Jerami Grant, yay or nay? (1 Viewer)

[illmatic99]

I am not in favor of bringing him in if he is expecting that kind of a payday for his net contribution.

Screams overpaid, over-entitled role player with delusions of grandeur.

If we're getting him for Bledsoe and scraps like NAW or Keon in some sorta multi-deal machination... sure. I'd kick the tires on Grant then. But I don't even wanna touch our TPE for Grant, much less that NO lotto pick.

 

[BigGameDamian]

I would trade Nassir little for Jeremi Grant.
We use our other assets like the draft picks to get a really good power forward/ center.
Imagine a lineup of Lillard, Hart, Jeremy Grant, really good center forward, Nurkic?

Grant also isn’t as injury prone as Little.

 

[B-Roy]

If we're getting him for Bledsoe and scraps like NAW or Keon in some sorta multi-deal machination... sure. I'd kick the tires on Grant then. But I don't even wanna touch our TPE for Grant, much less that NO lotto pick.

Not that you could, but IF you could just get him for the TPE, you should do it. You think we could possibly get a better player for free or in FA?

 

[SharpesTriumph]

If the team somehow won the play in, there would be no benefit for him not to play.

Winning the playin.... did you see the trades we have made?

 

[illmatic99]

Not that you could, but IF you could just get him for the TPE, you should do it. You think we could possibly get a better player for free or in FA?

It wouldn't just be the TPE obviously. It would be that plus assets for Grant. That TPE is near the top of the list of our assets.

I've been looking over player contracts to see who could slot into it. Here are some names that are better than Grant in my estimation:

Harrison Barnes, 20.2 mil
Randle, 19.8 mil - obviously need to add assets here in case NY wants to dump him.
Bojan Bogdanovic - 18.7 mil
Turner - 18 mil
Bogdan Bogdanovic - 18 mil
Isaac - 18 mil. He's kind of a bad fit in the progressive PNW, but a risk possibly worth taking.
Anunoby - 16 mil, I'd include the NO pick for him.
Smart - 14 mil, Boston would never do it unfortunately.

 

[boredinsalem]

It wouldn't just be the TPE obviously. It would be that plus assets for Grant. That TPE is near the top of the list of our assets.

I've been looking over player contracts to see who could slot into it. Here are some names that are better than Grant in my estimation:

Harrison Barnes, 20.2 mil
Randle, 19.8 mil - obviously need to add assets here in case NY wants to dump him.
Bojan Bogdanovic - 18.7 mil
Turner - 18 mil
Bogdan Bogdanovic - 18 mil
Issac - 18 mil. He's kind of a bad fit in the progressive PNW, but a risk possibly worth taking.
Anunoby - 16 mil, I'd include the NO pick for him.
Smart - 14.3 mil, Boston would never do it unfortunately.

I think Smart would be a great target for our trade exemption and some draft compensation this summer. Not sure what his value is, but if Boston flames out again they will surely want to try something new, and a trade exemption would allow them to pursue whoever they want.

This seems like a Chauncey-style team to me, and I think the length and athleticism would complement Dame well. Plus, you Little, Hart, and Smart are all amazing rebounders for their size, which would offset Grant's issues in that department.

Lillard/Smart
Simons/Smart/Keon
Little/Hart
Grant/Hart
Nurkic/?

 

[Pinwheel1]

Grant also isn’t as injury prone as Little.

I am not too concerned with the type of injuries Little has had. No major knee or foot problems.
I value Nas more than Grant.

I am more concerned with Grant's extension demands.
But other than that I would love to have him. If Roco can play PF then Grant can as well. Basically the same size. (Grant slightly longer)

 

[SharpesTriumph]

and he's expecting a 4 yr, 112 mil extension this summer. Multiple sources have reported this, and it's so specific that you just have to believe it. We just literally dumped all our contracts to add supposed cap flexibility. Giving Grant that kinda contract would put us right back where we were before, with a less talented roster.

