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Orion Bailey said:
Chris....


I just said i can grab a pussy.
Now please show me the pussy i just made contact with and assaulted.
Come on man.
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Not talking about you and hypotheticals. He said he did and does it.
 
Orion Bailey said:
when did he admit to physically forcing himself on women who didnt want it?
Come on dude.

is it okay to only twist some words when it firs a narrative but stick to the facts when it doesnt?

he never said he physically forced himself on any woman who opposed the advance.
That would be attempted rape.
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"I just starting kissing them. I dont even wait."

That is forcing himself on women without their permission. He doesn't ask. He just does it. He said he did and does it. Thats fact.

They don't get a chance to oppose his advance.

He then further elucidates what else he does, grabbing them by the pussy.
 
Orion Bailey said:
did you check the link out i posted where the first parragraph says he tried to force massages?

that is not the same as saying stars can do anything.

You guys can paint a picture of him all you want like you do of me. But it still doesn't make it factual when the basis is not accurate.
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I'm not talking about the specific case. I'm talking about the preponderance of evidence where many women came forward accusing him of using his position of power to essentially extort sex out of them. That's exactly what Trump is saying. His status gives him the freedom to just come onto women, at least in his mind. He's saying he can do whatever he wants to women because he's a star.

What do YOU think Trump is saying in that quote?
 
Chris Craig said:
"I just starting kissing them. I dont even wait."

That is forcing himself on women without their permission. He doesn't ask. He just does it. He said he did and does it. Thats fact.

They don't get a chance to oppose his advance.
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context and figure of speech. I asked earlier if you think he literally walks up to strange beautiful women and starts kissing them??

i explained that already.
Going in circles now.

If anyone thinks what he said means he actually goes around kissing strange beautiful women on the lips when they dont want to be kissed or deny the advance...

i have a bridge to sell ya.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I'm not talking about the specific case. I'm talking about the preponderance of evidence where many women came forward accusing him of using his position of power to essentially extort sex out of them. That's exactly what Trump is saying. His status gives him the freedom to just come onto women, at least in his mind. He's saying he can do whatever he wants to women because he's a star.

What do YOU think Trump is saying in that quote?
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i think he is saying just that. Actions and statements are two different things.
As in the link i posted about harvey forcing massages.
Thats an act. Not a statement.
Huge difference.

i said previously stars get special treatment. Its true. What in what he said is not true. He didnt say he os a star and he grabs pussys he emsaid when you are a star. And its true.

i posted a out star athletes having girls sent to thier rooms.
Why are some of these things i bring up simply dismissed or ignored?
 
Orion Bailey said:
context and figure of speech. I asked earlier if you think he literally walks up to strange beautiful women and starts kissing them??

i explained that already.
Going in circles now.

If anyone thinks what he said means he actually goes around kissing strange beautiful women on the lips when they dont want to be kissed or deny the advance...

i have a bridge to sell ya.
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But that's literally what he's saying.... that he can just come onto any woman he wants because he's a star. How can you interpret it any other way?
 
Natebishop3 said:
But that's literally what he's saying.... that he can just come onto any woman he wants because he's a star. How can you interpret it any other way?
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can and does are not the same thing. He dodnt say he grabs pussies he said you can....


There is a huge difference there.
For the third time i ask. Is he wrong? Do stars bot get special treatment? Funny how no one will answer this....
 
Orion Bailey said:
context and figure of speech. I asked earlier if you think he literally walks up to strange beautiful women and starts kissing them??

i explained that already.
Going in circles now.

If anyone thinks what he said means he actually goes around kissing strange beautiful women on the lips when they dont want to be kissed or deny the advance...

i have a bridge to sell ya.
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He has done this. Several women have accused him of such. I wouldnt be surprised if there is a video kissing women.
 
Chris Craig said:
He has done this. Several women have accused him of such. I wouldnt be surprised if there is a video kissing women.
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accusations are not convictions.

So if i get a few females to go public and say you grabbed their pussy does that mean you did it?
 
Orion Bailey said:
can and does are not the same thing. He dodnt say he grabs pussies he said you can....


