Is a deal in the works? Miami related

[OSUBlazerfan]

Ok, so if you believe alanhahn and chris broussard, miami will have the big 3. The only way, currently, that this would work would be for them 3 to take a pay cut....

So, my opinion is that they will have to trade beasley to get them all MAX contracts...

We, the Blazers, have been linked to Miami for a while now, is it possible that there is a deal in place before they all sign on the dotted line that includes the Blazers???

Maybe.... we will see

 

[ehizzy3]

i don't want to help miami...even if we get beasley(who i happen to like)

 

[BrianFromWA]

it'd be tough...the bargaining chips we had before were Gomes' non-guaranteed contract and the ability to send players somewhere for cap space who didn't want Beasley. Bucher said that WAS or SAC would be all over taking Beasley for their cap space if MIA needed.

 

[GoBlazersGo]

Clearly we needed another thread on Miami...

 

[Mediocre Man]

Portland trading for Beasley doesn't really help Miami. If Portland could absorb his salary then great, but we'd have to send salary back.

Ideally I'd like to see us "help out" Miami by taking Beasley and their two firsts next year

 

[Sedatedfork]

Portland trading for Beasley doesn't really help Miami. If Portland could absorb his salary then great, but we'd have to send salary back.

Ideally I'd like to see us "help out" Miami by taking Beasley and their two firsts next year

Don't we have a TE, or does that not work since Beasley makes more than the trade exception?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Don't we have a TE, or does that not work since Beasley makes more than the trade exception?

I don't think we do?

 

[OSUBlazerfan]

TKB

source says miami frantically trying to move beasley in a 3-way deal. Nothing done as of yet.

Maybe this is us?

 

[Mediocre Man]

Portland really should try to "help them out" by taking Beasley and their 2 firsts

 

[hasoos]

Fuck that I don't want another ISO player in the offense.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Fuck that I don't want another ISO player in the offense.

He is expiring, and can be moved. The picks is what you do the deal for

 

[RR7]

Lebron, Wade and Bosh, their pick is going to be 30. Toronto's is lottery protected until 2014 or 2015. That trade would need to be more about Beasley than those 2 firsts, because they'll suck.

 

[hasoos]

He is expiring, and can be moved. The picks is what you do the deal for

I don't agree. I say you don't help Miami, at all. You make them have all the problem that they can have. Plus do you really think that it would go that smoothly after dealing with Rudy this year?

Also you know where those picks are going to be? In the 20's at best. Do the Blazers need more picks? No they don't need any more picks. They need guys who can play and make an impact. You aren't going to find those at 20+ in the draft very often, especially with the fucked up management we have in control right now.

 

[Erroneous Subterfuge]

Lebron, Wade and Bosh, their pick is going to be 30. Toronto's is lottery protected until 2014 or 2015. That trade would need to be more about Beasley than those 2 firsts, because they'll suck.

so basically everything coming our way sucks.. I can see why we'd want to jump on that.

 

[Mediocre Man]

I don't agree. I say you don't help Miami, at all. You make them have all the problem that they can have. Plus do you really think that it would go that smoothly after dealing with Rudy this year?

Also you know where those picks are going to be? In the 20's at best. Do the Blazers need more picks? No they don't need any more picks. They need guys who can play and make an impact. You aren't going to find those at 20+ in the draft very often, especially with the fucked up management we have in control right now.

Someone is going to for the picks. Might as well be us

 

[THE HCP]

Those picks will be garbage, and As much as I wouldn't mind him on our team where would he get minutes. If the purpose is to package him to bring back something really good for our team, then do it!

 

[RR7]

I'm all for adding future picks, if you do it on the hope that the pick could end up being a good pick. Getting Miami's first next season is as close to a guarantee as you can get that y ou aren't getting a lottery pick. A 2013-ish Boston pick? That might have value. Miami anytime in the next 3 years? No thanks.

