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But a still image from the video indicates what appears to be a vertical laceration or scar several inches long.

ABC did note that at the 49-second mark in the video, one of the police officers accompanying Zimmerman stops to look at the back of Zimmerman’s head for several seconds. Zimmerman, as ABC News noted, did not visit the emergency room after police interviewed him.
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EL PRESIDENTE said:
I really thought he was all gung ho against the NDAA of 2012, specifically the infinite detention. He says one thing, but when he doesn't agree he seems to look the other way. :MARIS61:
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The funny part to me was that he thought that the police charged people with crimes, and not the DA. You'd think he'd watched enough Boston Legal to know this basic difference in job responsibilities. I don't even care that he called me a "fool", because his flailing was worth the insult.
 
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It's hard to see much in that film but other angles don't show the same injury
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PapaG said:
The funny part to me was that he thought that the police charged people with crimes, and not the DA. You'd think he'd watched enough Boston Legal to know this basic difference in job responsibilities. I don't even care that he called me a "fool", because his flailing was worth the insult.
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I know the DA charges people for crime, but the police arrest people for crimes. They obviously did, as the video shows Zimmerman in handcuffs taken to the police station. The police requested an arrest warrant and have the right to hold a suspect while they determine if there is probable cause for arrest.

I am fully behind a person's right to own a gun, to carry a gun (even concealed), and to use a gun in self defense. But when a murder is committed (there's a dead body, death by gunshot here), the COURTS should decide what degree of murder (e.g. first degree, manslaughter, or justifiable homicide). If anything, detaining Zimmerman prevents him from taking his own life (guilt over killing someone), a mob from lynching him, prevents him from fleeing, and gives the cops the time to gather information and evidence.

People are throwing around "facts" here and elsewhere as if they're decisive. There are facts on both sides of the issue. Who was the guy screaming? Some people may come to the conclusion one way or the other from what's presented on TV or some WWW site, but the courts' actual purpose is to figure those things out, to determine the facts, to determine the truth, to administer justice.

Some people here are acting as police, judge, and jury. The only sure fact in this case is the boy was shot. Period.

Self defense is a legal defense. It's something you claim in court when charges are filed against you, and you present evidence to prove it. The burden of proof is severe for the prosecution as it should be. One juror says you're innocent and you get off.
 
The security video of a man who allegedly was in a life and death struggle, had his nose broken, got a concussion, was pinnned to the ground, etc. shows a man without a scratch or a bruise on him, without a bandaid, walking without assistance, seemingly showing no emotion.
 
crandc said:
The security video of a man who allegedly was in a life and death struggle, had his nose broken, got a concussion, was pinnned to the ground, etc. shows a man without a scratch or a bruise on him, without a bandaid, walking without assistance, seemingly showing no emotion.
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49 seconds, cop is looking at the back of Zimmerman's head as if he was examining it.

discoloration at 1:06 or so....its a blurry video, so you can't really tell if its just a reflection or what.
 
What if they're both fucking scum bags? What if both of them fucked up? What if it was a "perfect" convergence of unfortunate circumstance? Who's to blame then, huh? Sometimes there's no black and white answer. In fact, most times there's no black and white answer. Why does every thing have to come down to "your side" and "my side?" - neither side ever has all the information or relative perspective. Step back, calm the fuck down, and admit you might not know every thing.
 
that would be the quickest thread EVER!

"so, something happened, not sure what though. sure is sad"

"yeah me neither, and yeah it is"

the end
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
49 seconds, cop is looking at the back of Zimmerman's head as if he was examining it.

discoloration at 1:06 or so....its a blurry video, so you can't really tell if its just a reflection or what.
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He doesn't look like he was punched in the nose though.
 
The video is useless either way. Simply too poor quality to show wounds or the absence of wounds.

Same with the supposed whispered words on the 911 tape. Could be saying anything, or nothing, and no way to prove who said what.

So far with what little actual evidence and statements made available I'd say there's zero indication that race had anything at all to do with this. And so far, Zimmerman's story seems to not only hold up well with the few facts reported, it seems far more plausible than any other theories.

BTW, race card players, "Hoodies" were first made popular by the Unibomber, who was as white. It's always cracked me up that black criminals (unknowingly?) adopted his look as their own, but then criminals usually aren't very bright.
 
