Politics Jan 6th hearings, the big reveal!

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My favorite moronic argument has been "there's no cross examination, no other points of view"...

1) these aren't political enemies coming forth, they are his own people.

2) They had opportunities to put republicans up there to do that cross examination, but they were all pulled from it. You can't say you didn't have a chance to defend when you, the republicans, took away all the people off the committee that would do just that.

3) this whole thing is indefensible.
 
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'I don't want to say the election is over': Trump says 'yesterday is a hard word for me,' SLAMS the podium and refuses to say he lost in outtakes of January 7 speech shared at committee hearing
  • The January 6 House select committee shared outtakes of an address former President Donald Trump made to the nation on January 7
  • 'I don't want to say the election is over,' Trump says in one of the clips. 'I just want to say Congress has certified the results without saying the election is over'
  • The former commander-in-chief is shown getting tongue-tied, saying at one point, 'Yesterday is a hard word for me'
  • The outtakes were part of new exhibits shared with the public by the Democrat-led House select committee on January 6
  • The committee held its final hearing of the summer in primetime Thursday night
  • The hearing was dedicated to the 187 minutes between Trump's Ellipse speech and when the president finally called off the Capitol attack
  • Witnesses told the committee that Trump spent the time in the White House dining room, watching the assault play out on Fox News while calling senators
The January 6 House select committee shared outtakes of an address former President Donald Trump made to the nation on January 7, still unable to publicly say he lost the election.

'I don't want to say the election is over,' Trump says in one of the clips. 'I just want to say Congress has certified the results without saying the election is over.'

The former commander-in-chief is shown getting tongue-tied.

'Yesterday is a hard word for me,' he says at one point, with daughter Ivanka Trump heard outside the frame recommending he remove it.

He also struggles to read the teleprompter.

'I can't see it very well,' he complains.

He straightens his suit jacket and eventually makes his three-minute address.

'My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote,' he tells the camera.

The outtakes were part of new exhibits shared with the public by the Democrat-led House select committee on January 6, which held its final hearing of the summer in primetime Thursday night.

The committee also showed an image of Trump standing in the Oval Office after the Ellipse rally on January 6 - before moving into the White House dining room where he would spend hours refusing to call off the attack.

Thursday night's primetime hearing was dedicated to the 187 minutes between Trump wrapping up his remarks on the Ellipse - where he goaded supporters to match on the Capitol - until his tepid video statement asking them to go home.

Committee members noted how there were no photos of Trump as he sat watching Fox News Channel in the White House dining room for more than three hours, nor were there entries on an official call log of White House diary.

What witnesses did tell committee members was that White House officials, including Ivanka Trump and Counsel Pat Cipollone, urged the president to make a statement to supporters to stop the attack.

Inside the Capitol, members of Vice President Mike Pence's security detail were so worried about the escalating violence that they were making 'personal call's to 'say goodbye' to their families because they 'feared for their lives,' according to an unnamed official whose identity the committee kept secret.

'The members of the VP detail at this time were starting to fear for their own lives,' the official said. 'There was a lot of yelling, a lot of very personal calls over the radio. It was disturbing, I don't like talking about it.'

'There were calls to say goodbye to family members, so on and so forth ... for whatever the reason was on the ground, the VP detail thought this was going to get very ugly,' the official continued.

The committee's witness, whose voice was masked, couldn't say for certain what the VP's detail was experiencing, but the tenor of their conversation indicated things were 'going to a whole other level soon.'

'The mob was accomplishing President Trump's purpose so of course he didn't intervene,' said committee member, Republican Rep. Adam Kinzinger. 'President Trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the Ellipse and telling the mob to go home - he chose not to act.'

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11038017/I-dont-want-say-election-Trump-says-outtakes.html
 
Lock all these motherfuckers up! All of them..! Every pleading the 5th fucking coward and especially that insane egomaniac that led the charge. I'm fucking over these assholes...they all need to do hard time and be publicly ridiculed for the rest of their lives.
 
"yesterday is a hard word for me"

Can't read a teleprompter.

