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1. Why does Lawrence continually play horrible combinations of players? Where is Swift? He can hit a jumper, rebounds, and can Play Defense!

2. Swift and Williams together to me is a great combination of athleticism and defensive ability.

3. Josh Boone...where to begin! I can't believe this guy starts..he is a bench player at best...reminds me of the Jason Collins saga all over again..(a role player that starts because our coach is dumb) he is slow and has bad hands...and is absolutely clueless on defense....oh and when he does get fouled he air balls foul shots! The only reason he has decent numbers is because are team isn't that good!

4. Back to the coach, our strategy is horrendous...we run the same exact play on offense every single time...how predictable

SO FRUSTRATING!
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 20 2008, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>1. Why does Lawrence continually play horrible combinations of players? Where is Swift? He can hit a jumper, rebounds, and can Play Defense!

2. Swift and Williams together to me is a great combination of athleticism and defensive ability.

3. Josh Boone...where to begin! I can't believe this guy starts..he is a bench player at best...reminds me of the Jason Collins saga all over again..(a role player that starts because our coach is dumb) he is slow and has bad hands...and is absolutely clueless on defense....oh and when he does get fouled he air balls foul shots! The only reason he has decent numbers is because are team isn't that good!

4. Back to the coach, our strategy is horrendous...we run the same exact play on offense every single time...how predictable

SO FRUSTRATING!
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1) Swift is out with a stomach virus.
2) Swat has 5 fouls
3) Josh Boone may be off offensively but he still has 6 pts and 15 rebounds...those are starter numbers in this league...
4) our PG is a brand new starter, we have a brand new rotation...everything is scaled back.
 
Josh Boone is one of our best pick setters and that is the offense we a running. He is defensively doing a great job.

No complaints.
 
Anyone else thought of Barkley saying "turrible" when they read the thread title?
 
I wasn't even talking about this game necessarily...but that's ok, lets talk about it...Boone has 15 rebounds...wow! Because he plays the whole game..is he doing anything that any other tall person with some muscle couldn't do? Seriously? Do you watch him play defense? People go right around him...he got beat on a back door screen that could have lost us the game in regulation tonight...he starts running down on offense when the shot is fired like VC...I mean VC fine..but Josh Boone? What is he going to do get the ball on the break and drive? We need to trade him and Boki and Mags for Miller and get some real shooting ability...we have enough bigs here!
 
Hey giantcuseman, welcome to S2! PM me if you have any questions about the site.

Now I gotta say I disagree with you. Jloc pretty much covered my points thoroughly.
 
A lot of people are gonna disagree. Boone has been one of our most consistent players ever since we've started him.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 20 2008, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey giantcuseman, welcome to S2! PM me if you have any questions about the site.

Now I gotta say I disagree with you. Jloc pretty much covered my points thoroughly.</div>


thanks! I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer, I'm just simply pointing out most athletes in the NBA with Boone's height could set screens and rebound...its the rebounds in critical times..defensive position..etc that I hate...but hey you could also blame that on coaching..

on a side note Marcus Williams is looking like the real deal tonight...now whats going to happen with Harris? Marcus could be a starter with time
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 20 2008, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey giantcuseman, welcome to S2! PM me if you have any questions about the site.

Now I gotta say I disagree with you. Jloc pretty much covered my points thoroughly.</div>
Thank You Jigga...I though I covered all bases...
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 20 2008, 10:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (GMJigga @ Feb 20 2008, 10:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Hey giantcuseman, welcome to S2! PM me if you have any questions about the site.

Now I gotta say I disagree with you. Jloc pretty much covered my points thoroughly.</div>


thanks! I'm not trying to be a Debbie Downer, I'm just simply pointing out most athletes in the NBA with Boone's height could set screens and rebound...its the rebounds in critical times..defensive position..etc that I hate...but hey you could also blame that on coaching..

on a side note Marcus Williams is looking like the real deal tonight...now whats going to happen with Harris? Marcus could be a starter with time
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Welcome giantcuseman! Glad to see another fan of Syracuse! Love the username, btw.

I gotta say, Josh Boone is probably our best big man right now.
He's the best rebounder, the best post defender, a good shotblocker, the most knowledgable big man, and he's got some chemistry with the other guys. And that's the reason why he's starting over Swift and Williams (plus the fact that Swift is new, and Sean's a rookie).