You also need to factor in that it was a gated community, so people on community watch patrol have a general idea of who lives and who doesn't live in the neighborhood. Also, there had been a string of recent break-ins.
 
EL PRESIDENTE said:
You also need to factor in that it was a gated community, so people on community watch patrol have a general idea of who lives and who doesn't live in the neighborhood. Also, there had been a string of recent break-ins.
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Also need to factor in that he was black in a primarily white neighborhood and had skittles in his hand. He should have been capped on the spot, ask questions later.
 
It wasn't "primarily white", it was 49% white, 20% black from what I read.
 
Unintended consequences...

http://marathonpundit.blogspot.com/2012/03/six-shot-one-dead-in-bobby-hoodie-rushs.html

Six shot, one dead in Bobby "Hoodie" Rush's district tonight

Yesterday Rep. Bobby Rush (D-IL) donned a hoodie as he spoke on the floor of Congress yesterday, to draw attention to the Trayvon Martin case. But about an hour ago inside a store six people were shot on the 1400 block of West 79th Street on Chicago's South Side-which is in Rush's district.

One of the victims is dead. This section of the South Side is predominantly African-American.

Will Rush, a former Black Panther, express outrage over this tragedy?

Oh, where was his outrage during St. Patrick's Day weekend when 10 Chicagoans were murdered, including 10 year-old Aliyah Shell?

By the way, ten miles north of where tonight's shooting occurred, Vice President Joe Biden was the star attraction at an Obama-Biden fundraiser.

UPDATE 8:10pm CDT: The Chicago Tribune has more details. Four of the wounded in tonight's shooting are in critical condition, the ages of the victims range from 16 to 25.

UPDATE 10:00pm CDT: The Trib expanded their story--and get this, the scumbag shooters were wearing hooded sweatshirts.

UPDATE March 30 7:45am: It was a violent night in Chicago. Within four hours, 13 Chicagoans were shot, two of the victims are dead. Oh, the part in the Tribune about the hooded sweatshirts is here now.
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Will Bobby Rush and the rest of the CBC have hearing on these crimes?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...-in-gresham-shooting-20120329,0,4943899.story

By Carlos Sadovi and Andy Grimm
Tribune reporters
7:00 a.m. CDT, March 30, 2012

The Rev. Londale McNeal had just left his church in the Gresham neighborhood and was driving down the block when he heard gunfire, 10 maybe 12 shots.

From his rearview mirror, McNeal saw two young men in hooded sweatshirts rush out of a convenience store and jump into a gray SUV and speed off.

He turned back to the store and ran inside. "There were young men scattered everywhere," he said. "Some of them were screaming. . .You could see the wounds."

McNeal said he called for ambulances. He recognized the victims as young men from the neighborhood who he had tried to lure to the boxing gym his church had opened near the store. "These are some of the same ones I pray for every day.”

Police say the two gunmen entered the Bishop Golden Store in the the 1400 block of West 79th Street around 6 p.m. and opened fire, hitting six people inside the store between the ages of 16 and 24.

Shawndell Harris, of the 9600 block of South Perry Avenue, was killed, according to the Cook County medical examiner's office.

Two others were taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center, two to Stroger Hospital and the fifth victim to Holy Cross Hospital, police said. Four of them were in critical condition as they were taken to the hospitals.

Community activist Andrew Holmes said he saw three of the victims outside the store after the shooting, one leaning against the wall, one sitting on the sidewalk and another on the curb. Two other men were inside, one of them dead.

"They were all hollering and yelling," he said.

Police say one of the shooters was armed with a TEC-9-type gun. The SUV was found abandoned near 76th Street and Ashland Avenue, police said. Detectives were reviewing surveillance video, but no one was reported in custody.

The motive for the shooting was unclear, but police said at least one of the six victims may have been selling drugs in or around the store earlier in the day.

The Rev. Michael Pfleger stood with the crowd gathered at the police line in the parking lot of a White Castle restaurant on Loomis. Pfleger pointed out that the police surveillance camera mounted across the street from the store, and said when the shooting happened, the streets would have been crowded with people.

"Somebody must have seen something. They need to come forward," he said.

chicagobreaking@tribune.com
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I posted that on another site and was accused of being racist because I posted it. :MARIS61:
 
THIS IS NOT IMPORTANT! DO NOT LOOK BEHIND THAT CURTAIN!

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what's the relevance of the article, exactly?
 
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