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sheed30 said:
LOL, Blazers fans being Blazers fans. The guy is looking good so far, short sample size though and not against NBA level.

Can we not get too high or too low too soon? Some of you are getting too giddy over summer league play.

Let's not all forget even Qyntel Woods has tore up summer league before....let that sink in...

You guys love to big a guy up too soon in here only to enjoy tearing them back down if they don't meet your high expectations quickly (lots did that with Ant and now look at you guys)
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By all accounts, Qyntel looked primed for a breakout year until he got busted for the dogs…
 
Walker is a strong argument for why teams should not be casual about the value of 2nd round picks. I know Olshey had good success with the 2nd's he actually kept and used, but he seemed over-willing to just toss them away for minimal gain

in the Dame era, these guys were 2nd round picks:

Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Quincy Acy, Khris Middleton, Will Barton, Mike Scott, Allen Crabbe, Mike Muscala, Raul Neto, James Ennis III
K.J. McDaniels, Joe Harris, Spencer Dinwiddie, Jerami Grant, Nikola Jokić, Dwight Powell, Jordan Clarkson, Cedi Osman, Montrezl Harrell
Willy Hernangómez, Richaun Holmes, Josh Richardson, Pat Connaughton, Norman Powell, Ivica Zubac, Malcolm Brogdon, Georges Niang
Frank Jackson, Thomas Bryant, Isaiah Hartenstein, Dillon Brooks, Monte Morris, Jalen Brunson, Devonte' Graham, Gary Trent Jr.
Jarred Vanderbilt, Bruce Brown, Hamidou Diallo, De'Anthony Melton, Shake Milton, Nic Claxton, Cody Martin, Daniel Gafford, Eric Paschall
Isaiah Roby, Talen Horton-Tucker, Terance Mann, Jalen McDaniels, Théo Maledon, Xavier Tillman Sr., Jordan Nwora, Kenyon Martin Jr.
Herbert Jones, Ayo Dosunmu, Isaiah Livers, Brandon Boston Jr., Aaron Wiggins

the level of talent on that list runs from low-rotation-->role-player-->solid-rotation-->provisional-starter-->solid-starter-->all-star-->MVP. Obviously, that's a small minority of the 300 second round picks in a decade. That list is only 19% of the names taken. A real high bust factor in the 2nd round; and a sizable sample of that 19% are role-players, at best.

but still, a significant part of building a winner is luck...it's that simple. Golden State and Denver got a century's worth of luck with Draymond and Jokic. But you can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.
 
BlazerBender said:
And its a pack of dogs! Not some lonely wondering mutt.

Cue @SlyPokerDog
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sheed30 said:
Let's not all forget even Qyntel Woods has tore up summer league before....let that sink in...
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Yeah, I was there for that. He pretty much went 1 on 5 every time down the court. He was unstoppable .....but zero team ball.
I felt bad for him when the whole Dog Fighting thing occurred. (Not that I condone it) He was waived shortly after.

This is completely different. And I don't think anyone is saying Walker is going to be a star. Just that they are excited that he can contribute to a position of need.
Walker seems to have a high BBQ. Woods did not.
 
Top 4 PERs all time in summer league for Portland

1. Nolan Smith
2. Brandon Roy
3. Jabari Walker
4. Damian Lillard

lets hope Walker is more 2/4 than 1. Tbf though, Nolan only played two games and wasn’t a rookie.
 
Scalma said:
Top 4 PERs all time in summer league for Portland

1. Nolan Smith
2. Brandon Roy
3. Jabari Walker
4. Damian Lillard

lets hope Walker is more 2/4 than 1. Tbf though, Nolan only played two games and wasn’t a rookie.
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Just out of curiosity…. Was that Nolan’s rookie year? Cuz 2-4 were, so just thought I’d ask.
 
Scalma said:
Top 4 PERs all time in summer league for Portland

1. Nolan Smith
2. Brandon Roy
3. Jabari Walker
4. Damian Lillard

lets hope Walker is more 2/4 than 1. Tbf though, Nolan only played two games and wasn’t a rookie.
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wow, great stat. If you take out Nolan to only count rookies too…um…did we just draft an all star?
 
Scalma said:
It was his second year and he only played in two games, so we may as well take him off the list. Just didn't want someone fact checking it and seeing me leave the scrub off lol
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All good. Was just asking cuz my mind would have been blown if he was a rook.
 
I did not know this was the injury:

Aron Baynes, who suffered a spinal cord injury after a freak fall while playing for the Australian national team in the Tokyo Olympics last summer, has resumed his career and will be working out for NBA teams Friday in Las Vegas.Jul 7, 2022
 
Pinwheel1 said:
I did not know this was the injury:

Aron Baynes, who suffered a spinal cord injury after a freak fall while playing for the Australian national team in the Tokyo Olympics last summer, has resumed his career and will be working out for NBA teams Friday in Las Vegas.Jul 7, 2022
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Yeah I remember reading a piece on it. He was almost paralyzed and couldn't walk.
 
wizenheimer said:
Walker is a strong argument for why teams should not be casual about the value of 2nd round picks. I know Olshey had good success with the 2nd's he actually kept and used, but he seemed over-willing to just toss them away for minimal gain

in the Dame era, these guys were 2nd round picks:

Jae Crowder, Draymond Green, Quincy Acy, Khris Middleton, Will Barton, Mike Scott, Allen Crabbe, Mike Muscala, Raul Neto, James Ennis III
K.J. McDaniels, Joe Harris, Spencer Dinwiddie, Jerami Grant, Nikola Jokić, Dwight Powell, Jordan Clarkson, Cedi Osman, Montrezl Harrell
Willy Hernangómez, Richaun Holmes, Josh Richardson, Pat Connaughton, Norman Powell, Ivica Zubac, Malcolm Brogdon, Georges Niang
Frank Jackson, Thomas Bryant, Isaiah Hartenstein, Dillon Brooks, Monte Morris, Jalen Brunson, Devonte' Graham, Gary Trent Jr.
Jarred Vanderbilt, Bruce Brown, Hamidou Diallo, De'Anthony Melton, Shake Milton, Nic Claxton, Cody Martin, Daniel Gafford, Eric Paschall
Isaiah Roby, Talen Horton-Tucker, Terance Mann, Jalen McDaniels, Théo Maledon, Xavier Tillman Sr., Jordan Nwora, Kenyon Martin Jr.
Herbert Jones, Ayo Dosunmu, Isaiah Livers, Brandon Boston Jr., Aaron Wiggins

the level of talent on that list runs from low-rotation-->role-player-->solid-rotation-->provisional-starter-->solid-starter-->all-star-->MVP. Obviously, that's a small minority of the 300 second round picks in a decade. That list is only 19% of the names taken. A real high bust factor in the 2nd round; and a sizable sample of that 19% are role-players, at best.

but still, a significant part of building a winner is luck...it's that simple. Golden State and Denver got a century's worth of luck with Draymond and Jokic. But you can't win the lottery if you don't buy a ticket.
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When Paul Allen was still running the team, he didn’t mind paying a little bit of cash for a 2nd rounder.
 
Pinwheel1 said:
Yeah, I was there for that. He pretty much went 1 on 5 every time down the court. He was unstoppable .....but zero team ball.
I felt bad for him when the whole Dog Fighting thing occurred. (Not that I condone it) He was waived shortly after.

This is completely different. And I don't think anyone is saying Walker is going to be a star. Just that they are excited that he can contribute to a position of need.
Walker seems to have a high BBQ. Woods did not.
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On the spectrum of being prepared by others for the NBA and maturity level, Woods and Walker are on opposite ends of the spectrum.
 
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