And I'm sure with time, he'll learn the things that you've mentioned he has deficiencies in - remember, he's still a young player. Can't say I blame Frank for starting him.
 
I'll never understand these "let's bitch about the coach after a win" posts.

Especially when it's somebody who obviously didn't watch the game (Where's Swift???? He's the bestest! Frank is dum. UUUUuuHHHhhhh.)
 
Good point about Boone not being a good rebounder and that being Frank's fault.

I learn so much on this board.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 20 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wasn't even talking about this game necessarily...but that's ok, lets talk about it...Boone has 15 rebounds...wow! Because he plays the whole game..is he doing anything that any other tall person with some muscle couldn't do? Seriously? Do you watch him play defense? People go right around him...he got beat on a back door screen that could have lost us the game in regulation tonight...he starts running down on offense when the shot is fired like VC...I mean VC fine..but Josh Boone? What is he going to do get the ball on the break and drive? We need to trade him and Boki and Mags for Miller and get some real shooting ability...we have enough bigs here!</div>

Holy crap! There's gonna be some fireworks now!
 
I kinda wish that Byron Scott was back with the Nets, because at that time I still felt that it wasn't his fault the team was doing bad. And now seeing what kidd did in basically forcing the trade it shows me that it wasn't Scotts fault.

I say that i wish byron was here because he would know what to do with the talent that we have now. After last season and so far with this season I have not like any of his choices in starts and substitutions.

Boone is a good call as a starter. He is consistant and probably would play well with MWillaims because they played at UCONN together.

We just need to get Swift in the rotation and play Hassell alittle bit more because it looks like there is some young talent on this team that could flourish with the right amount of playing time and competition.

There is almost competition at every position except for SF and SG those belonging to RJ and VC. But for the other positions those spots are open.

My line up would look like this for now:

PG Harris\MWillaims
SG VC\Hassell
SF RG\Boki
PF Swift\SWillaims
C Kristic\Boone\Diop
 
RACIST
you love the athletic black players but hate on the cerebral white players and coach
 
This guy is out of his mind.

15 Boards, no one else has done that so far with the nets.

Hate to break to you, but JB is the best big the nets have right now.

As others have allready said to you, i will agree and say you are home, but your light's are not on.


Also this poster lost any crediatbilty ( not that he/she ever had any) when they called JB Slow. I guess this one lives on fantsy Island, as he knows swift will never start, so he has to make false claims on the players in front of him.

But you want to know something, WTF Cares what you say? JB anit going to be moved from the starters job. You claim that anit big can get 15 Boards, when was the last time your boy Swift ever did? If I have to hate Swift cause of you, i will really hate you.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 20 2008, 10:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>I wasn't even talking about this game necessarily...but that's ok, lets talk about it...Boone has 15 rebounds...wow! Because he plays the whole game..is he doing anything that any other tall person with some muscle couldn't do? Seriously? Do you watch him play defense? People go right around him...he got beat on a back door screen that could have lost us the game in regulation tonight...he starts running down on offense when the shot is fired like VC...I mean VC fine..but Josh Boone? What is he going to do get the ball on the break and drive? We need to trade him and Boki and Mags for Miller and get some real shooting ability...we have enough bigs here!</div>


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Boone still has some improvement to do. For instance, too often he loses his man on defense and allows an easy dunk. However, he is just a kid who missed half of his rookie season (and played little when healthy). For someone with his limited experience, his future looks bright, so long as he continues to work on his weaknesses. It's too early to judge him, other than to recognize his obvious contributions and growth.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dumpy @ Feb 21 2008, 08:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Boone still has some improvement to do. For instance, too often he loses his man on defense and allows an easy dunk. However, he is just a kid who missed half of his rookie season (and played little when healthy). For someone with his limited experience, his future looks bright, so long as he continues to work on his weaknesses. It's too early to judge him, other than to recognize his obvious contributions and growth.</div>

I wonder why he goes for layups at times instead of just putting it down. And hopefully w/ time he gets more comfortable w/ the ball.

-Petey
 
I'd absolutely love Josh Boone if he could just make some free throws. He makes me RAGE since he's one of our few players that gets to the line, but it doesn't seem to matter much since he bricks so much from there.

