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jonnyboy said:
The result was the same. Whatever intent you apply to the situation doesn’t change the end result. You can make conspiracy claims about what the intent was on January 6, or even any of the riots this summer. What matters is what actually happened, not whatever people think could have maybe happened. Those dipshits at the capital looked more surprised than anyone that they actually made it into the chambers. They didn’t even know what to do once they got in there. They were taking selfies and sitting at the principals desk like 7th graders. It wasn’t a militaristic planned takeover, it was a bunch of morons who broke in and didn’t even know what to do once they got there. Punishment needs to be handed out over the injured and dead and the destruction of property, not over whatever grand conspiracy people are pretending these idiots concocted.
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The “intent” is everything!
 
HailBlazers said:
Just like the anarchist at the summer protests their intent doesn't represent the majority.
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In this case the intent is on camera and just to start 170 were considered to be using intent....more to come...there's no comparing racial profiling protests in DC to a coup on democracy at Capitol Hill..false equivilancy...BLM protestors were tear gassed and shot with rubber bullets without breaking into anything or causing any disturbance...that's white privilege compared to the response on Capitol Hill from the Trump crowd...one protest was legal...one was an act of sedition. The attack on the Capitol included state legislators, policemen from Seattle and New York, military professionals, organized white supremacy groups. I'm not watering down the difference here...americans killed a cop in the name of Donald Trump with a fire hydrant...this was organized. Not mob hysteria but an actual planned attack...directions to offices were given by megaphone...the intent was stop the steal......BLM intent was stop killing us
 
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THE HCP said:
What do you mean sir?
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That the violent minority doesn't represent the majorities viewpoint. The same way that scummy people downtown portland (tweakers and provocateurs) who fueled destruction late at night after peaceful protests don't get to represent the BLM movement. Filth of the earth white supremacists don't represent the larger population of conservatives in this country that condemn violence but simply wanted real concerns of election issues to be addressed.
 
HailBlazers said:
That the violent minority doesn't represent the majorities viewpoint. The same way that scummy people downtown portland (tweakers and provocateurs) who fueled destruction late at night after peaceful protests don't get to represent the BLM movement. Filth of the earth white supremacists don't represent the larger population of conservatives in this country that condemn violence but simply wanted real concerns of election issues to be addressed.
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unfortunately white supremacists have been rallying behind Trump and MAGA for years now...they are organized and well armed....these aren't hippies with spray cans...there's quite a clear distinction between the conservatives in America and the MAGA fanatics who are propping up false lies about conspiracy and threatening to kill elected officials...10 Republican conservatives came out passionately to impeach Trump for being a traitor....10 is hardly a majority but they get my respect...so does the Lincoln Party for having the balls to address the truth....not all conservatives are volatile racists but the ones that are are damned loud and really visible right now. The GOP should be ashamed of the conduct of the last presidency. This could have all been avoided with adult leadership
 
HailBlazers said:
That the violent minority doesn't represent the majorities viewpoint. The same way that scummy people downtown portland (tweakers and provocateurs) who fueled destruction late at night after peaceful protests don't get to represent the BLM movement. Filth of the earth white supremacists don't represent the larger population of conservatives in this country that condemn violence but simply wanted real concerns of election issues to be addressed.
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You misspelled "believed obvious anti-democracy lies".

barfo
 
HailBlazers said:
That the violent minority doesn't represent the majorities viewpoint. The same way that scummy people downtown portland (tweakers and provocateurs) who fueled destruction late at night after peaceful protests don't get to represent the BLM movement. Filth of the earth white supremacists don't represent the larger population of conservatives in this country that condemn violence but simply wanted real concerns of election issues to be addressed.
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This is what I don't understand. We went through weeks and weeks of addressing concerns and absolutely nothing was found. It's too bad that people don't want to accept that but the concerns have been addressed. I doubt going 1-61 again in court cases would persuade these people. Nothing is going to satisfy them at this point.

On the other hand, there's well documented and persistent evidence of bias against blacks when it comes to law enforcement.
 
andalusian said:
And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my brothers, but not on the knees, because everyone knows they are the strongest.
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you forgot..."Hey Ringo, tell your girlfriend to shut the fuck up!"
 
