -- and his private Trump National Golf Club in Bedminster Township, New Jersey.
Trump is said to be particularly fond of his New Jersey property. Ivanka Trump was married there, and Trump used the country club as president-elect to put together his government after winning November's election. In a sign of his love for the club, Trump has expressed a desire to be buried on the property.
But as much as the trips are a budget problem for Trump, they are also a public relations issue.
The president was an outspoken critic of Obama's travel, routinely slamming his predecessor on Twitter for his holiday trips home to Hawaii.
"The habitual vacationer, @BarackObama, is now in Hawaii. This vacation is costing taxpayers $4 milion +++ while there is 20% unemployment," Trump tweeted in 2011 with an incorrect unemployment figure.
Trump later tweeted: "President @BarackObama's vacation is costing taxpayers millions of dollars——Unbelievable!"
High costs of security and travel
Despite these comments, Trump and his family have proven to be an expensive first family to protect.
Not only does Trump travel frequently, but New York City officials have said it costs between $127,000 to $146,000 a day to protect first lady Melania Trump when she is in New York and the president is not there.
Trump has yet to visit New York as president.
The extensive needs of the Trump family have put strains staffing on the Secret Service, too.
Dozens of agents from field offices across the country, including New York, have been temporarily pulled off their normal criminal investigation duties to work two-week rotations protecting members of the large Trump family, Secret Service officials told CNN.
Homeland Security Secretary John Kelly said earlier this month that the Department of Homeland Security will ask for additional funding to protect Trump.
"They need a lot more agents, not just because of the Trump era, although that is additional because he has a lot of children and grandchildren," Kelly told senators on the Homeland Security Committee. "We need more agents and we need more uniformed personnel."
Kelly also acknowledged the strain the Secret Service is under.
"We need a larger Secret Service," Kelly said, "because we need to get some of these people a little bit of time at home with their families."
I'd impeach him over that if it is possible. What a waste. Then again we blow billions and billions every year.
 
I've been called racist many times in this forum. @MARIS61 has done it on numerous occasions.

Others like @Nate and @MarAzul have called me this before too. It's always in a response to me calling out racism.

You don't see me tryna get people banned for it. I even thought @Cippy91's banning was above and beyond.

Personally MFs shouldn't be so butthurt about it.

Calling me racist really doesn't bother me because I know I'm not.

These kids and their parents know the deal so I don't need affirmation from forum denizens:

28616805_1704778796231787_6858071087582722123_o.jpg


#22 Nick is my son's best friend. I have white family too. So again, calling me racist really just makes folks look stupid for doing it.
I know I'm not racist but I know I say things that people judge me for. Some legit, some bull.
 
I guess some things never change!

I’m a racist asshole didn’t you know!?
It is the short part that isn't nice. He can't easily change his height. I mean, he could save lots of money and get that surgery where they smash your bones and stretch them out while they heal. Takes like a year I think, maybe per bone.
 
I don't use green font.

Like when @dviss1 said Hispanic people are the hardest workers that is fine, but who is the laziest then?

If you say so and so is the laziest you're racist. There's a flip side to everything.
Everybody else is tied for 2nd hardest working. I don't know who holds the tiebreakers..
 

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