Also, he does tend to lose his man a lot, so I advocate that he play alongside SWAT who is an awesome help defender.
 
Wow is what I have to say to some of you! Your responses seem like you are preparing to take an analyst job at TNT. This is how I see it, you don't have to hate me for it, just agree or disagree, the negative comments directed towards me personally are not needed. Josh Boone is a decent big man who will get you 10 rebounds most games.

And some of you fools may be happy with that, but if you actually watch the game he allows at least 10 easy points a game. He is also out of position ALL THE TIME. How about this, do me a favor before you defend your nets savior, next game, actually focus on Josh Boone for about 5 minutes. And I'm not talking about 2 minutes into the game when everyone is settling in, watch in the middle of the second or 3rd quarters, then come back and analyze his positioning and hustle.

If you just look at numbers, there is no point arguing with me, as you are wrong. Jason Kidd almost had a triple double again last night, as he has almost every night here...those are amazing numbers too, but we lost the majority of the games with him this year even with "good numbers"...so please stop looking at numbers, its about winning. And to touch up on Frank, if any of you can defend him after the slow downfall of the NETS after he has taken over, you are nuts.

Do you notice a trend of getting progressively worse each year, even though the talent levels remained relatively even for the past 6 years? We lost kittles harris martin van horn and Todd Todd MacCulloch And picked up Vince Carter, a much better RJ (than during championship years), Clif, Rodney Rogers, Mikki Moore, Aaron Williams, Eric Williams, Zoran , Marc Jackson (who was averaging 12 pts a game when we got him) among a few others. Now these names aren't mind boggling, but they all had talent at their respective positions, and with the right coaching job with our starters should have brought us to the promise land. That window of opportunity is over for now, and its disappointing. I wouldn't be surprised to see a coaching change this off season is what I'm trying to get at, if the Nets can trade Kidd, they can certainly fire Lawrence Frank.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 21 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Wow is what I have to say to some of you! Your responses seem like you are preparing to take an analyst job at TNT. This is how I see it, you don't have to hate me for it, just agree or disagree, the negative comments directed towards me personally are not needed. Josh Boone is a decent big man who will get you 10 rebounds most games.

And some of you fools may be happy with that, but if you actually watch the game he allows at least 10 easy points a game. He is also out of position ALL THE TIME. How about this, do me a favor before you defend your nets savior, next game, actually focus on Josh Boone for about 5 minutes. And I'm not talking about 2 minutes into the game when everyone is settling in, watch in the middle of the second or 3rd quarters, then come back and analyze his positioning and hustle.

If you just look at numbers, there is no point arguing with me, as you are wrong. Jason Kidd almost had a triple double again last night, as he has almost every night here...those are amazing numbers too, but we lost the majority of the games with him this year even with "good numbers"...so please stop looking at numbers, its about winning. And to touch up on Frank, if any of you can defend him after the slow downfall of the NETS after he has taken over, you are nuts.

Do you notice a trend of getting progressively worse each year, even though the talent levels remained relatively even for the past 6 years? We lost kittles harris martin van horn and Todd Todd MacCulloch And picked up Vince Carter, a much better RJ (than during championship years), Clif, Rodney Rogers, Mikki Moore, Aaron Williams, Eric Williams, Zoran , Marc Jackson (who was averaging 12 pts a game when we got him) among a few others. Now these names aren't mind boggling, but they all had talent at their respective positions, and with the right coaching job with our starters should have brought us to the promise land. That window of opportunity is over for now, and its disappointing. I wouldn't be surprised to see a coaching change this off season is what I'm trying to get at, if the Nets can trade Kidd, they can certainly fire Lawrence Frank.</div>
Maybe if your posts weren't so beligerent people wouldn't direct negative posts at you?
 
You are a Swift lover, and Swift is in back of Boone what else needs to be said about you?

Agian he is the best big on this roster, and that means yes he is better than your boy Swift sorry but it's true.

As far as Kidd allmost getting a triple double last night what #'s are you looking at?
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 21 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are a Swift lover, and Swift is in back of Boone what else needs to be said about you?

Agian he is the best big on this roster, and that means yes he is better than your boy Swift sorry but it's true.