Propagandist said:
This is an incredibly naive and dangerous viewpoint.
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Ugh...just stop with the hysterical boogeyman bullshit. Not every opinion you disagree with is “dangerous”. You could’ve at least attempted to explain why. That’s the point though, there’s no explanation to that fear mongering statement.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
Large bitcoin payments to right-wing activists a month before Capitol riot linked to foreign account
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French computer programmer, 35, dies in suspected suicide as it's revealed he donated more than $500,000 in Bitcoin to far-right activists involved in MAGA riot including one pictured on steps of the Capitol who got $250,000
  • A French computer programmer, 35, allegedly transfered more than $500,000 in Bitcoin to far-right activists on December 8
  • Some of the groups that received the donations took part in the U.S. Captiol riot on January 6
  • The transactions were discovered by Chainalysis, who in a report revealed that far-right internet influencer Nick Fuentes received half the transactions
  • Fuentes was at the earlier rally but claimed he was not part of the riot
  • The report adds the programmer posted what appears to be a suicide note on his personal blog the day after the transactions
  • He wrote he wanted to leave his wealth to 'certain causes and people' as he lamented 'unprecedented civil liberties violations' caused by COVID-19 and BLM
  • It comes as federal investigators explore possible 'coordination or planning' ahead of the riot and examine financial transactions and cellphone records
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9152179/500K-Bitcoin-sent-France-US-far-right-groups.html
 
SlyPokerDog said:
French computer programmer, 35, dies in suspected suicide as it's revealed he donated more than $500,000 in Bitcoin to far-right activists involved in MAGA riot including one pictured on steps of the Capitol who got $250,000
  • A French computer programmer, 35, allegedly transfered more than $500,000 in Bitcoin to far-right activists on December 8
  • Some of the groups that received the donations took part in the U.S. Captiol riot on January 6
  • The transactions were discovered by Chainalysis, who in a report revealed that far-right internet influencer Nick Fuentes received half the transactions
  • Fuentes was at the earlier rally but claimed he was not part of the riot
  • The report adds the programmer posted what appears to be a suicide note on his personal blog the day after the transactions
  • He wrote he wanted to leave his wealth to 'certain causes and people' as he lamented 'unprecedented civil liberties violations' caused by COVID-19 and BLM
  • It comes as federal investigators explore possible 'coordination or planning' ahead of the riot and examine financial transactions and cellphone records
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9152179/500K-Bitcoin-sent-France-US-far-right-groups.html
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"Suicide"
 
HailBlazers said:
That the violent minority doesn't represent the majorities viewpoint. The same way that scummy people downtown portland (tweakers and provocateurs) who fueled destruction late at night after peaceful protests don't get to represent the BLM movement. Filth of the earth white supremacists don't represent the larger population of conservatives in this country that condemn violence but simply wanted real concerns of election issues to be addressed.
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how can real concerns be based upon lies? That's not real, that's delusion

The R's have been looking and searching and digging for election fraud for decades and they haven't found it. Trump appointed a commission headed by Kris Kobach in 2017 and they looked hard for 2 years and didn't find any. The commission disbanded without releasing a report. Bill Barr and the trump-biased DOJ searched desperately for election fraud both before and after the election and didn't find a drop. Trump's lawyers were all over the place during voting, both early and election day and didn't find any fraud.

all the claims of fraud by the R's were either debunked or to laughable to prove. Lawsuits were filed all over the place about fraud and were dismissed or tossed out with prejudice. Not one bit of evidence has been proven except for a few isolated cases and those have favored trump

the claims of fraud are lies, but they are lies the R's have used to generate decades of voter suppression. If you actually cared about voting integrity you'd be looking at voting suppression and gerry-mandering. You'd be looking at a voting system that creates minority rule. All that is happening in the US, and the cover has been the big lie of voting fraud
 
jonnyboy said:
It’s the same shit. The left just added buzzwords like ‘coup’ and ‘insurrection’ to riots that weren’t theirs to spice them up. Cities burned and people died in both cases. Your riots aren’t holier than any others. It’s just a bunch of hopeless people fucking shit up. It doesn’t matter if it was in DC or every other city.
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Did they, in the summer, break into a federal building WITH guns, hit cops with fire extinguishers, flags, their own batons?

Did they, in the summer, bring zip ties for the purpose of taking senators hostage?

Did they, in the summer, fight to overturn an election? No, they fought for human rights in the summer.

Did they, in the summer, just get let in to the federal buildings at the planning of congressmen and blessing of the guy in the white house?

There is no equivalent to the two. When it happened in the summer, that guy in the white house sent in reinforcements immediatetly.. they flashbanged and smoked off and barricaded everything.. because of what? People fighting for human rights. When the insurrection happened right across the street, it took 3 hours before any additional help arrived.

There is no comparison to the orchestrated attempt at overtaking a government, to people fighting for basic human rights and equity. Its shameful its even being compared.
 
13 police officers suspected of involvement in the Jan 6th attack....I mentioned this in the other thread but it proves this was a last gasp attempt to prop up White Supremacy after all.
 
SlyPokerDog said:
"Suicide"
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Remember all those liberals who converged on DC intent on killing Trump and other lawmakers? I don't, but I'm sure it happened because I've been assured by various "true neutrals" that both sides are identical.
 
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