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Orion Bailey said:
okay so then take your angst out an all men who hires a prostitute, etc. take it out on single ball players having girls sent to thier rooms.
Are they all sexual assault offenders too?
Were gonna go round and round and not agree.
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If you walked up to a woman that you perceived to be a prostitute and started kissing her and grabbing her, that would be sexual assualt.

There's something that you don't seem to be grasping. It's called consent. We use consent in the 21st century.
 
RR7 said:
You go to this much effort to defend that piece of shit, and give him the benefit of the doubt? Thats gross
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This is it right here. This is the most confounding thing that I have ever seen in my life. I can't for the life of me figure out why so many people are so completely loyal to this guy. He has done NOTHING for anyone I know. I guess if we were millionaires we might love him, but he has done nothing for me. Not one thing.
 
GoBlazersGo said:
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Wearing my Timbers mask today, after an easy 3 points for the boys last night!
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Did you lose your eyes in some sort of internet nerd battle in your basement??
 
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Natebishop3 said:
This is it right here. This is the most confounding thing that I have ever seen in my life. I can't for the life of me figure out why so many people are so completely loyal to this guy. He has done NOTHING for anyone I know. I guess if we were millionaires we might love him, but he has done nothing for me. Not one thing.
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It's a weird case of having to "pwn the libs".

That's one of the biggest things that is a difference between conservatives and liberals/progressives.

hardcore conservatives will support their guy at their own expense, as long as it "pwns" someone else. Liberals will eat their own, because well, we're kind of disorganized and fractured, which leads us to a lot of infighting and confusion.

See: Bernie Bros and how fucking idiotic they are about the 2016 election.
 
GoBlazersGo said:
Yup, in my "baser"... how'd you guess!?

LOL, just trying to block what was visible of my ugly face... and, on my phone, I didn't have many options.
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I’ve seen you and you are no uglier than any of the other geeks on here. Please don’t be so tough on yourself.
 
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I learned a long time ago that some people, regardless of evidence to to contrary which completely disproves their stance, will still stubbornly deny the simple and obvious truth of an argument...sadly, in many cases, if someone tries hard enough they will vainly try to justify just about anything.
 
Natebishop3 said:
This is it right here. This is the most confounding thing that I have ever seen in my life. I can't for the life of me figure out why so many people are so completely loyal to this guy. He has done NOTHING for anyone I know. I guess if we were millionaires we might love him, but he has done nothing for me. Not one thing.
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I love asking Trump people for one thing Trump has done for them. It usually comes out to 401ks or something.
 
Natebishop3 said:
LOL ok dude.

Logically you're not reading the sentence. You clearly don't understand current and past tense.

"I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And, when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab em by the pussy. You can do anything"

This isn't written like a hypothetical. "I don't even wait." That's a clear statement of someone who HAS done it. Not that he could do it. I just start kissing them. I don't even wait. That's an admission of guilt. The second half is the hypothetical that you seem to be latching into.
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i see that. I get that. I didnt vote for him.

i believe in innocent until proven guilty. He has not been convicted. He can talk all the vulgar filth he wants and will go down as the worst pres ever. But saying grab them by the pussy is not sexual assault. Actually doing it is.
Saying I've done it is not... unless its true.
Yes i do believe its locker room talk and he has not forcibly grabbed a pussy of a woman who wasn't receptive.
When actual real proof.. court admissible evidences presents itself and/or a conviction of such acts, ill then believe him guilty.
Im not judge and jury. And neither are any of you. But you all can continue slammin me for sticking to facts and not letting my emotions deter my judgement.
 
Natebishop3 said:
You're fixated on one portion of a very long statement. Sexual assault includes kissing someone without consent.
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of course it does. And i think when he said he just kisses them it was in the same veign as just grab them by the pussy.
 
RR7 said:
You go to this much effort to defend that piece of shit, and give him the benefit of the doubt? Thats gross
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hats where your wrong. Im not defending him. Im maintaining a separation of facts vs opinions.

around here you are guilty until proven innocent and i just dont subscribe to that. Sorry i dont fit what you want me to be
 
Orion Bailey said:
i see that. I get that. I didnt vote for him.

i believe in innocent until proven guilty. He has not been convicted. He can talk all the vulgar filth he wants and will go down as the worst pres ever. But saying grab them by the pussy is not sexual assault. Actually doing it is.
Saying I've done it is not... unless its true.
Yes i do believe its locker room talk and he has not forcibly grabbed a pussy of a woman who wasn't receptive.
When actual real proof.. court admissible evidences presents itself and/or a conviction of such acts, ill then believe him guilty.
Im not judge and jury. And neither are any of you. But you all can continue slammin me for sticking to facts and not letting my emotions deter my judgement.
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Ok
 