As far as Kidd allmost getting a triple double last night what #'s are you looking at?</div>

Boone is only keeping that designation warm because Krstic hasn't fully rebounded from surgery yet.

-Petey
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Petey @ Feb 21 2008, 10:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Josh_Boone @ Feb 21 2008, 10:56 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>You are a Swift lover, and Swift is in back of Boone what else needs to be said about you?

Agian he is the best big on this roster, and that means yes he is better than your boy Swift sorry but it's true.

As far as Kidd allmost getting a triple double last night what #'s are you looking at?</div>

Boone is only keeping that designation warm because Krstic hasn't fully rebounded from surgery yet.

-Petey
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Argh Pety, right now Boone is the best on this roster. When Kristic is fully 100% that is diffrent then we got Kristic and Boone.
 
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (giantcuseman @ Feb 21 2008, 10:50 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}></div><div class='quotemain'>Do you notice a trend of getting progressively worse each year, even though the talent levels remained relatively even for the past 6 years? We lost kittles harris martin van horn and Todd Todd MacCulloch And picked up Vince Carter, a much better RJ (than during championship years), Clif, Rodney Rogers, Mikki Moore, Aaron Williams, Eric Williams, Zoran , Marc Jackson (who was averaging 12 pts a game when we got him) among a few others. Now these names aren't mind boggling, but they all had talent at their respective positions, and with the right coaching job with our starters should have brought us to the promise land.</div>

Rodney Rogers, Marc Jackson, Eric Williams, Zoran?!

Aaron Williams was picked up after the "championship years"?

I've also got some news for you, Vince and RJ leave their men wide open at least four times as frequently as Boone does.

I think the reason us "fools" criticized your posts is that you don't know what you are talking about (and probably have some sort of agenda), and a sharp forum like this one can sniff that out in two seconds.
 
To everyone who thinks I am a "SWIFT LOVER" - this is not true! I think Swift is better than Boone at this stage in their NBA careers. It's not that Swift is this old man who can't play, he is only 28! With that being said, there are a ton of players better than both Boone and Swift combined, we all know that. I'm hoping we making a deal for Nene or Miller because we obviously have to many big men right now, with Frank you know it's going to be a different player sitting out every night, he can't possibly rotate all these guys in game in and game out. Even with the addition of Nene, we will have to trade a few bigs away, so it works out nicely, and if that costs Swift so be it! (I don't "love him" haha so please stop with that) I just want the Nets to win like the rest of you, were on the same team here...And to look at Kidd's numbers from yesterday, Jason had 8 pts 3 Steals 6 Rebounds and 5 Assists while getting acquainted with a new system. Would you not take that from your starting point guard? I would. And it is definitely possible that Dallas misses the playoffs this year, weirder things have happened in sports...
 
Ok you can try and deny that you dont like Swift, but we know you do. Swift is not the better player. When was the last time Swift ever had 15 Boards in a game?

You think we should add more bigs and you say we have too many ( Lonney tune)


As far as Kidd goes, those #'s are no where near a triple double.

Go back to your own land.
 
Rodney Rogers, Marc Jackson, Eric Williams, Zoran?!

Aaron Williams was picked up after the "championship years"?

I've also got some news for you, Vince and RJ leave their men wide open at least four times as frequently as Boone does.

I think the reason us "fools" criticized your posts is that you don't know what you are talking about (and probably have some sort of agenda), and a sharp forum like this one can sniff that out in two seconds.
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Ghoti, I have no agenda, I know Aaron Williams was also on the championship teams, but he was also on the roster the following year for some time before we traded for Carter. Its a moot point, those years are long gone, and I do know what I'm talking about in my opinion alone. If everyone knew what they were talking about, we could all be GM's. A forum is used to express an opinion, that can be controversial, and spur up debate, which is simply what I've done. I wanted to take an issue and throw it out to fellow nets fans. Do you think Kerr or Thorn or Cuban know exactly how every decision they make is going to play out? Life is about taking chances, and maybe getting Shaq will bring a NBA title, or maybe Kidd will bring the title to Dallas, or maybe Harris will turn into the next big thing? Who knows? Maybe I'm completely wrong on Boone and he will turn into a great player. It could happen, but from my gut, I don't think it will.
 
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