Everything they go after for other people they do themselves.

He is the biggest joke in the world.
 
The fact that people worship them is hilarious, but also incredibly sad and scary.

Most people I know that support Dems know that the party sucks. They just say more of the right things so we hold out hope one day they actually will do the right things. Many times we end up disappointed. But, when the right spouts off what they do, and support a pos like Trump, we don't really have an alternative.

I only know a few people who are dyed in the wool Democrats, but mostly the far left hates them, the middle left hates them, and the moderates dislike them.

The majority of people who identify as independent/liberal/progressive don't idol worship the way that the right does. Most of them/us are almost always let down and disappointed in the D's, because they're spineless shit stains who don't do anything that they say they will.

And you're right, the alternative to it is basically like saying the shoes I'm wearing are too small they suck vs cut off your foot, you fucking baby.
 
And you're right, the alternative to it is basically like saying the shoes I'm wearing are too small they suck vs shoot off your foot, you fucking baby.

FTFY. Got to exercise those 2nd amendment rights.

barfo
 
Both counts...and now Clark is next. Hopefully they max the sentences to make these 5th pleaders shake in their shorts.
The max sentence is $1000 fine and up to 12 months in jail per count. Will be interesting to see what happens next to him.
 
Now the right is saying Bannon's conviction is a win for MAGA because it proves the court is corrupt.
 
They never bring anything to refute any argument towards them (Trump, Bannon, etc) just say "This bad. They good."

Bannon didnt adhere to a subpoena. "COURT IS CORRUPT". Which is funny, because the only way the court is corrupt is if they DONT prosecute those who dont adhere to a subpoena.

I dont understand how people got so brainwashed to just lose the ability to comprehend the most basic of things. Its baffling.
 
They never bring anything to refute any argument towards them (Trump, Bannon, etc) just say "This bad. They good."

Bannon didnt adhere to a subpoena. "COURT IS CORRUPT". Which is funny, because the only way the court is corrupt is if they DONT prosecute those who dont adhere to a subpoena.

I dont understand how people got so brainwashed to just lose the ability to comprehend the most basic of things. Its baffling.
Is the court pressing charges on everybody who has failed to appear or failed to cooperate? Seems like there has been a lot of that going on the last few years.

That's the only argument I can see them making.

"Why Bannon, but not (insert dem)?"
 
Which Democrat ignored a subpoena?
Don't know of any, but it just seems like failing to show up when requested has been a thing for a few years. That's the only way I could see this argument having any merit.

So I'm asking if there are any Dems they could point a finger at. I expect probably not, but I don't know.
 
Not as far as I know. Hillary Clinton spent 13 hours answering questions from Benghazi committee even though Kevin McCarthy openly admitted the purpose was to bring down her poll numbers.
 
Is the court pressing charges on everybody who has failed to appear or failed to cooperate? Seems like there has been a lot of that going on the last few years.

That's the only argument I can see them making.

"Why Bannon, but not (insert dem)?"

But what I said would still hold true. The only way the court is corrupt is because they don't do it to everyone. So is the court corrupt because of that or because it's "only Bannon"... You can't have it both ways. And you damn well know that if it favors the viewpoint of common sense, they'd be against it. So they lose no matter what ;)
 
But what I said would still hold true. The only way the court is corrupt is because they don't do it to everyone. So is the court corrupt because of that or because it's "only Bannon"... You can't have it both ways. And you damn well know that if it favors the viewpoint of common sense, they'd be against it. So they lose no matter what ;)
For sure. Not arguing against you, just curious if they can argue inconsistencies...
 
Also anyone find it really interesting that Trump has never said what he was doing during those 187 minutes? Ever. If he wanted to speak about it and refute it (though he has no benefit of the doubt with anyone not indoctrinated into his cult) he could. But that time came and passed. For each hearing. And he's only disparaged the witnesses, said it's a witch hunt and provided nothing to refute it.

It's sad people still believe him. There's literally zero proof of anything to the contrary to what's been presented.
 
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