Orion Bailey said:
i see that. I get that. I didnt vote for him.

i believe in innocent until proven guilty. He has not been convicted. He can talk all the vulgar filth he wants and will go down as the worst pres ever. But saying grab them by the pussy is not sexual assault. Actually doing it is.
Saying I've done it is not... unless its true.
Yes i do believe its locker room talk and he has not forcibly grabbed a pussy of a woman who wasn't receptive.
When actual real proof.. court admissible evidences presents itself and/or a conviction of such acts, ill then believe him guilty.
Im not judge and jury. And neither are any of you. But you all can continue slammin me for sticking to facts and not letting my emotions deter my judgement.
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his own statements + sexual assault accusations by nearly 30 women + pics with Epstein pointing at girls + Miss Universe pageants/going backstage “because he owned the pageant” = guilty. Sorry. But if we can only deduce guilt by video evidence then we are being naive. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and all that. Let’s be real. If someone believes Trump hasn’t assaulted/made unwanted advances/physically/sexually touched women in his 74 years they are dumb.
 
Orion Bailey said:
hats where your wrong. Im not defending him. Im maintaining a separation of facts vs opinions.

around here you are guilty until proven innocent and i just dont subscribe to that. Sorry i dont fit what you want me to be
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Not trying to get back into it with you. But:

Orion Bailey said:
of course it does. And i think when he said he just kisses them it was in the same veign as just grab them by the pussy.
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Not sure how that isn't your opinion on it either. Not accusing you of anything. I guess you could clarify if you want.
 
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lol...as per usual, most conspiracy theories turn out to be neither accurate nor compelling.
 
Orion Bailey said:
WTF? Are all of you blind? Lol. He didn't ask a question!!!!!! He made a statement thinking its hypocritical.

I swear this place truly has reading challenges or some people purposefully dismiss things that are right there in order to continue to tow on thier... whatevers.....
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Okay, when you're at odds with a lot of people then perhaps you should consider changing your position. Yes, it's a generalization but it's often true.
 
Orion Bailey said:
i see that. I get that. I didnt vote for him.

i believe in innocent until proven guilty. He has not been convicted. He can talk all the vulgar filth he wants and will go down as the worst pres ever. But saying grab them by the pussy is not sexual assault. Actually doing it is.
Saying I've done it is not... unless its true.
Yes i do believe its locker room talk and he has not forcibly grabbed a pussy of a woman who wasn't receptive.
When actual real proof.. court admissible evidences presents itself and/or a conviction of such acts, ill then believe him guilty.
Im not judge and jury. And neither are any of you. But you all can continue slammin me for sticking to facts and not letting my emotions deter my judgement.
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I don't believe a man would say those things if he hadn't done them. Maybe it's just the people I associate with. Of course I'm young only in my 70s so I guess I might still meet someone like this. Yes, it's a possibility.
 
theprunetang said:
Not trying to get back into it with you. But:




Not sure how that isn't your opinion on it either. Not accusing you of anything. I guess you could clarify if you want.
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It is my opinion. I never said I state my opinion as a fact. Opinions are able to be swayed... when in an open mind. However, as of now, It seems to me like locker room talk, false boasting, and generally just boys being boys.

Do not take this as I accept or think its okay. But I am not going to equate that as he is a sexual assaulter without some tangible proof. That's all. Until then, my opinion is its overblown locker room talk.

Now @calvin natt brought up 30 accusers and pics with jeff as other evidence to compound it quacking like a duck, blah blah blah.

But the thing is, and i'm not saying this is the case here, but it is a fact women have falsely accused people of this in spite. (this is where Crand can call me a misogynist like she did tortured, for saying the same thing, which is disgusting to do so), so without a conviction, he is still innocent of this. People have been trying to say he is a sexual offender for four years, and no conviction, no straight up proof. etc.

Regarding the picture with Jeffery, Clinton was with him too. Is he a sexual offender? Because they had connections and history doesn't mean the all engaged in the same things.

For example, The Clackamas mall shooter? I slept in his bed before he did what he did. I knew him. Poor boy. Despicable what he did, but the system failed him big time too. At any rate, It doesn't mean I did what he did or was involved. Guilt by association is a very dangerous thing.
 
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