That is basically what I expect the result to be if we now try and build around Dame.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Grant plays the same position as Nassir Little. I would instead trade Nassir Little for Grant, and keep all our other assets. We'd have Simons, and draft picks and whatever else we have to trade for a very good power forward.
To me it makes no sense to have Grant or Nassir Little play out of position when we are re-constructing a roster. We already went through that BS with Norman Powell.

Grant and Little can swing between the 3-4 positions with a bit guarding SG's that I don't think its really as much of an issue. They are both defenders as well.

The issue with multiple 6'3" guards is what to do with them on defense.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

If we're getting him for Bledsoe and scraps like NAW or Keon in some sorta multi-deal machination... sure. I'd kick the tires on Grant then. But I don't even wanna touch our TPE for Grant, much less that NO lotto pick.

TPE I would do because the vast majority of the time these expire or are worth very little. Yes they can add a player for nothing in theory, but what actual rotational players are acquired with one? Its like the RLEC golden ticket. Maybe you value it higher than me.

I still think Grant on an expiring contract could be flipped to a team with cap space in the summer, so we could easily undo the trade if it didn't work out or we preferred a different player.

 

[illmatic99]

I still think Grant on an expiring contract could be flipped to a team with cap space in the summer, so we could easily undo the trade if it didn't work out or we preferred a different player.

This is what we were saying about Roco

 

[SharpesTriumph]

It wouldn't just be the TPE obviously. It would be that plus assets for Grant. That TPE is near the top of the list of our assets.

I've been looking over player contracts to see who could slot into it. Here are some names that are better than Grant in my estimation:

Harrison Barnes, 20.2 mil
Randle, 19.8 mil - obviously need to add assets here in case NY wants to dump him.
Bojan Bogdanovic - 18.7 mil
Turner - 18 mil
Bogdan Bogdanovic - 18 mil
Isaac - 18 mil. He's kind of a bad fit in the progressive PNW, but a risk possibly worth taking.
Anunoby - 16 mil, I'd include the NO pick for him.
Smart - 14 mil, Boston would never do it unfortunately.

I very much doubt any of these guys are available for the TPE. So we have to send them other assets, assets which may have contracts, and at that point we can just do a trade of players with the team.

Yes the TPE is a tool that in theory could bring talent. But any difference making trade we agree on with another team, will have assets going back and forth, and likely has a way to be constructed without the TPE.

 

[Strenuus]

"Lillard is expected to miss six-to-eight weeks following surgery. On Saturday, Jan. 22, Lillard spoke with the media for the first time since undergoing surgery, saying he's "not in a rush" to return and more discussions will be had once he's re-evaluated following the six-to-eight-week timeline."

Was this to refute who you replied to? Because dame said he ain't coming back if we going for a pick.

And we know that answer.

 

[SharpesTriumph]

This is what we were saying about Roco

You don't think in the last summer we could've flipped him for nothing to a team with cap space? I bet we could've.

Now if your talking about keeping Grant after next summer into the season I don't see why it matters if his salary is on the cap. All the free agents will be gone at that point. I'd rather have Grant than a TPE.

Yeah I still think Roco was worth more than a TPE exception this month.

 

[Strenuus]

and he's expecting a 4 yr, 112 mil extension this summer. Multiple sources have reported this, and it's so specific that you just have to believe it. We just literally dumped all our contracts to add supposed cap flexibility. Giving Grant that kinda contract would put us right back where we were before, with a less talented roster.

This is what my thought process is.

 

[blazerkor]

If you're getting behind Dame and saying we're rebuilding around him then there is no place for Ant because even though Ant is fractionally a better fit with Dame than CJ was he's still a terrible fit. It's mind boggling to me that after the last six seasons so many in here are behind this idea that Dame and Ant are going to be great together.