There is a huge difference there.
For the third time i ask. Is he wrong? Do stars bot get special treatment? Funny how no one will answer this....
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He said, I just start kissing them. I dont even ask.

He saying he does it, not that he can.
 
Orion Bailey said:
can and does are not the same thing. He dodnt say he grabs pussies he said you can....


There is a huge difference there.
For the third time i ask. Is he wrong? Do stars bot get special treatment? Funny how no one will answer this....
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I did answer this. Powerful men like Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump have been abusing this for thousands of years.

It's not special treatment. It's abusing their position of power to extort sex and sexual favors out of women. That's not special treatment. That's sexual assault.
 
Orion Bailey said:
can and does are not the same thing. He dodnt say he grabs pussies he said you can....


There is a huge difference there.
For the third time i ask. Is he wrong? Do stars bot get special treatment? Funny how no one will answer this....
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Stars don't get special treatment anymore. If they do that shit, they are done.
 
Natebishop3 said:
I did answer this. Powerful men like Harvey Weinstein and Donald Trump have been abusing this for thousands of years.

It's not special treatment. It's abusing their position of power to extort sex and sexual favors out of women. That's not special treatment. That's sexual assault.
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okay so then take your angst out an all men who hires a prostitute, etc. take it out on single ball players having girls sent to thier rooms.
Are they all sexual assault offenders too?
Were gonna go round and round and not agree.
 
Orion Bailey said:
okay so then take your angst out an all men who hires a prostitute, etc. take it out on single ball players having girls sent to thier rooms.
Are they all sexual assault offenders too?
Were gonna go round and round and not agree.
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They are if the woman does not consent
 
Chris Craig said:
Trump said he did and he can.
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Rrriiiggght.

i kiss beautiful women. I cant help it. And i can do it because im a big guy and am intimidating.

now please show me the woman or women i kissed?

words are not actions even if the words say an action happened.

Reality is reality and conjecture is conjecture.
 
Orion Bailey said:
ever heard of figure of speech????


When are you going to answer the question a out stars getting special treatment?
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It was not a figure of speech. It was admission of past action.

I already answered it
 
Tyrant of Ants said:
Call me a snowflake then, but I'm not cool with anyone, let alone the President, bragging about sexual assault. You couldn't pay me enough to look the other way if I saw someone sexually being assaulted. So you can take your "economic stances" and stuff it.
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Agree 125%!
Fuck economics, I don’t want anybody grabbing my daughters pussy! Amazing how his supporters have the ability to sweep things under the rug!
 
Orion Bailey said:
i can kill someone.
Thats a statement of an act too. Doesnt mean i do it......

logic.
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LOL ok dude.

Logically you're not reading the sentence. You clearly don't understand current and past tense.

"I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And, when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything. Grab em by the pussy. You can do anything"

This isn't written like a hypothetical. "I don't even wait." That's a clear statement of someone who HAS done it. Not that he could do it. I just start kissing them. I don't even wait. That's an admission of guilt. The second half is the hypothetical that you seem to be latching into.
 
Orion Bailey said:
Rrriiiggght.

i kiss beautiful women. I cant help it. And i can do it because im a big guy and am intimidating.

now please show me the woman or women i kissed?

words are not actions even if the words say an action happened.

Reality is reality and conjecture is conjecture.
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You don't though. I mean other than your wife. An even if you were powerful like Trump, your not that kind of dude.

He told us what his actions were and all. He basically said I do this. He said I'm famous I can do this. I can get away with it. I kiss women without consent. get to do other things to like grab them by the pussy. That was the context of his words.

Do you think If I went to the police station and told the cops I kissed women without consent and grabbed them by the pussy, that I would be able to walk out?
 
Trump isn't in court for hiring a prostitute...he's on record paying those types off....he's in court for grabbing women and kissing and groping them...one the wife of his friend at a Wimbledon match...another at a fundraiser at Mar Lago.....both women married and not consensual...there are more...the only round a round about it would be the attempt to cast reasonable doubt around Donald Trump and his conduct...it's a simple conversation....Trump lies....that puts everything he says in question, these women though are not proven compulsive liars...nor connected to each other with an agenda...
 
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