 

[hasoos]

I'm all for adding future picks, if you do it on the hope that the pick could end up being a good pick. Getting Miami's first next season is as close to a guarantee as you can get that y ou aren't getting a lottery pick. A 2013-ish Boston pick? That might have value. Miami anytime in the next 3 years? No thanks.

Exactly. Anybody who takes Miami picks is a schmuck. They want to trade a bunch of nothing to enable them to do something. It's the oldest trick in the book. Hey, we will trade you our first rounders for the next 3 years for this. Then they kick ass, and all those guys you got, are near the equivelent of a 2nd round draft pick.

 

[Mediocre Man]

Exactly. Anybody who takes Miami picks is a schmuck. They want to trade a bunch of nothing to enable them to do something. It's the oldest trick in the book. Hey, we will trade you our first rounders for the next 3 years for this. Then they kick ass, and all those guys you got, are near the equivelent of a 2nd round draft pick.

Those picks could potentially be used in a package to move up? Or used to grab another player at the deadline. An asset is an asset. If you are getting someone like Beasley and the 30th pick next year, and the 20th pick in 2-3 years for somoene like Rudy, you do it.

 

[Tince]

Exactly. Anybody who takes Miami picks is a schmuck. They want to trade a bunch of nothing to enable them to do something. It's the oldest trick in the book. Hey, we will trade you our first rounders for the next 3 years for this. Then they kick ass, and all those guys you got, are near the equivelent of a 2nd round draft pick.

If you can make your team better, you do the deal. Who cares if it helps an Eastern Conference team? It's not like we're helping a division rival. I'd rather we get free picks, than Denver, Utah, or OKC. Not making a move that would help your team, just because you don't want to help another team, doesn't make sense.

 

[hasoos]

If you can make your team better, you do the deal. Who cares if it helps an Eastern Conference team? It's not like we're helping a division rival. I'd rather we get free picks, than Denver, Utah, or OKC. Not making a move that would help your team, just because you don't want to help another team, doesn't make sense.

Really that's your thinking? It never crossed your mind that we may end up facing that team in the finals in the next few years? If the Blazers are going to make it to a finals with this crew, it is going to happen in the next 3 to 4 years. There is a very good chance that the team we may face, will be the exact Miami team you are talking about. It has been well known over this last decade, that the Spurs, LA, Boston, and Cleveland have made direct moves to prevent their competition from obtaining a player/making a move which might hurt them. Dallas was in that mix for a while too. All this for a few draft picks which probably won't pan out to be jack shit because they are near 2nd rounders, which is a crapshoot to have success with. You don't do anything to help Miami, again, ever, until those 3 players are out of there. The only chance the rest of the league has IMO is to ensure that they don't pick up the free agents to fill out the rest of the team. You do that by not helping them, and making them play with guys like Travis Diener to fill in those other spots, and minimize their chance for success.

 

[Tince]

Really that's your thinking? It never crossed your mind that we may end up facing that team in the finals in the next few years? If the Blazers are going to make it to a finals with this crew, it is going to happen in the next 3 to 4 years. There is a very good chance that the team we may face, will be the exact Miami team you are talking about. It has been well known over this last decade, that the Spurs, LA, Boston, and Cleveland have made direct moves to prevent their competition from obtaining a player/making a move which might hurt them. Dallas was in that mix for a while too. All this for a few draft picks which probably won't pan out to be jack shit because they are near 2nd rounders, which is a crapshoot to have success with. You don't do anything to help Miami, again, ever, until those 3 players are out of there. The only chance the rest of the league has IMO is to ensure that they don't pick up the free agents to fill out the rest of the team. You do that by not helping them, and making them play with guys like Travis Diener to fill in those other spots, and minimize their chance for success.

It crossed my mind we may be playing that team in the finals. It's also crossed my mind that we haven't been in the finals for 18 years. Sure, a team could sit on its hands and never make a move that potentially helped another team, but I doubt they would make it to the finals with that strategy.

I think worrying about other teams more than your own is a recipe for failure.

 

[BoBoBREWSKI]

Clearly we needed another thread on Miami...

Just like we need another thread on Lebron and all the other trade rumors.