So, Ant for CoJo and Bledsoe for Grant. If that's not good enough for Detroit they can go fuck themselves but we get a really good backup for Dame for next season, a second or third option in Grant and will likely keep the tank going... so hopefully we can get a couple of picks in the early to mid lottery.

We would still have like 35M in cap space if we renounced Nurk and Hart... at the same time we could use Nurk and let's just say one of those picks in a three way sign and trade with the Nets and Sixers that sent Nurk, the pick and a big TPE to the Nets, sent Harden to the Sixers and sent Simmons to us.

We would then have the MLE to get another meaningful contributor but more importantly we could use the TPE and the lotto pick that we didn't send to the Nets. That might be enough for the Pacers to send us Turner or the Hawks to send us Bogdanovic. Dame, Nas, Simmons, Grant, Turner or Dame, Bogdan, Nas, Grant, Simmons are both contending starting lineups with the MLE as a sixth man and hope that GB3, Keon and/or NAW pop to make our bench even better plus we have the defense and whatever the fuck else Winslow brings and CoJo as a solid backup PG.

 

[craigehlo]

That's fine. His value will just drop further the less control a team has over his current deal.

 

[illmatic99]

 

[BigGameDamian]

 

[wizenheimer]

I think Smart would be a great target for our trade exemption and some draft compensation this summer. Not sure what his value is, but if Boston flames out again they will surely want to try something new, and a trade exemption would allow them to pursue whoever they want.

unless it's a perennial all-star under 30, I do not want the Blazers to spend any valuable assets on another damn guard; and that TPE is a valuable asset

 

[wizenheimer]

who the fuck is that? And why should I care about his speculation?

 

[Scalma]

Offseason makes more sense because he’d probably hurt the tank. But I ain’t giving up two firsts for him fuck that (and I like him!)

 

[PtldPlatypus]

and that TPE is a valuable asset

 

[Ripcity4life77]

Here is the question DO we want Grant right now anyways he might WIN the Blazers a few games hurting the lotto chance odds

Better case is this on Draft day -- Blazers Trade a player ( maybe ) , Bledsoe's Contract and IF the Pels make the playoffs throw in that 1st cause by then it would be a late 1st IF that and maybe a 2nd for Grant

Maybe Bledsoe's contract cannot be traded at that time not sure but that would make more sense but again a gamble.

 

[HailBlazers]

What happened to our assets? Oh that's right we gifted them to the Clips.

 

[blazerkor]

Whoever the fuck this guy is he better be wrong and if I could down vote you for posting this I would. (Not actually mad, carry on)

 

[boredinsalem]

unless it's a perennial all-star under 30, I do not want the Blazers to spend any valuable assets on another damn guard; and that TPE is a valuable asset

Agreed, I was throwing that out there under the assumption that we had already acquired a 3/4 (e.g., Grant).

 

[blazerfan11]

I am not too concerned with the type of injuries Little has had. No major knee or foot problems.
I value Nas more than Grant.

I am more concerned with Grant's extension demands.
But other than that I would love to have him. If Roco can play PF then Grant can as well. Basically the same size. (Grant slightly longer)

It’s not the type of injuries. It’s the frequency. Have you noticed that?

 

[GrandpaBlaze]

Saw something saying the Pistons want 2 firsts for Grant. Yeah, No. Absolutely No.

Unless, of course, they are saying they'll give someone two firsts to take him....

 

[SharpesTriumph]

Here is the question DO we want Grant right now anyways he might WIN the Blazers a few games hurting the lotto chance odds

Better case is this on Draft day -- Blazers Trade a player ( maybe ) , Bledsoe's Contract and IF the Pels make the playoffs throw in that 1st cause by then it would be a late 1st IF that and maybe a 2nd for Grant

Maybe Bledsoe's contract cannot be traded at that time not sure but that would make more sense but again a gamble.

Grant hasn't won a game since the middle of November and they are 4-25 with him. We might want to trade for Grant in order to tank.